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Post by mcirish on Sept 10, 2024 9:03:45 GMT -6
I have everthing Pulsar has put out. Unfortunately, I really only use the Binson Echorec and the 1178. I use both of those often but the rest I just never warmed up to enough. I bought the 8200, thinking it would replace the Softube Chandler EQ, but it didn't. Hard to get excited about a new EQ at this point. I generally just grab Crave EQ or Kirchoff. Fast workflow and they sound fine. I've got the Softube A-Range EQ. I used to use it a bit but then thought.... "why?" What does it do that I can't do with any other EQ? I think it's going to be harder for developers to sell the same old thing over and over. I have so many EQ's and yet I only use a handful.
Who knows.... maybe I will still buy it just to support them.
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Post by Oneiro on Sept 10, 2024 11:12:00 GMT -6
They have an in-house sound that makes all their EQs sound the same. Some kind of glow. It's not a bad sound but I don't think the 8200 and the Massive sound anything like their real life counterparts, both of which I've used for years. And I doubt this resembles an A Range (which I've never used). I'm loathe to praise UAD but they definitely got closer on the Manley.
I'd actually like to see them turn their direction towards building problem solvers, not clone. I liked the de-esser in the 8200.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 10, 2024 13:01:52 GMT -6
They have an in-house sound that makes all their EQs sound the same. Some kind of glow. It's not a bad sound but I don't think the 8200 and the Massive sound anything like their real life counterparts, both of which I've used for years. And I doubt this resembles an A Range (which I've never used). I'm loathe to praise UAD but they definitely got closer on the Manley. I'd actually like to see them turn their direction towards building problem solvers, not clone. I liked the de-esser in the 8200. No idea who’s closer to the HW…but knowing how great the 78 is, I would assume the others are close too. I’ve found massive to be pretty hardware like. Like - you can push it and it never sounds bad. But it’s not very versatile at all. Only huge swaths. The VariMu…I just can’t really tell honestly. When I used the UAD more, I was very familiar with it. So this one is different. Reacts differently a bit. But it seems to be fine…probably need to try it more. Maybe some golden ears can tell the differences in eq’s, but I honestly can’t really. Unless it added a bunch of distortion. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 10, 2024 13:03:02 GMT -6
Was playing around with the UAD Helios…and I just love the eq points for vocals on that thing. I always had great luck with the HW EQ. Makes me think about grabbing one of the 500 series eqs
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 10, 2024 13:04:02 GMT -6
Or just use the Helios on the way in with the Apollo. I mean - NO ONE would ever know…but it sure is sexier having that hw.
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Post by moeses on Sept 10, 2024 13:19:41 GMT -6
The only eq that's ever made me smile was the kazrog true 252
That thing is just a pleasure to work with
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Post by Mister Chase on Sept 10, 2024 13:46:47 GMT -6
The only eq that's ever made me smile was the kazrog true 252 That thing is just a pleasure to work with I need to get that one back out. I enjoy True iron and true dynamics. |
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Post by Mister Chase on Sept 10, 2024 13:47:12 GMT -6
Or just use the Helios on the way in with the Apollo. I mean - NO ONE would ever know…but it sure is sexier having that hw. The one IAA makes would be pretty sweet I think. |
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Post by jaba on Sept 10, 2024 14:05:11 GMT -6
The only eq that's ever made me smile was the kazrog true 252 That thing is just a pleasure to work with Intrigued. I love a simple plug/piece of gear that does something really well. Not like I need another EQ though.... |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 10, 2024 15:20:51 GMT -6
The only eq that's ever made me smile was the kazrog true 252 That thing is just a pleasure to work with Intrigued. I love a simple plug/piece of gear that does something really well. Not like I need another EQ though.... Love to hear those. I was just thinking about the eq, but a pre along with it is even better. |
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Post by moeses on Sept 10, 2024 17:04:19 GMT -6
The only eq that's ever made me smile was the kazrog true 252 That thing is just a pleasure to work with Intrigued. I love a simple plug/piece of gear that does something really well. Not like I need another EQ though.... I think it's $20 right now Super simple, hard to make sound bad That and audiothing's tilt are probably my most used plugins |
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Post by geoff738 on Sept 10, 2024 17:22:38 GMT -6
What is the Kazrog based on? Langevin maybe?
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by moeses on Sept 10, 2024 17:32:14 GMT -6
Admittedly I fumble eq'ing more often than not, which is probably the reason I like the kazrog so much
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Post by geoff738 on Sept 10, 2024 17:42:33 GMT -6
Ok yes it is based on a Langevin. It mentions motor city which suggests some era of Motown. But is it all that different from the UA plug. Which I like.
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by Mister Chase on Sept 10, 2024 18:59:27 GMT -6
Ok yes it is based on a Langevin. It mentions motor city which suggests some era of Motown. But is it all that different from the UA plug. Which I like. Cheers, Geoff I have them all. Will have to compare but it seems to me the UA has a more grainy vintagey sound while the 252 seems old school but maybe cleaner/sweeter. The UA has what I feel is their typical drive or something in the mids. |
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Post by drumsound on Sept 10, 2024 21:33:11 GMT -6
The only eq that's ever made me smile was the kazrog true 252 That thing is just a pleasure to work with $20 is tempting, but I'm trying to not fall in that particular trap. Ok yes it is based on a Langevin. It mentions motor city which suggests some era of Motown. But is it all that different from the UA plug. Which I like. Cheers, Geoff The UAD and the KIT are based on EQs made by Motown, but I believe before that there were Langevin EQs at Motown. Maybe @bobolhsson can fill us in. |
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Post by Oneiro on Sept 10, 2024 22:19:57 GMT -6
They have an in-house sound that makes all their EQs sound the same. Some kind of glow. It's not a bad sound but I don't think the 8200 and the Massive sound anything like their real life counterparts, both of which I've used for years. And I doubt this resembles an A Range (which I've never used). I'm loathe to praise UAD but they definitely got closer on the Manley. I'd actually like to see them turn their direction towards building problem solvers, not clone. I liked the de-esser in the 8200. No idea who’s closer to the HW…but knowing how great the 78 is, I would assume the others are close too. I’ve found massive to be pretty hardware like. Like - you can push it and it never sounds bad. But it’s not very versatile at all. Only huge swaths. The VariMu…I just can’t really tell honestly. When I used the UAD more, I was very familiar with it. So this one is different. Reacts differently a bit. But it seems to be fine…probably need to try it more. Maybe some golden ears can tell the differences in eq’s, but I honestly can’t really. Unless it added a bunch of distortion. The 1178 is very good, I agree.
But I hear some kind of sheen to the Manley stuff and EQs. Something about their approach. I mean, it's all cork sniffing ultimately, get on with it and all that. But then there probably wouldn't be a forum for this kind of discussion anyway.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 11, 2024 7:43:52 GMT -6
No idea who’s closer to the HW…but knowing how great the 78 is, I would assume the others are close too. I’ve found massive to be pretty hardware like. Like - you can push it and it never sounds bad. But it’s not very versatile at all. Only huge swaths. The VariMu…I just can’t really tell honestly. When I used the UAD more, I was very familiar with it. So this one is different. Reacts differently a bit. But it seems to be fine…probably need to try it more. Maybe some golden ears can tell the differences in eq’s, but I honestly can’t really. Unless it added a bunch of distortion. The 1178 is very good, I agree.
But I hear some kind of sheen to the Manley stuff and EQs. Something about their approach. I mean, it's all cork sniffing ultimately, get on with it and all that. But then there probably wouldn't be a forum for this kind of discussion anyway.
See I hear more sheen from the UAD Vari Mu than the Pulsar |
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Post by drumsound on Sept 11, 2024 7:52:09 GMT -6
The 1178 is very good, I agree.
But I hear some kind of sheen to the Manley stuff and EQs. Something about their approach. I mean, it's all cork sniffing ultimately, get on with it and all that. But then there probably wouldn't be a forum for this kind of discussion anyway.
See I hear more sheen from the UAD Vari Mu than the Pulsar The couple of times I was in mastering rooms with the Manley Vari Mu "sheen" was exactly the word I used for what it added to the mastering chain. For whatever that's worth |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 11, 2024 7:57:39 GMT -6
See I hear more sheen from the UAD Vari Mu than the Pulsar The couple of times I was in mastering rooms with the Manley Vari Mu "sheen" was exactly the word I used for what it added to the mastering chain. For whatever that's worth Yeah - that’s what I’ve heard about the HW. Never used the real thing. |
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Post by drumsound on Sept 11, 2024 11:02:04 GMT -6
The couple of times I was in mastering rooms with the Manley Vari Mu "sheen" was exactly the word I used for what it added to the mastering chain. For whatever that's worth Yeah - that’s what I’ve heard about the HW. Never used the real thing. I've only 'experienced' them with the settings the ME was using. They barely moved the needles, but when bypassing and engaging the difference was noticeable. |
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Post by vvvooojjj on Sept 12, 2024 3:17:15 GMT -6
I think this one has the Pulsar sheen that was mentioned earlier in this thread. It's brighter and a bit firmer than the Massive, only tested it super quickly though.
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Post by viciousbliss on Sept 12, 2024 4:13:50 GMT -6
The UAD Massive is nowhere in the same league as the hardware I tried on Access Analog. Neither is Magenta. The PQ plugin is though. This Harris-Doyle Natalus DSCEQ from PA is even better than the PQ for an eq with extra mojo that is still pretty clean. Both of those are pretty far ahead of the Softube Curvebender and all these old eqs. I also favor them over the MH Sontec by a good margin. Whoever has done PA's more recent eqs is quite talented. For cleaner eqs, Slick GE and VSE-4 are what I have liked the best so far. That new Kiive eq and Michaelangelo from Tone Projects were quite good too. Right now I'm only using these hardware-modeled eqs across whole mixes after I've used hardware or hardware emulations if I'm trying to master all ITB and the TDR special filters for the highs and lows.
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 12, 2024 5:57:11 GMT -6
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Post by the other mark williams on Sept 12, 2024 7:52:57 GMT -6
The UAD Massive is nowhere in the same league as the hardware I tried on Access Analog. Neither is Magenta. The PQ plugin is though. This Harris-Doyle Natalus DSCEQ from PA is even better than the PQ for an eq with extra mojo that is still pretty clean. Both of those are pretty far ahead of the Softube Curvebender and all these old eqs. I also favor them over the MH Sontec by a good margin. Whoever has done PA's more recent eqs is quite talented. For cleaner eqs, Slick GE and VSE-4 are what I have liked the best so far. That new Kiive eq and Michaelangelo from Tone Projects were quite good too. Right now I'm only using these hardware-modeled eqs across whole mixes after I've used hardware or hardware emulations if I'm trying to master all ITB and the TDR special filters for the highs and lows. Is the current SPL PQ plugin by Plugin Alliance a redone version? I remember trying the PQ plugin several years ago and I didn't care for it. Is the current version the same code? Or did they remodel it? |
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