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Post by mrholmes on Nov 18, 2014 8:58:45 GMT -6
Yes, on the high end - mastering is an art, but for the common musician - a good highly automated solution could be the ticket. In this case; whats the difference form using presets in any DAW? Sometimes I help my guitar students bands to get a better demo. To my ears those preset masterings gain nothing. It starts there that most young folks do not have a proper monitoring situation. And with this most often the frequency picture is not so great. Most often we even remix it at my place because there is no way to solve it in mastering without getting something different. But if the mix is OK some EQ and a tat of real tube or transformer harmonics can produce a smile on the face of the student. To me mastering should be just icing on the cake and to have a independent person checking the mixes. just my 2 cents.
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Post by scumbum on Feb 7, 2016 12:19:01 GMT -6
Still haven't tried Landr ,
Has anyone else given it a try ?
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 7, 2016 15:50:56 GMT -6
listen to their samples, sounds of ass to me...
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Post by scumbum on Feb 7, 2016 17:34:51 GMT -6
listen to their samples, sounds of ass to me... Sounds of ASS........interesting.....so it makes your song sound like a bunch of farts.....it probably adds too much Low End Rumble to the SUB Freqs , that will make things sound of ASS ........or farts , Well that doesn't sound too good for Landr's reputation , unless your into that sort of thing .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 17:43:40 GMT -6
Made the test with an own sample at Landr. The result was quite some compression and more loudness and i couldn't even say if there was EQ on this. Subtle? No, just clean compression in this case. Maybe the software was clueless, what else to do. I threw another genre demo at it, where i was pretty proud of the mix and that i considered needing not much mastering at all, it was very good sounding and already normalized. The software managed to distort around the kick very badly in some parts while it compressed the shit out of it. Sorry, completely unusable in this case and i would be really upset if i would ever get such a result back from an ME. Getting genre and type of music by an algorithm, uhm, yes, sure. Naaah. Wouldn't cash out forty bucks for a month of this. YMMV.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 18:33:42 GMT -6
The good thing is: You can upload and listen to the result sample without cost. If you really like it, you maybe need a quick master of a demo and don't have any time to fiddle around with this by yourself you can use it, sure. But i really encourage everyone to test it on your own stuff and carefully listen to the result. Personally wasn't impressed at all with my samples, because right in the second sample i uploaded, the result was absolutely unacceptable.
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Post by rocinante on Feb 7, 2016 19:01:30 GMT -6
Yes, on the high end - mastering is an art, but for the common musician - a good highly automated solution could be the ticket. I didn't mean to say that mastering is 'only' for the high end - I'm acknowledging that the high-end of mastering is an art. Giving it more thought, and taking the idea to its logical conclusion, I'd say it is implied that ALL mastering requires that at least some artistic decisions be made. In the amateur circles I fly in, very few ever have their work professionally mastered. Most probably just slap a limiter on the thing and turn the dial to taste - or use a preset as you mentioned. When I try doing much more, I feel like I'm making things worse - or I question that I'm doing anything of value, so most of the time I do my best to make the recording as good as possible going in and limit to taste. If something is off-color, rather than put an EQ on the buss, I'm more tempted to go back into the mix and find an offending track and tweak the crap out of it first, which just shows you guys how much of a hack I am. I'm only mildly ashamed to admit this because I feel like I'm in the majority. Clearly many if not most that post here are professional musicians/engineers, and your standards are much higher - and so it is that I say 'high-end.' You guys are the 1%. Thanks man, I probably should just be lurking and not posting because I'm sure I'm just putting my foot in my mouth half the time, but I'm here to learn with the intent of making my own recordings better. I just hope I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong because I can be one stubborn old fart. There are already a few people who contribute to these threads that live somewhat near me that have reached out, and I am looking forward to getting my new studio in order and ..well, doing more things right. I actually think you are dead on in your points. Off the top of my head I can think of a half dozen bands that as soon as i gave them a rough mix they put it online. Ugg i cringed. Nevermind the dozen or so who never got their cds mastered because they couldn't afford it. Including mine! Trying to tour while paying the rent and trying to feed a 7-9 piece band aint easy. I regretted it. But hell its punk.
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