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Post by jcoutu1 on Jul 30, 2014 9:34:21 GMT -6
Hey All, I came across this company, Mammoth Cave Audio, on Facebook at the beginning of the month. The site just went up and the stuff is now available for a Preorder Sale. No huge discounts, but a few bucks off is a few bucks off right (especially since the prices aren't astronomical to begin with)? The stuff looks pretty rad, seems pretty affordable, is made by one guy in his house, and the Wooly Mammoth's seem fairly unique. Could be cool stuff. The monitor controller looks good and can come in a rackmount version, which is pretty appealing to me. Ohh yeah, I have no affiliation with this company, don't know the guy running it, not getting any deals or anything, just came across it and thought it seemed pretty cool and the price is right.
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Post by svart on Jul 30, 2014 9:48:12 GMT -6
Interesting. I could see Zvex suing this guy over the name though..
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Post by mobeach on Jul 30, 2014 9:54:51 GMT -6
Can a Wooly Mammoth be used as a stand alone preamp for recording on software?
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Post by ericn on Jul 30, 2014 9:55:25 GMT -6
His front panels look way to similar to the JDK stuff from API
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Post by mulmany on Jul 30, 2014 9:59:31 GMT -6
Can a Wooly Mammoth be used as a stand alone preamp for recording on software? This statement is what is wrong with the company. Who can take that seriously? Almost spit my drink out!
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jul 30, 2014 10:03:23 GMT -6
Can a Wooly Mammoth be used as a stand alone preamp for recording on software? Nope. Just allows you to add transformer saturation to your signal path.
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Post by mca on Jul 30, 2014 12:56:14 GMT -6
Hello guys and thanks for noticing. First time on this forum. I try not to do too much forum surfing these days. I'll try to answer some questions and reply to some comments. To give introduction, I'm an engineer first and foremost. The goal behind the gear I'm making was simple. To make some simplistic, well made and great sounding utility pieces of gear that didn't break the bank, and maybe throw in a few fun creative pieces that I've found useful as well. In regards to Z-Vex. I'm pretty sure he's not threatened by me nor will there ever be any confusion. If you want the back story, actually I was excited when he came out with the pedal because at the time my studio was called Wooly Mammoth Audio. In my early touring days my band had the luxury of picking up some of Zachery's early pedal incarnations and loved them. I later changed the studio name to the Mammoth Cave to avoid confusion with a studio in Boston. While I had been using the moniker longer (somewhere I still have ancient business cards for proof haha), they had an admitedly nicer studio and bigger presence so I changed names when I relocated to Akron to avoid any further confusion on album credits. I have no moral issues using Wooly Mammoth for one of my products since they really have no overlap. He makes kick-ass pedals, I make studio gear. Plus I am keeping the bastardized American spelling of Wooly with one L, that my wife has been harassing me about for years. Any affiliation with Mammoths has so long been etched into everything I do that it's pretty much inseparable whether I like it or not. As for the comment on looking like JDK. I don't know that I agree but of course I'm biased. I like to think they were inspired by Bill Putnam's early designs. I was also going for the World War 2 era naval esthetic. Like on a vintage 40's/50's submarine or battleship. Whereas in my eyes, the JDK gear looks like early 70's Vietnam era Army gear. OG green and all. But thats just my opinion. I build stuff with the intention of pleasing my own visual palette. What can I say, I like classic designs. I hate the look of most flashy new gear. But paint it blue, it looks like a pultec, paint it red it looks like Fearn. Paint it black it looks like Shadow Hills . Good artists borrow, great artists steal or some nonsense like that. I just make t look like something I would never get bored of looking at. As Jesse already pointed out (thanks Jesse), no the Wooly mammoth is not a preamp. It's right at home anywhere Line Level. Kind of like a hardware compressor or EQ. After pre's, console and interface inserts or outputs and the like. I like to think of it as an extension of the piece of gear in front of it. It was designed to give some of the sonic signatures of a nice transformer output stage, and also has various diode based soft clipping/saturation modes. Although, with a little luck, I will be introducing my first full pre and compressor early this winter. But it's still in early R&D. Mulmany, by saying "this statement is what is wrong with the company. Who can take that seriously? Almost spit my drink out!" I'm not sure what you are implying in regards to his comment asking it was a pre. If you want to elaborate, I can comment further.
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 30, 2014 13:08:52 GMT -6
Thy look super cool! If they sound as cool as they look, that will define the name imo
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Post by mobeach on Jul 30, 2014 13:10:15 GMT -6
Can a Wooly Mammoth be used as a stand alone preamp for recording on software? This statement is what is wrong with the company. Who can take that seriously? Almost spit my drink out! Where I come from there are no stupid questions, keep in mind not all of us are pros. To me it looks like a two channel preamp, simple enough?
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Post by mca on Jul 30, 2014 13:14:51 GMT -6
Thanks tony. It seems most of the focus is on the Wooly Mammoth. Whereas the rest of the line is where I was excited to offer quality stuff that we all need. Like a descent passive monitor controller with good attenuators that doesn't break the bank. But I suppose that stuff is pretty boring.
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Post by mca on Jul 30, 2014 13:17:14 GMT -6
Mobeach, I think it may have been more of a slam against me than you. Most likely due to creative wording on the faceplates and other stuff. Your question was valid.
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Post by mulmany on Jul 30, 2014 14:39:52 GMT -6
Mobeach, I think it may have been more of a slam against me than you. Most likely due to creative wording on the faceplates and other stuff. Your question was valid. Sorry, not a slam... but I am quite a literal person so on face value its quite humorous. Come on laugh about it! "Can a Wooly Mammoth be used as a pre" it just struck me as very funny, and then I pictured a client asking me what I was using to get that sound, and replying "a Wooly Mammoth". I know how you become attached to a Name, so please take no offence. peace Dig the look by the way!
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Post by mobeach on Jul 30, 2014 14:52:44 GMT -6
Mobeach, I think it may have been more of a slam against me than you. Most likely due to creative wording on the faceplates and other stuff. Your question was valid. Sorry, not a slam... but I am quite a literal person so on face value its quite humorous. Come on laugh about it! "Can a Wooly Mammoth be used as a pre" it just struck me as very funny, and then I pictured a client asking me what I was using to get that sound, and replying "a Wooly Mammoth". I know how you become attached to a Name, so please take no offence. peace Dig the look by the way! I took it as a I didn't have a clue what I was talking about sort of thing, I assumed it had two sets of ins/outs on the rear panel like my poor boy Presonus.
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Post by mca on Jul 30, 2014 16:06:19 GMT -6
hah! mulmany, I might owe you for marketing strategies. "Pretty green grass goes in one end, stinky crap comes out the other". That has a nice ring to it.
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 30, 2014 17:51:45 GMT -6
Thanks tony. It seems most of the focus is on the Wooly Mammoth. Whereas the rest of the line is where I was excited to offer quality stuff that we all need. Like a descent passive monitor controller with good attenuators that doesn't break the bank. But I suppose that stuff is pretty boring. 2 things, it is a pretty funny scenario "how do get that sound?" "well, i plug in the wooly mammoth...duhh?", i laughed when i read mobeach's post as well, but only cause i thought it was cool. secondly, hold the presses, i'm an unobservent idiot! i will be picking up one of your passive monitor controllers very shortly! those look awesome and have great guts, and the price is absurdly low man! cool! BTW, the 1/8" topside input is friggin genius!
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 30, 2014 17:59:13 GMT -6
jcoutu1 weren't you just asking about this ^ edit; one page back, my last post...
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Post by mobeach on Jul 30, 2014 18:02:06 GMT -6
I guess it's funny looking back at it but I was dead serious
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jul 30, 2014 18:11:38 GMT -6
jcoutu1 weren't you just asking about this ^ edit; one page back, my last post... Yep, the monitor controller and Mammoth Quad are the bits that I'm interested in. I expect that it'll sound much better than my old Big Knob.
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 30, 2014 18:14:22 GMT -6
ok, now i just went through the site, mca , very creative, cool and totally useful stuff here, the prices are warranted for the cases alone..jeez, if the guts/sounds are happening, in conjunction with the uber cool looks, your gonna do great man!
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 30, 2014 18:17:10 GMT -6
jcoutu1 weren't you just asking about this ^ edit; one page back, my last post... Yep, the monitor controller and Mammoth Quad are the bits that I'm interested in. I expect that it'll sound much better than my old Big Knob. my brother picked up a hi end passive attenuator, of course finite tolerance vishay resistors utilized, thats whats apparently in this, just smd style, it's a no lose at that price, i'm getting one.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jul 30, 2014 18:31:31 GMT -6
Yep, the monitor controller and Mammoth Quad are the bits that I'm interested in. I expect that it'll sound much better than my old Big Knob. my brother picked up a hi end passive attenuator, of course finite tolerance vishay resistors utilized, thats whats apparently in this, just smd style, it's a no lose at that price, i'm getting one. Check out the Mammoth Cave Facebook. You can get another $5 off if you share one of their posts.
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Post by mca on Jul 30, 2014 22:28:37 GMT -6
Thanks Tony! So I'm not alone in the need to simplify "hey can we make the bass sound like this low quality mp3 that i can play you through my phone". Yeah, topside 1/8" seemed like a no-brainer to me. Half of what got me started in wanting to offer other people a simple cost effective monitor controller was when I needed a new one last year. I was in a pinch (financially, and needed it fast) and the options were slim for one that didn't break the bank, yet had some sort of clean signal path. I won't say what i bought, but I was a little let down. Even the stepped pot on it was skimped on and disappointing. And so I decided that why not take "you get what you pay for" and turn it into something more. In about two weeks I'm going to be kicking my own butt for charging too small of a markup after cost, when I'm covered in bandaids from burnt fingers from soldering until the cows come home. yeah, after I stepped back I totally laughed at the reply. I thought you were actually picking him or I. I'm still living on no sleep and was feeling punchy. I had just come from another place that had somebody trolling about how I shouldn't be able to sleep at night for ripping off Shadow Hills. Which is nonsense because any fool knows that I actually ripped off Bill Putnam's early designs. Well, that and the WWII Navy submarines. Hopefully the submarines don't sue. www.gearslutz.com/board/attachments/so-much-gear-so-little-time/146619d1259747979-im-finally-doing-im-getting-rid-my-computer-ua_modular_console.jpg Rest in peace Bill and thanks for the inspiration.
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Post by ericn on Jul 30, 2014 23:01:49 GMT -6
Thanks Tony! So I'm not alone in the need to simplify "hey can we make the bass sound like this low quality mp3 that i can play you through my phone". Yeah, topside 1/8" seemed like a no-brainer to me. Half of what got me started in wanting to offer other people a simple cost effective monitor controller was when I needed a new one last year. I was in a pinch (financially, and needed it fast) and the options were slim for one that didn't break the bank, yet had some sort of clean signal path. I won't say what i bought, but I was a little let down. Even the stepped pot on it was skimped on and disappointing. And so I decided that why not take "you get what you pay for" and turn it into something more. In about two weeks I'm going to be kicking my own butt for charging too small of a markup after cost, when I'm covered and bandaids from burnt fingers from soldering until the cows come home. yeah, after I stepped back i totally laughed at mobeach's comment. I'm still living on no sleep and was feeling punchy. I had just come from another place that had somebody trolling about how I shouldn't be able to sleep at night for ripping off Shadow Hills. Which is nonsense because any fool knows that I actually ripped off Bill Putnam's early designs. Well, that and the WWII Navy submarines. Hopefully the submarines don't sue. www.gearslutz.com/board/attachments/so-much-gear-so-little-time/146619d1259747979-im-finally-doing-im-getting-rid-my-computer-ua_modular_console.jpg Rest in peace Bill and thanks for the inspiration. But even The Putmans ripped off Puttman! How can somebody say you ripped off Shadow Hills? The have schematics? Bakelite knobs man no you ripped off Edison ! I said your stuff looked like JDK, it was intended as notice, the guys at API can be a tad, umm what's the word snippy? About aesthetics!
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Post by KJ on Jul 30, 2014 23:10:07 GMT -6
Looks great! I have just placed an order for The Deluxe Edition!!
BTW, does the VU meter light up when it's switched on?
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Post by mca on Jul 30, 2014 23:26:55 GMT -6
Ha, yes! It lights up. There are also on/off amber LED's that indicate when the circuit is "in". I'll be doing some real photo sessions and whatnot soon. I'm trying to transition out of a busy studio schedule to focus more on this. Plus my wife had to go and find the house of her dreams and decide we needed to move fast, so this week has left me spinning in circles. KJ, I'm on my way to check email again so I'll catch you over there. Thanks! This was all supposed to be a nice little soft intro into "hey maybe I'll make some gear for other people in my spare time for the fun of it". It's only been two days and already I can't keep up on emails and distribution inquires from all over the globe. I feel like middle school kid who just got asked to play in an NBA game.
I just got a cease and desist letter form Edison's great granddaughter on the knobs. Thanks for ratting me out ericn.
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