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Post by geoff738 on Jan 23, 2024 14:07:50 GMT -6
Does such a thing even exist?
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Post by niklas1073 on Jan 23, 2024 14:25:55 GMT -6
I don’t know where cheap ends and expensive begins in stands, but I have been super happy with my Iso Acoustics. Nice angling options, does the job and are sturdy enough.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 23, 2024 14:27:45 GMT -6
If you want cheap, build em yourself !
Thought I saw here a few months ago a good knock down kit: designed to be filled with sand?
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Post by noob on Jan 23, 2024 14:32:05 GMT -6
How cheap are you talking?
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Post by notneeson on Jan 23, 2024 14:55:28 GMT -6
I don’t know where cheap ends and expensive begins in stands, but I have been super happy with my Iso Acoustics. Nice angling options, does the job and are sturdy enough. I have the ISO Acoustics stands atop a stack of half-width cinder blocks and it’s a definite improvement over just placing them on my desk (the kind with built in racks for gear). |
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Post by geoff738 on Jan 23, 2024 14:55:29 GMT -6
Cheap as possible!
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Post by poppaflavor on Jan 23, 2024 15:36:36 GMT -6
Cheap as possible! Cheers, Geoff Are you talking about something to elevate them off your desk like the Iso Acoustics or something to elevate them off the floor? Linked below are durable floor stands that are reasonably sturdy with a pin for telescoping so that it doesn't rely on just a clamp. It says it holds speakers up to 90 lb, I don't think I would go that far but they are really solid feeling. They are from Pyle who makes reasonably decent home entertainment level quality stuff like power conditioners etc. For $58 it seems like they would be hard to beat for price and simple sturdiness. "Pyle Dual Studio Monitor 2 Speaker Stand Mount Kit - Heavy Duty Tripod Pair and Height Adjustable from 34" to 53" W/Metal Platform Base - PSTND32, Black" a.co/d/gydvYDBThey don't provide any vibration management whatsoever so you'd have to manage that. I've used them with a isolating foam pad on top of the flat top. It leaves a lot to be desired, but is workable at reasonable monitoring levels not having too much bass. |
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Post by geoff738 on Jan 23, 2024 15:55:50 GMT -6
Cheap as possible! Cheers, Geoff Are you talking about something to elevate them off your desk like the Iso Acoustics or something to elevate them off the floor? Linked below are durable floor stands that are reasonably sturdy with a pin for telescoping so that it doesn't rely on just a clamp. It says it holds speakers up to 90 lb, I don't think I would go that far but they are really solid feeling. They are from Pyle who makes reasonably decent home entertainment level quality stuff like power conditioners etc. For $58 it seems like they would be hard to beat for price and simple sturdiness. "Pyle Dual Studio Monitor 2 Speaker Stand Mount Kit - Heavy Duty Tripod Pair and Height Adjustable from 34" to 53" W/Metal Platform Base - PSTND32, Black" a.co/d/gydvYDBThey don't provide any vibration management whatsoever so you'd have to manage that. I've used them with a isolating foam pad on top of the flat top. It leaves a lot to be desired, but is workable at reasonable monitoring levels not having too much bass. Off the floor. Those look pretty good actually. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by ericn on Jan 23, 2024 16:17:45 GMT -6
Are you talking about something to elevate them off your desk like the Iso Acoustics or something to elevate them off the floor? Linked below are durable floor stands that are reasonably sturdy with a pin for telescoping so that it doesn't rely on just a clamp. It says it holds speakers up to 90 lb, I don't think I would go that far but they are really solid feeling. They are from Pyle who makes reasonably decent home entertainment level quality stuff like power conditioners etc. For $58 it seems like they would be hard to beat for price and simple sturdiness. "Pyle Dual Studio Monitor 2 Speaker Stand Mount Kit - Heavy Duty Tripod Pair and Height Adjustable from 34" to 53" W/Metal Platform Base - PSTND32, Black" a.co/d/gydvYDBThey don't provide any vibration management whatsoever so you'd have to manage that. I've used them with an isolating foam pad on top of the flat top. It leaves a lot to be desired, but is workable at reasonable monitoring levels not having too much bass. Off the floor. Those look pretty good actually. Cheers, Geoff The local home supply, 2 large PVC pipes cut to length, 2 flanges with screw holes. 2 3/4 ply bottoms cut 3in larger than in each direction than flanges, 2 3/4 ply tops cut 1/2 in smaller than monitor footprint. Glue flanges to each end of pipe caulk bottom flanges glue centered to bottoms fill pipes with virgin sand, attach tops same way. HD and Lowe’s and most others will cut to length for a price, key is glueing flanges straight! Paint to taste. Next best cheaper than sound anchors: Take a picture of sound anchors to local welding/ metal fabrication shop have them build a copy at your ideal height. |
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Post by poppaflavor on Jan 23, 2024 16:34:32 GMT -6
Off the floor. Those look pretty good actually. Cheers, Geoff The local home supply, 2 large PVC pipes cut to length, 2 flanges with screw holes. 2 3/4 ply bottoms cut 3in larger than in each direction than flanges, 2 3/4 ply tops cut 1/2 in smaller than monitor footprint. Glue flanges to each end of pipe caulk bottom flanges glue centered to bottoms fill pipes with virgin sand, attach tops same way. HD and Lowe’s and most others will cut to length for a price, key is glueing flanges straight! Paint to taste. Next best cheaper than sound anchors: Take a picture of sound anchors to local welding/ metal fabrication shop have them build a copy at your ideal height. I totally get what you're saying, and I do generally enjoy DIY projects. Especially when I'm learning something like audio electronics. At the same time for less than 60 bucks I'm just going to plonk down the money and buy them. The sturdiness is pretty good, probably better than the PVC would be, and they are already leveled (at least the pair I got). After planning and driving around and buying and measuring and constructing, although I don't make much money, what you described would cost me more than 60 bucks worth of my work time or precious weekend leisure time. |
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Post by ericn on Jan 23, 2024 16:39:53 GMT -6
The local home supply, 2 large PVC pipes cut to length, 2 flanges with screw holes. 2 3/4 ply bottoms cut 3in larger than in each direction than flanges, 2 3/4 ply tops cut 1/2 in smaller than monitor footprint. Glue flanges to each end of pipe caulk bottom flanges glue centered to bottoms fill pipes with virgin sand, attach tops same way. HD and Lowe’s and most others will cut to length for a price, key is glueing flanges straight! Paint to taste. Next best cheaper than sound anchors: Take a picture of sound anchors to local welding/ metal fabrication shop have them build a copy at your ideal height. I totally get what you're saying, and I do generally enjoy DIY projects. Especially when I'm learning something like audio electronics. At the same time for less than 60 bucks I'm just going to plonk down the money and buy them. The sturdiness is pretty good, probably better than the PVC would be, and they are already leveled (at least the pair I got). After planning and driving around and buying and measuring and constructing, although I don't make much money, what you described would cost me more than 60 bucks worth of my work time or precious weekend leisure time. What ever works for you, but the only thing I have seen sturdier are sound anchors. Way to many incidents of seeing monitors that crashed because of cheap stands. |
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Post by drumsound on Jan 23, 2024 16:46:13 GMT -6
Are you talking about something to elevate them off your desk like the Iso Acoustics or something to elevate them off the floor? Linked below are durable floor stands that are reasonably sturdy with a pin for telescoping so that it doesn't rely on just a clamp. It says it holds speakers up to 90 lb, I don't think I would go that far but they are really solid feeling. They are from Pyle who makes reasonably decent home entertainment level quality stuff like power conditioners etc. For $58 it seems like they would be hard to beat for price and simple sturdiness. "Pyle Dual Studio Monitor 2 Speaker Stand Mount Kit - Heavy Duty Tripod Pair and Height Adjustable from 34" to 53" W/Metal Platform Base - PSTND32, Black" a.co/d/gydvYDBThey don't provide any vibration management whatsoever so you'd have to manage that. I've used them with a isolating foam pad on top of the flat top. It leaves a lot to be desired, but is workable at reasonable monitoring levels not having too much bass. Off the floor. Those look pretty good actually. Cheers, Geoff I measure super carefully, including where the top of my meter bridge was, as well as the Radial Recoil iso deals, and knew the measurement of how high the woofer was off the bottom of the speakers. I went to the Menards (or was it Lowes?) site and figured out what I needed in cinderblock land, bought them and spent around $50 I think. The key was a shorter 'decorative' one for the top to get to the height I needed. |
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Post by geoff738 on Jan 23, 2024 16:54:50 GMT -6
I totally get what you're saying, and I do generally enjoy DIY projects. Especially when I'm learning something like audio electronics. At the same time for less than 60 bucks I'm just going to plonk down the money and buy them. The sturdiness is pretty good, probably better than the PVC would be, and they are already leveled (at least the pair I got). After planning and driving around and buying and measuring and constructing, although I don't make much money, what you described would cost me more than 60 bucks worth of my work time or precious weekend leisure time. What ever works for you, but the only thing I have seen sturdier are sound anchors. Way to many incidents of seeing monitors that crashed because of cheap stands. Well the reason I posed the question was because I tossed my old cheap stands after brushing against the monitor and having it tumble. Amazingly still works although they are cheap pieces of crap too. Being carless and not particularly handy I likely am not a candidate for a diy solution. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by dok on Jan 23, 2024 16:58:15 GMT -6
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Post by ericn on Jan 23, 2024 17:03:41 GMT -6
What ever works for you, but the only thing I have seen sturdier are sound anchors. Way to many incidents of seeing monitors that crashed because of cheap stands. Well the reason I posed the question was because I tossed my old cheap stands after brushing against the monitor and having it tumble. Amazingly still works although they are cheap pieces of crap too. Being carless and not particularly handy I likely am not a candidate for a diy solution. Cheers, Geoff In that case do not buy anything that you can’t fill with mass, you either need something very large that will effect the sound as it will extend the baffle, or mass for stability. Actually the sand filled PVC DIY that are about 4/5 of the height of the Sound Anchors I sent to JK are much more stable with Sand compared to the Sound Anchors without. |
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Post by geoff738 on Jan 23, 2024 17:11:48 GMT -6
Those look pretty nice too. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by mattbroiler on Jan 23, 2024 18:10:22 GMT -6
I have a pair of the DR Pros I could sell you for low $$$ - feel free to DM me if interested
They are not the 36" floor standing model these ones are 12" tall so they would sit on top of something else
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Post by geoff738 on Jan 23, 2024 18:28:50 GMT -6
I have a pair of the DR Pros I could sell you for low $$$ - feel free to DM me if interested They are not the 36" floor standing model these ones are 12" tall so they would sit on top of something else Id need the full sized ones. Plus Im in Canada. Thanks for the offer though! Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by poppaflavor on Jan 23, 2024 19:12:00 GMT -6
Well the reason I posed the question was because I tossed my old cheap stands after brushing against the monitor and having it tumble. Amazingly still works although they are cheap pieces of crap too. Being carless and not particularly handy I likely am not a candidate for a diy solution. Cheers, Geoff In that case do not buy anything that you can’t fill with mass, you either need something very large that will effect the sound as it will extend the baffle, or mass for stability. Actually the sand filled PVC DIY that are about 4/5 of the height of the Sound Anchors I sent to JK are much more stable with Sand compared to the Sound Anchors without. Hey fellows, a dumb question if you don't mind? I've used sandbags clustered around mic stands so I get the weighting concept for stability, but how does it help stability to fill a tall cylindrical post (the ones on MusciciansFriend site) or a tall PVC with sand or BBs? That won't proportionately weight the bottom of the stand more that the top, and seems to me that it would make it top heavy and even *more* prone to tipping over. How does filling a tall stand post with weight make it less likely to tip? |
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Post by dok on Jan 23, 2024 19:18:00 GMT -6
Hey fellows, a dumb question if you don't mind? I've used sandbags clustered around mic stands so I get the weighting concept for stability, but how does it help stability to fill a tall cylindrical post (the ones on MusciciansFriend site) or a tall PVC with sand or BBs? That won't proportionately weight the bottom of the stand more that the top, and seems to me that it would make it top heavy and even *more* prone to tipping over. How does filling a tall stand post with weight make it less likely to tip? Don't fill it all the way up. |
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Post by poppaflavor on Jan 23, 2024 19:30:10 GMT -6
Hey fellows, a dumb question if you don't mind? I've used sandbags clustered around mic stands so I get the weighting concept for stability, but how does it help stability to fill a tall cylindrical post (the ones on MusciciansFriend site) or a tall PVC with sand or BBs? That won't proportionately weight the bottom of the stand more that the top, and seems to me that it would make it top heavy and even *more* prone to tipping over. How does filling a tall stand post with weight make it less likely to tip? Don't fill it all the way up. Hmmm. That's what I thought. But unless you get lead shot, filling the bottom 1/3 of the post doesn't seem like a meaningful contribution of weight to the bottom. Even with lead shot instead of sand it's only a fraction of the weight of the monitor atop the stand, right? I do like the design of the stands at MF site you indicated, but I'd just feel safer with bags of shot draped across the bottom plate (or one of those U-shaped shot bags) than filling a bit of the lower section of the post, especially if it were with sand rather than shot. |
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Post by dok on Jan 23, 2024 21:56:42 GMT -6
The base is wider than the top and feels sturdy enough for my purposes. I don't have giant three-way monitors on them or anything but they are sturdy enough and I'm not often doing anything that would risk tipping them over. But I suppose anything could be tipped over if you try hard enough. Otherwise throw "cheap" out of the equation and you have plenty of other options.
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Post by Pueblo Audio on Jan 23, 2024 22:04:23 GMT -6
Cinder blocks!
Build a “chimney” of cinder blocks for each speaker.
Then go to whatever local dollar store is near you and buy some poly-fill quilts and stuff any open spaces of the chimney’s . If desired, wrap the columns with fabric to match your decor. Crazy affordable and probably the best sounding speaker stand you could erect. Enjoy.
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Post by bubblejackets on Jan 23, 2024 22:17:50 GMT -6
I vote cinder blocks too! Maybe sanded down and spray painted so the concrete dust doesn’t get everywhere. What’s the quilt stuffing do Pueblo Audio ? |
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Post by Pueblo Audio on Jan 24, 2024 14:37:51 GMT -6
I vote cinder blocks too! Maybe sanded down and spray painted so the concrete dust doesn’t get everywhere. What’s the quilt stuffing do Pueblo Audio ? Helps control any resonances which may develop in the hollow of the chimney/column |
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