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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 2, 2024 6:44:27 GMT -6
What techniques do peeps prefer here ?
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Post by Shadowk on Mar 2, 2024 7:03:53 GMT -6
With plugins two comps doing smaller amounts of GR as it seems to impact the signal less, with analog equipment just the one normally.
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Post by kbsmoove on Mar 2, 2024 8:53:47 GMT -6
I do fast comp into slower comp when tracking vocals almost always. Typically a daking fet2 or fatso into JLM la500.
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Post by niklas1073 on Mar 2, 2024 9:11:14 GMT -6
1176 shaving transients off into LA2a to mangle it. But I've noticed lately using one comp. and pushing it harder and like the outcome just as much with less to keep track on.
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Post by doubledog on Mar 2, 2024 9:16:42 GMT -6
I don't do that exactly like that... but I will sometimes track into an 1176 style comp set very light threshold, just to catch any over-exuberance by the singer and prevent any potential overs. Then I'll use either an LA-2A plugin or run it through a LA-2A style outboard comp later. so I guess that's double comp in the end.
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Post by Dan on Mar 2, 2024 9:25:04 GMT -6
With plugins two comps doing smaller amounts of GR as it seems to impact the signal less, with analog equipment just the one normally. depends on the plugs and analog compressors. Most analog compressors will have a small sweet spot or multiple small sweet spots so it’s easy to Screw up your signal. Most plugins are horrible so it’s easy to screw up your signal. This is one of the reason so many masters are compressed and then crushed today. It’s the only way the mastering guy can even out junk. |
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Post by drumsound on Mar 2, 2024 9:58:55 GMT -6
More often than not I'm in the same camp and doubledog where I've compressed with hardware in tracking and then used a plugin compressor on the mix as well. I have gone through periods of 2 compressors in tracking, and sometimes still a bit in the mix. I like compression in general and I like to get the vocal to SIT without having to do a lot of automation. |
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Post by jaba on Mar 2, 2024 10:04:19 GMT -6
No set method here but two comps is not uncommon for me. Often one, but sometimes two or more if need be, maybe on top of a one while tracking. So much depends on singer/ genre/ arrangement.
Can't say there's a specific method - this comp for peaks, etc - but in the end that's likely what's happening.
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Post by chessparov on Mar 2, 2024 10:10:27 GMT -6
Personally love the Squeezebox going in. At a close/local friend's Project Studio!  Chris |
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Post by drbill on Mar 2, 2024 10:20:31 GMT -6
Personally love the Squeezebox going in. At a close/local friend's Project Studio! Chris The atomic? Those are awesome! |
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Post by drumsound on Mar 2, 2024 12:43:49 GMT -6
Personally love the Squeezebox going in. At a close/local friend's Project Studio! Chris The atomic? Those are awesome! I always wanted one of those. |
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Post by Dan on Mar 2, 2024 13:03:39 GMT -6
Yeah but I wouldn’t use any of the settings the video maker has. He doesn’t seem to know how to 2/3 of those compressors and the backing track sucks. Scratchy junk.
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Post by chessparov on Mar 2, 2024 13:11:26 GMT -6
My Buddy's daughter (around 34) makes a good living doing Animation VO. (easily $100K+ still).* Not Singing for $$ though. So... If/when he wants to eventually $ell it... Just might  make a Good Buddy deal with me. (same for Avalon M5 Pre) Chris *She did get his Primo 414 BUL-S. And that's her VO mic. |
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Post by drumsound on Mar 2, 2024 13:13:35 GMT -6
That Powair deal seems pretty cool. kinda pricy, though
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Post by chessparov on Mar 2, 2024 13:16:52 GMT -6
Still lovin' the FREE MJUCjr. But in_ahem-more moderation. LOL! Periodically, I do feel "compelled" to ask the current thoughts, on the various/sundry Fmr. Audio units. Chris |
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Post by ab101 on Mar 2, 2024 13:30:33 GMT -6
Still lovin' the FREE MJUCjr. But in_ahem-more moderation. LOL! Periodically, I do feel "compelled" to ask the current thoughts, on the various/sundry Fmr. Audio units. Chris The FMR PBC-6a gets some pretty good reviews, but I have never used it. I would be curious if someone on this board has used it and could comment. |
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Post by jaba on Mar 2, 2024 13:38:46 GMT -6
Still lovin' the FREE MJUCjr. But in_ahem-more moderation. LOL! Periodically, I do feel "compelled" to ask the current thoughts, on the various/sundry Fmr. Audio units. Chris The FMR PBC-6a gets some pretty good reviews, but I have never used it. I would be curious if someone on this board has used it and could comment. It's good. Has a good tone, kinda gooey? Certainly not sterile. Not overly snappy like a dbx. I tended to use it on some guitars, bass, backing vocals. I honestly haven't used it in a while so, grain of salt and all. I really should hook it back up and see how I feel about it now. |
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Post by notneeson on Mar 2, 2024 13:41:53 GMT -6
Still lovin' the FREE MJUCjr. But in_ahem-more moderation. LOL! Periodically, I do feel "compelled" to ask the current thoughts, on the various/sundry Fmr. Audio units. Chris Yeah, I found MJUCjr got really 2D quickly and stopped using it. Maybe I need to revisit. |
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Post by Dan on Mar 2, 2024 15:19:34 GMT -6
That Powair deal seems pretty cool. kinda pricy, though i got it in the sound radix bundle. ignore that guy in the video's stupid settings. tweak expressive vocal preset. keep leveler at 1 second or maybe speed up to 400-500 so. speed up attack and release in compressor if you want to catch phrases and not words or lines because it has frequency dependent lookahead to not zip when triggered by lower frequencies. use peak stop "punch" control to limit overshoot and adaptive slider to set where threshold of compressor begins. honestly i've never used it on a vocal, preferring old school oxford dynamics caveman hammering style.
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Post by Dan on Mar 2, 2024 15:22:01 GMT -6
Still lovin' the FREE MJUCjr. But in_ahem-more moderation. LOL! Periodically, I do feel "compelled" to ask the current thoughts, on the various/sundry Fmr. Audio units. Chris Yeah, I found MJUCjr got really 2D quickly and stopped using it. Maybe I need to revisit. the jr one is only okay. the real one is good in hq mode with cleaner behavior and more advanced circuit models. mki makes a good peak limiter fairchild style and mk ii and mk iii sound good slowed down a bit. |
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Post by Dan on Mar 2, 2024 15:24:26 GMT -6
Still lovin' the FREE MJUCjr. But in_ahem-more moderation. LOL! Periodically, I do feel "compelled" to ask the current thoughts, on the various/sundry Fmr. Audio units. Chris I mean the RNC is a classic workhorse compressor. the others are more colored and not as useful. Set it to supernice on a vocal, attack and release appropriate, and limit the overshoots itb. done. they're digital sidechains controlling analog vcas. not digital control of analog sidechains like distressor or better maker. now you can get plugs that are better than the original unit. they're just not hardware. |
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Post by christophert on Mar 2, 2024 17:52:31 GMT -6
I use MJUC in HQ mode, then always into a hardware comp, usually a BG2, but lately an Amtec 099
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Post by paulcheeba on Mar 2, 2024 18:18:38 GMT -6
I only ever use hardware but I’ve always used an 1176 at an 8:1 ratio to catch peaks and a Vari Mu or an Opto to add an overall smoothness. I lean towards clean vocals a lot more than I did when I was younger but sometimes I’ll still go heavy as an effect depending but then I’ll use an HG2 or an extra ribbon mic that I’ll crush.
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Post by copperx on Mar 2, 2024 20:43:01 GMT -6
Still lovin' the FREE MJUCjr. But in_ahem-more moderation. LOL! Periodically, I do feel "compelled" to ask the current thoughts, on the various/sundry Fmr. Audio units. Chris I mean the RNC is a classic workhorse compressor. the others are more colored and not as useful. Set it to supernice on a vocal, attack and release appropriate, and limit the overshoots itb. done. they're digital sidechains controlling analog vcas. not digital control of analog sidechains like distressor or better maker. now you can get plugs that are better than the original unit. they're just not hardware. Yeah, the RNC is interesting. It's one half hardware and one half plugin. The audio never gets touched by code, but the side chain is basically a plugin. You get the aliasing-free very slight color of a VCA, but the somewhat odd behavior of a plugin. I've never understood why FMR never took the idea further. They could have added switchable models, or models as a paid upgrade, or a DSP high pass filter switchable by holding one of the buttons (no added cost). I mean, that part is just software. I guess we'll never know. |
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Post by miscreantrecords on Mar 3, 2024 3:22:13 GMT -6
The fast comp 1st, slower comp second has been such a good combination for me. In some cases the second is optional.
I appreciate that faster compressors can normally go slower. Slower comps cant always go faster.
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make a Good Buddy deal with me. 
