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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 12, 2013 8:12:02 GMT -6
I don't really have any reference for this...never used a 2264/54...Any hints on what it sounds like? Super grabby? Any comparisons?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Aug 12, 2013 8:38:11 GMT -6
Never used one, but I want a few. Ha. Everything I've read is positive.
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Post by lolo on Aug 12, 2013 8:39:02 GMT -6
Heard people raving about this bad boy for quite some time
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 12, 2013 8:44:14 GMT -6
This might be one for me to take a swing at...I love the Sta-Level for intimate stuff, but at times, it could be a little too colored and gooey for dense mixes. I've been reading up on the 10DC and people have mentioned it can be grabby or gluey...Certainly more in my price range than a RI176 right now.
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 21, 2013 16:35:41 GMT -6
Just picked this up for demo. I'll report back.
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Post by sozocaps on Aug 21, 2013 17:03:44 GMT -6
swwweeet!
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Post by wiz on Aug 21, 2013 17:48:23 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 21, 2013 18:52:31 GMT -6
Slipping the kid some benadryl...need to check this thing out...  |
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Post by joey808 on Aug 21, 2013 19:33:02 GMT -6
Lol! Please report!
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Post by lolo on Aug 21, 2013 21:32:48 GMT -6
 Ive heard people say the problem with these are, you would end up buying a pair |
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Post by matt on Aug 21, 2013 22:14:48 GMT -6
Ive heard people say the problem with these are, you would end up buying a pair Yep, budget for two! |
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 21, 2013 22:44:20 GMT -6
So, yeah...with my limited amount of time with it (2hours) - it's really good. It can compress the shit out of shit without it sounding like shit. And I didn't even delve into the limiter more than 5 minutes. The compressor is really versatile...it can be super grabby without sounding bad or pinchy - and it has a nice, thick sound to it. I have to return it tomorrow, so I really only got to experiment on vox for a couple of hours. I really feel like I found a sweet spot with a 4:1 ratio, Attack at slowest (80), Release/Recovery at fastest (100)...It's wouldn't say it's totally transparent compression, but if you want a vocal up front and to sit in the mix...this might be your guy. I could see this thing being fantastic on a number of different instruments - wish I had time to run acoustics through it. And drums...I would LOVE to have this for mixing drums...or on the drum bus. Fantastic piece. On a side note - is it just me - or have other people had issues with BAE products? I didn't attempt it for long, but it seems like something was funky with the Limiter side of the unit. Some weird distortion - like crapping out distortion (not normal) even at very low threshold - only on the limiter side. On top of that, I've been having issues with my Brent Averill 6 space rack unit. Occasionally, it seem to underpower the Heritage and gradually, the Heritage loses sound quality and definition. It's not totally evident right away, but then when I unload everything except the Heritage, it sounds fantastic again. Admittedly, it's Brent Averill and not BAE, but they've basically admitted that it's an older power supply and I should probably buy the new one from them for $200...  Also, years ago, I bought a 1073 19" rack that showed up DOA too...I'm sure problems happen...but that seems like a lot. |
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Post by unit7 on Aug 22, 2013 5:37:55 GMT -6
Hi all you outlaws and pariahs! :-D This is my first post here. Seems nice! I have a pair of 10DCs. Use them mainly on kick/snare. Prefer Chandler Zener for drum paralel. Just above the 10DCs I have a pair of Chandler Germ comps and lately I've been thinking about trading them in for another pair of 10DCs. I'm not the impulsive type so that will have to wait until I'd be very sure, but anyway that perhaps tells how much I like them. Really classy and musical units.
Re distortion, I'm not 100% sure (I'm much more musician than tech...) but I believe the makeup gain, in addition to making up gain, also controls the level of dist/saturation from the o/p xformer, you know... if you crank it a little. And I think I remember when experimenting/testing when I just got them, doing more extreme compressing, the makeup gain control gets a bit more dist/saturation sensitive, I guess because of the transients/dist created by the comp. Anyone, please correct me if I'm wrong. I often am...
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 22, 2013 6:21:36 GMT -6
Interesting...good to know, Paul! Glad you're here!
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Post by lolo on Aug 22, 2013 7:10:25 GMT -6
Keeper John?
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 22, 2013 7:14:14 GMT -6
I don't know...yet...It's pretty dang good. Wish I could live with it for a while, but they want it back today. It would certainly be more useful than a sta - faster attack and wider variety...
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 22, 2013 8:28:05 GMT -6
I had almost convinced myself to get it...then I re-sang some vox that I did with the Sta-Level. It ain't the Sta. The 10dc adds that vintage mid-forward sound - a thickness - and it does handle vocals really well. In fact, for a pop vocal in a dense mix, I could see using it a ton. It can really grab a vocal and put it in place...But for what I do - more acoustic driven and less dense tracks - the Sta just has this invisibility to the compression that can't be beaten. It's so pillowy - you just don't hear it working - and it adds a nicer tone in my opinion. You live and you learn. (Even if it takes 3 times)...
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Post by matt on Aug 22, 2013 8:39:14 GMT -6
I had almost convinced myself to get it...then I re-sang some vox that I did with the Sta-Level. It ain't the Sta. The 10dc adds that vintage mid-forward sound - a thickness - and it does handle vocals really well. In fact, for a pop vocal in a dense mix, I could see using it a ton. It can really grab a vocal and put it in place...But for what I do - more acoustic driven and less dense tracks - the Sta just has this invisibility to the compression that can't be beaten. It's so pillowy - you just don't hear it working - and it adds a nicer tone in my opinion. You live and you learn. (Even if it takes 3 times)... I recommend that you start a sub-forum: Retro Users Anonymous |
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Post by unit7 on Aug 22, 2013 10:23:20 GMT -6
I had almost convinced myself to get it...then I re-sang some vox that I did with the Sta-Level. It ain't the Sta. The 10dc adds that vintage mid-forward sound - a thickness - and it does handle vocals really well. In fact, for a pop vocal in a dense mix, I could see using it a ton. It can really grab a vocal and put it in place...But for what I do - more acoustic driven and less dense tracks - the Sta just has this invisibility to the compression that can't be beaten. It's so pillowy - you just don't hear it working - and it adds a nicer tone in my opinion. You live and you learn. (Even if it takes 3 times)... Totally my taste too. For any vocal recording/mix, except a really aggressive approach I'd use the STA over the 10DC. Set to fastest attack/release it's actually not that slow... |
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Post by wiz on Aug 22, 2013 15:11:37 GMT -6
John
Which STA are you referring to?
Can you post a link please?
Cheers
Wiz
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 22, 2013 15:21:53 GMT -6
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Post by wiz on Aug 22, 2013 16:49:34 GMT -6
I thought there were a few versions around, and didnt know which one you were refering to.. thanks
cheers
Wiz
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Post by wiz on Aug 22, 2013 16:55:17 GMT -6
I just looked at the price here in Oz....
errrr.... just keep walking Wiz
8)
cheers
Wiz
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Post by levon on Aug 26, 2013 7:51:28 GMT -6
Ive heard people say the problem with these are, you would end up buying a pair Yep, budget for two! I wish. I'm still trying to budget for a second BAE 1028... |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 29, 2014 9:49:44 GMT -6
Any more takes on this guy? I've got a lead on a pair and I'm pretty interested in them. People seem to like them on drums. Are they good on other stuff too? 2 buss? Acoustics? More of a one trick pony?
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Ive heard people say the problem with these are, you would end up buying a pair
Also, years ago, I bought a 1073 19" rack that showed up DOA too...I'm sure problems happen...but that seems like a lot. 
