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Post by Blackdawg on Feb 14, 2024 23:44:37 GMT -6
I do everything at 96k minimum.
Classical work is at 384k
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Post by noob on Feb 15, 2024 8:41:00 GMT -6
I do everything at 96k minimum. Classical work is at 384k This post right here, officer
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Post by smashlord on Feb 15, 2024 9:05:03 GMT -6
I do everything at 96k minimum. Classical work is at 384k I remember the first time we had a very famous cello player come to a studio I worked at and the engineer brought their own converters so they could record at 352.8Khz. I thought it was a joke at first!
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Post by Dan on Feb 15, 2024 21:29:43 GMT -6
I don’t notice a difference unless I am automating everything with the plugins I use when 88.2 and 96 kHz clean it up. Double sampling rates also make the MDW stuff sound cleaner but not other plugs. My apogee symphony desktop has asynchronous sample rate conversion internally on the ess chipset so it won’t really matter anyway for me.
The ultra high sample rate for classical stuff is crazy. The chips are just going to save junk way above the audible band that would otherwise be filtered out and it will all go to 44.1 or 48 kHz anyway in the end. That stock windows src sucks.
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Post by Blackdawg on Feb 15, 2024 22:21:00 GMT -6
I do everything at 96k minimum. Classical work is at 384k I remember the first time we had a very famous cello player come to a studio I worked at and the engineer brought their own converters so they could record at 352.8Khz. I thought it was a joke at first! probably Merging Converters. What we use. Really good units.
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Post by EmRR on Feb 16, 2024 9:19:16 GMT -6
I listened to some opera material captured at 384k in a mastering room, followed by downconversions of each 1/2 step down to 48k. Subtle changes with each step, but perceptible, gradually less relaxed and smooth sounding, less spatial clarity. Clear enough differences you could likely pick the rate over multiple blind comparisons of the same sample. Not unlike esoteric comparisons of power cables, or dither type, or AES/EBU vs SPIDF transfers. Etc. Yeah, i hear something changing, can I practically afford to care?
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Post by ericn on Feb 16, 2024 9:44:14 GMT -6
I have always tended to mix at what ever the tracks were recorded at. While the algorithms within Codecs have gotten better I have always avoided use of Codecs.
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Post by tkaitkai on Feb 16, 2024 12:09:46 GMT -6
I do notice that some older Waves plugs sound better at 96, specifically distortion stuff like GTR.
I also tend to mix at 96 just in case, but I will admit that’s just a weird superstitious thing I do for no good reason.
But I definitely think recording at 96 sounds noticeably better. With my ADC, that is.
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Post by chessparov on Feb 16, 2024 12:57:29 GMT -6
Excellent posts all. (Some even within my understanding) Ketchup later. But... "noob" is NO noob. Now me? LOL! Chris P.S. Guess I'll stick to 24/48, for occasional "important".
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Post by noob on Feb 16, 2024 13:32:29 GMT -6
Excellent posts all. (Some even within my understanding) Ketchup later. But... "noob" is NO noob. Now me? LOL! Chris P.S. Guess I'll stick to 24/48, for occasional "important". I'm not a "RealNoob" that's for sure
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Post by chessparov on Feb 16, 2024 16:20:15 GMT -6
Always kept a soft spot for... Cute Noobian Princesses though. They tend to prefer 18K over 14.0 Hardware only.
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Post by viciousbliss on Feb 16, 2024 21:01:32 GMT -6
I do notice that some older Waves plugs sound better at 96, specifically distortion stuff like GTR. I also tend to mix at 96 just in case, but I will admit that’s just a weird superstitious thing I do for no good reason. But I definitely think recording at 96 sounds noticeably better. With my ADC, that is. Those older Waves plugins don't usually oversample. I've looked at the plugin counts for their Soundgrid servers. Some of those older plugs can get hundreds of instances on computers that don't have a lot of processing. The chips in those servers are really dated and even the one in the Extreme Server probably doesn't even have half the single core power of the best chips today. The multicore is probably 10x better at least. I've looked up the chips in those servers and compared them. Probably made some posts on here or GS where I wrote out the numbers. I'm gonna say those Soundgrid servers use chips that were not even top of the line a decade ago when the 6950x was king. You'll see with the newish Waves plugins like H-Reverb, the plugin counts on those servers are really low. The Extreme could maybe run 7 instances at best. While it could run something like 150 or 200 mono CLA76. With the newer ones, the instance count didn't change regardless of sample rate. But with the older ones, you'll see that you get something like twice as many instances at 44k.
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Post by christopher on Feb 17, 2024 0:29:30 GMT -6
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