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Post by nick8801 on Feb 27, 2024 17:09:25 GMT -6
….have a pair of Maag Eq’s or a pair of Pultecs? Mostly for sweetening tracks and buss work. Also kinda interested in the Electrodynes. I think the Maags would be the most versatile, plus I like the new black faceplate in the 500 series.
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Post by guitfiddler on Feb 27, 2024 17:13:43 GMT -6
….have a pair of Maag Eq’s or a pair of Pultecs? Mostly for sweetening tracks and buss work. Also kinda interested in the Electrodynes. I think the Maags would be the most versatile, plus I like the new black faceplate in the 500 series. I’ve had my eyes on those Maag EQ4’s for some time now. One of the many pieces I’ve been interested in. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 27, 2024 21:57:25 GMT -6
If it’s just sweetening…maybe the pultecs
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Post by nnajar on Feb 27, 2024 22:32:15 GMT -6
When available I use them for different things. I’d use the pultecs more for sure.
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Post by robo on Feb 27, 2024 22:36:58 GMT -6
Very different but I’d go for Pultecs.
You should be able to get in the ballpark with plugins and see which vibe suits you better.
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Post by nick8801 on Feb 28, 2024 4:38:22 GMT -6
Have plugins of both, and I definitely reach for the Pultecs more. Anyone here ever use the Electrodyne eq’s? I used to have an Electrodyne preamp, and it had a beautiful sound. Huge transformers in that thing! Thinking the eq’s might give me some of that vibe, plus I could add some presence and punch with them. Btw, I’m almost certainly talking 500 series here.
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Post by niklas1073 on Feb 28, 2024 6:15:23 GMT -6
I have a stereo pultec style in the rear. Really really... really happy with it. I think what you get with the pulteq, especially in bus work, is the recognisable character and behaviour, the valve amp with it's own sound and the kind of "don't look at the knobs just listen" experience. The maag is for sure more precise though not surgical, musical but maybe less character? The pultec is also very subtle and sneaks up on you a little. But I am looking at it purely from a mixbus perspective now. So I think there is from a fundamental and character point of view quite a difference between which to go for despite the reality in praxis might not yield in as much difference depending on how you use it???
EDIT: This is almost one of those... Which guy do you want to be?
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Post by nick8801 on Feb 28, 2024 8:00:57 GMT -6
Just browsing eq's and I think I have to throw the Helios and the Phoenix Gyraf in the mix here too. Basically, looking to use as part of a channel strip I'm building. So, this would really be used to get an almost finished sound into the computer. I already have a compressor I'm pretty much sold on (Chandler Opto). My pre is the Chandler Redd47.
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Post by smashlord on Feb 28, 2024 21:48:59 GMT -6
I own the Maags, a pair of Audioscape EQP-As and have worked out of a room for years that has a vintage EQP-1 and EQP-1A. I find the Pultecs/Audioscapes to be far more useful as a general purpose EQ than the Maag. The Maags may have more EQ points, but TBH, I kind of feel they are not always ones you would reach for and its rare I am using more than the AIR band. That said, the AIR band has beat out the top boost on the vintage EQP-1A quite a number of times on a vocal. It really is that good... its really the "gimme more band". It just brings out all the detail in the top without any schmutz. If you want an upfront, modern sounding rock vocal, the Maag is your friend.
If I had to choose one, though... Pultecs no question.
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Post by ab101 on Feb 28, 2024 22:37:49 GMT -6
If you can get a Silver Bullet II, it is great. When I got mine, I sold my Maag rack unit. Yes, the Maag had nice "air," but that was all I liked about it. The Silver Bullet II - with the presence and air bands, is a great sweetener that imho is easily as good as the Maag, and yet you get more out of the unit.
If you have to stick to 500 units, I like the Electrodynes over the Maag. And the A Designs Hammer is good as well.
And if money is no object, the presence and air bands on the Therm. Swift are the sweetest.
Lots of choices, but honestly, the Maag really bugs me, as it could have had much better eq points, other than the air band.
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Post by nick8801 on Feb 29, 2024 7:32:52 GMT -6
Spent the evening last night playing with some of my UAD eq's. Setup the Pultec, Maag, Helios, 1073, Curve Bender, Harrison, and Motown on acoustic guitar tracks and drum tracks. Pultec is obviously beautiful, but sometimes I really want to shape the mids a bit more, so I think I'll just stick to my ITB Pultecs. As much as I love opening up the top with a Pultec, I don't know if I really want that in physical format. Maag was kind of uninspiring. Yes, the air band is awesome, but the other bands don't really wow me or bring out anything special to my ears. So, that's out of the running. I've always dug the Harrison but compared to the others it's a little too vanilla for my tastes. The Hitsville was cool, but those fixed eq points are just not my thing. Plus, there's no 500 version, so that's out too. I generally reach for my 1073 eq's when working in the box so I pulled that up against a demo of the V2 Helios. Gotta say, the Helios edged it out! The Neve had a harder sound in the mids and highs. The low end is more controllable on the 1073, especially with the filter and selectable low bands, but the mids and highs are just better on the Helios. My favorite was the Curve Bender. Man, everytime I hear that thing it just sounds right. Unfortunately, the rack unit is way out of my budget, and the 500 series version only has a presence band and two low frequencies to choose from. Not exactly the amount of bending that I would like to have available from that circuit. So...basically just going to save up and get one of the H2 500 eq's to pair with the TG Opto in a little 3 space rack. Should be a really cool British flavored channel strip. Vintage EMI tube > Helios Eq > TG channel Opto compression. How can I go wrong with something like that?
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Post by thehightenor on Feb 29, 2024 8:19:10 GMT -6
….have a pair of Maag Eq’s or a pair of Pultecs? Mostly for sweetening tracks and buss work. Also kinda interested in the Electrodynes. I think the Maags would be the most versatile, plus I like the new black faceplate in the 500 series. Neither, I'd rather have this as it will cover both those styles of EQ plus way more :-) * Air Band * Baxandall shelves * Passive inductor mids * Special sauce Vic Keary Precence band * Pultec style low end cut/boost. .... in one glorious sounding stereo tube EQ. Amazing for tracking too! www.thermionicculture.com/index.php/products/the-swift-detailI went for the slightly more expensive transformer balance o/p version. |
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Post by nick8801 on Feb 29, 2024 9:02:20 GMT -6
….have a pair of Maag Eq’s or a pair of Pultecs? Mostly for sweetening tracks and buss work. Also kinda interested in the Electrodynes. I think the Maags would be the most versatile, plus I like the new black faceplate in the 500 series. Neither, I'd rather have this as it will cover both those styles of EQ plus way more :-) * Air Band * Baxandall shelves * Passive inductor mids * Special sauce Vic Keary Precence band * Pultec style low end cut/boost. .... in one glorious sounding stereo tube EQ. Amazing for tracking too! www.thermionicculture.com/index.php/products/the-swift-detailI went for the slightly more expensive transformer balance o/p version. That thing is glorious. Probably more than I need for a mono channel strip though. I think if I was getting close to that price point I would grab a Curve Bender. That' still my favorite eq ever. |
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Post by bricejchandler on Feb 29, 2024 13:13:49 GMT -6
Neither, I'd rather have this as it will cover both those styles of EQ plus way more :-) * Air Band * Baxandall shelves * Passive inductor mids * Special sauce Vic Keary Precence band * Pultec style low end cut/boost. .... in one glorious sounding stereo tube EQ. Amazing for tracking too! www.thermionicculture.com/index.php/products/the-swift-detailI went for the slightly more expensive transformer balance o/p version. That thing is glorious. Probably more than I need for a mono channel strip though. I think if I was getting close to that price point I would grab a Curve Bender. That' still my favorite eq ever. I use the Chandler 500 eq all the time for tracking. Yeah it's limited but I find it's really easy to enhance the source for broad strokes during tracking. I love the 800 on stand up bass. 4,2 or 10k on vocals. Slight bass boost on kick drum and 500 cut. I usually boost 4db max just because it's so broad, and it never sounds Eqed. It's not as radical a shaper as a Pultec but it's perfect for tracking IMO. The Maag is cool but like most people I only really use the airband so I'd only get the eq2 version for tracking. It sounds great on vocals but I have to admit I'm more of a mid guy than an airy vocal kind of guy. |
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Post by nick8801 on Feb 29, 2024 13:16:39 GMT -6
That thing is glorious. Probably more than I need for a mono channel strip though. I think if I was getting close to that price point I would grab a Curve Bender. That' still my favorite eq ever. I use the Chandler 500 eq all the time for tracking. Yeah it's limited but I find it's really easy to enhance the source for broad strokes during tracking. I love the 800 on stand up bass. 4,2 or 10k on vocals. Slight bass boost on kick drum and 500 cut. I usually boost 4db max just because it's so broad, and it never sounds Eqed. It's not as radical a shaper as a Pultec but it's perfect for tracking IMO. The Maag is cool but like most people I only really use the airband so I'd only get the eq2 version for tracking. It sounds great on vocals but I have to admit I'm more of a mid guy than an airy vocal kind of guy. That’s good to hear…kind of hard to find any info on the Chandler. I may throw it back into the mix as an option! |
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Post by bricejchandler on Mar 1, 2024 2:43:29 GMT -6
nick8801I think the Chandler is a bit expensive for most people for a 2 band eq and I guess it hasn't really caught on, plus there are just so many 500 eqs now. But for overall sweetening it's great. It never makes things sound small or eqed.
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Post by nick8801 on Mar 1, 2024 4:49:00 GMT -6
nick8801I think the Chandler is a bit expensive for most people for a 2 band eq and I guess it hasn't really caught on, plus there are just so many 500 eqs now. But for overall sweetening it's great. It never makes things sound small or eqed. Kind of the same deal with the Electrodyne. 2 bands, but hard to mess up. I’d love to be able to shoot those 2 out. |
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Post by Ward on Mar 1, 2024 9:27:40 GMT -6
I'm kind of over the whole Pultec EQP thing . . . Gimme the Maag
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Post by Dan on Mar 1, 2024 13:34:42 GMT -6
I'm kind of over the whole Pultec EQP thing . . . Gimme the Maag Give me a digital parametric. Let me go ham and eq into some cool saturator. |
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Post by svart on Mar 1, 2024 15:47:48 GMT -6
At this point, I've stopped thinking about versatility with plugs or hardware and just go with effect now. Versatility is a fancy word for boring! lol. It's also a way to convince yourself to buy something that does stuff that you probably already have available.
Figure out what special thing you want and THEN figure out what you need to buy.
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Post by nick8801 on Mar 1, 2024 19:47:42 GMT -6
At this point, I've stopped thinking about versatility with plugs or hardware and just go with effect now. Versatility is a fancy word for boring! lol. It's also a way to convince yourself to buy something that does stuff that you probably already have available. Figure out what special thing you want and THEN figure out what you need to buy. That’s definitely what I’m going for. Something that will impart a little sonic signature. |
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Post by drsax on Mar 1, 2024 20:17:16 GMT -6
….have a pair of Maag Eq’s or a pair of Pultecs? Mostly for sweetening tracks and buss work. Also kinda interested in the Electrodynes. I think the Maags would be the most versatile, plus I like the new black faceplate in the 500 series. Pultecs all the way. I have a pair of the Audioscapes and they never disappoint. Can’t make them sound bad. |
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Post by sean on Mar 1, 2024 20:26:26 GMT -6
The High Voltage EQ6S is a great alternative to the Maag for a lot less. I’d probably get that and a pair of Audioscape or AML Pultecs and you’d have both for around $3000
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 2, 2024 14:08:04 GMT -6
….have a pair of Maag Eq’s or a pair of Pultecs? Mostly for sweetening tracks and buss work. Also kinda interested in the Electrodynes. I think the Maags would be the most versatile, plus I like the new black faceplate in the 500 series. Pultecs all the way. I have a pair of the Audioscapes and they never disappoint. Can’t make them sound bad. You see that Stam with the MEQ added in? Great idea. |
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Post by nick8801 on Mar 3, 2024 13:23:16 GMT -6
Update…ordered an Iron Age LH95….Matt kind of directed me to their H9 but after listening to some demos of the 95, and checking out my sieq plugin vs my Helios plug, I kind of preferred the Siemans thing for a general purpose tone shaper. Anyway, I want a pair eventually, so instead of the Chandler opto, I went with the Pete’s Place BAC. I only have a 3 space rack (on purpose).
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