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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 5, 2013 17:28:48 GMT -6
I'm thinking I might buy a cheapo hardware verb for peeps (like me) that would like some verb for listening while singing. I know I could just throw on a some verb and monitor through PT's...but lately I've been tracking at 88.2 and 128 buffers is pushing it...Plus, I'm used to using no latency tracking with Apogee Maestro...Any ideas?
Also - what would be the easiest way to hook it up? The dumb route could be just putting it between the analog outs of the symphony and my hearback system...or maybe there's some fancy schmancy ADAT way to do it...??
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Post by dandeurloo on Aug 5, 2013 17:31:02 GMT -6
LXP 1 or the BEHRINGER V-Verb.
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Post by gouge on Aug 5, 2013 17:33:27 GMT -6
yeah the v-verb is one capable little box. plus it's 96khz capable. if you feed it a digital and an analogue signal it will do 4 channel processing. love the wood room for drums by the way.... has a whole heep of whacky 4 channel delays etc plus has a built in comp.
sells for around $150 on the bay...... most likely you'll use it for mixing as well.
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 5, 2013 17:37:51 GMT -6
How would you guys set it up for just headphone cue? I assume it would have like a "wet/dry" kind of thing?
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Post by gouge on Aug 5, 2013 17:41:57 GMT -6
yep it is fully configurable 4 button controls with wet and dry.
not sure on the specifics of your setup?
i do it on the aux send bus of the console. aux7/8 are dedicated for the mix b fold back and that way i can also monitor the send.
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 5, 2013 17:46:05 GMT -6
I was told there would be no math...
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Post by gouge on Aug 5, 2013 18:10:50 GMT -6
e=mc2
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Post by Ward on Aug 5, 2013 19:51:44 GMT -6
Used Lexicon LXP1, LXP5 or LXP15.
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Post by LesC on Aug 6, 2013 8:26:06 GMT -6
Sometimes I'm really slow. Is there a way to subscribe to a thread without replying to it?
By the way, the Behringer Virtualizer 3D FX2000 might fill the bill, at around $130 brand spanking new.
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Post by svart on Aug 6, 2013 8:48:55 GMT -6
LXP series was mono with "pseudo-stereo" until the LXP15MK2. Still not "cheap".
If it's just for headphone cue, why not something like a Nanoverb or an old midiverb?
I never did like the V-verb. Call me crazy but it was always a little digital sounding. I much prefer the TC M-One and the Ibanez sdr-1000. Hell, I like the LXP15 over the V-verb.
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Post by matt on Aug 6, 2013 9:56:04 GMT -6
I'm thinking I might buy a cheapo hardware verb Lexicon MX200. So cheap, I own one and it's not worth the effort to sell. Maybe worth $100 used, tops.
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Post by ionian on Aug 6, 2013 14:39:51 GMT -6
For 500 series the Lee Jackson "Mr Springgy" is great. It's got the wet/dry knob right on the module. I think it's like $250 or $300.
I drop one into a Radial Cube with a Pre and a tracking comp. I keep it near the mic. Because the Radial can mult signals, I route the pre into the compressor and then the Mr. Springgy using the ability of the Radial to route from one slot to another with no cables.
I take the feed for the recording from the output of the tracking compressor. Because the Radial can mult, I can also take a feed direct from the pre for two tracks - one pre compressor as a safety take and one post compressor.
I take the output from the Mr. Springgy and put it into a small Behringer mixer for the vocalist. I also send a stereo feed for the track to the mixer. That way the artist can have a no latency headphone feed that lets them mix the track and their volume. Plus with the wet/dry right on the Mr. Springgy they have access to their wet/dry reverb mix. I also send a line from a small mic to the mixer to use as a talkback as well so they can adjust the volume of the talkback mic. I use a cheap radio shack mic that has an on/off switch so I can shut it off while they do takes.
This way the artist has complete control of their headphone mix. Radial cube is killer for this kind of setup.
Regards, Frank
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Post by LesC on Aug 6, 2013 14:49:14 GMT -6
Wow, Frank, that's a great idea! Give them control, and I wouldn't have to constantly ask if that's OK and readjust. Also, I work with a lot of young singer/songwriters that are too shy to say anything if the headphone mix has a problem. I was thinking of putting my Behringer headphone distributor in the singing room, but you've gone several steps further. This is a terrific solution, thank you!
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Post by ionian on Aug 6, 2013 15:44:51 GMT -6
No problem Les! I did it for the same reasons you did - so it wouldn't take forever to get everything right. This way they can do whatever they need to feel comfortable.
I even stick masking tape on everything and write what it is in layman's terms so they have it easy. On the Mr. Springgy, there's masking tape with the word "reverb". On the fader for the track it says, "Music", under the fader for their voice it says, "You", under the talkback fader it says, "Frank". I even go so far as to write, "Headphones" and put it under the headphone knob just to make it easy and fast for them so they don't have to scan the little mixer looking for the headphone volume.
Regards, Frank
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