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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2023 17:18:04 GMT -6
My music preferences have seriously changed over the years, I still like metal when it peaks my interest and something new but I've been involved in a lot more modern music recently. I wouldn't mind having an original song crack at something in the style of this but I'm wondering what synths or recording styles etc. would get me in the same ball park?
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Post by Blackdawg on Dec 19, 2023 23:34:41 GMT -6
well most of that is all VI stuff. Which there is seemingly unlimited of those, I haven't been paying enough attention to whats the latest cool thing to use. Omnisphere was pretty cool back in the day idk if it's still a thing though. Probably the only really recorded thing was the voice. Then a ton of layers, repitched stuff, delays, ect.
Could be some hardware snyths like prophets and moog stuff and drum machines.
The other thing is productions like this are actually super lean, not very dense. Which is how they can make them feel more spacious and hit harder. Less stuff to take up headroom and being very meticulous with what if anything goes to a reverb and using delays more than anything.
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Post by explorer on Dec 20, 2023 4:55:45 GMT -6
Synth suggestions:
Xfer Serum
VPS Avenger
Lennardigital Sylenth
Uhe Hive & Diva
Vital (a good free option)
Drum samples:
Splice
Loopcloud
Vengeance EDM etc.
As said above, you’ve got to be careful with the mixdown. Be sure to filter out the lows on things that don’t need it, use lots of sidechaining to make space (plugins like LFOTool, Duck or Kickstart are the preferred way). Pay close attention to the length of sounds and reverb tails etc. Careful use of regular compression, limiting/clipping and OTT are also important. This is a loud style of music so you need to choose sounds and mix with that in mind.
There are lots of tutorials for this kinda stuff on YouTube etc
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2023 18:11:33 GMT -6
Thanks everyone I appreciate the input. Here's another one, it's the bass that really impresses me on this.. (Listen to this on PSI 23+, ATC 100 +'s or 59's, it's nuts).
P.S it shows the diff between Apple music and YT. The actual version you can hear the vocals clearly and the bass rattles the room..
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Post by Tbone81 on Dec 21, 2023 20:46:39 GMT -6
If you’re asking production advice here’s a few things (you may already know) that can help.
1) layer kicks, use something punchy for the attack and add another kick for the “boom”
2) usually the bass has more low end then the kick
3) sidechaining is your friend. Side chain a compressor or dynamic eq to cut low end from the bass when the kick hits. Side chain a compressor on the master buss (or an instrument bus) to the kick to get it to pump. Side chain a compressor on the vocal reverb to the vocals so that the verb ducks when the vocals are present.
4) layer reverbs and delays to get the right ambience.
5) lots of great VI’s but one or two cool HW synths go along way. On the cheap end the Novation bass station and some of the Arturia synths sound awesome.
6) record your own samples, especially for percussion. One shots are fine in most cases.
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Post by tkaitkai on Dec 24, 2023 13:35:57 GMT -6
Synth suggestions: Xfer Serum VPS Avenger Lennardigital Sylenth Uhe Hive & Diva Vital (a good free option) Drum samples: Splice Loopcloud Vengeance EDM etc. As said above, you’ve got to be careful with the mixdown. Be sure to filter out the lows on things that don’t need it, use lots of sidechaining to make space (plugins like LFOTool, Duck or Kickstart are the preferred way). Pay close attention to the length of sounds and reverb tails etc. Careful use of regular compression, limiting/clipping and OTT are also important. This is a loud style of music so you need to choose sounds and mix with that in mind. There are lots of tutorials for this kinda stuff on YouTube etc Came in to recommend all of these. Excellent suggestions. There are TONS of artist/producer preset packs for Serum and other popular synths. Get as many of these as you can. Would also recommend Arturia Pigments, reFX Nexus, and NI Massive/Massive 2. Best part about this genre is that the YT tutorials these days are insanely good quality. If you ever need to know how to make a synth sound or program a certain drum part, 99% chance someone already has a super in-depth video on it. I would also definitely get into remix stems and multitracks, there are tons of these floating around. You don't have to go the illicit route, either — many popular acts release them for remix purposes. Incredible resources for understanding how all the pieces fit together. Production tips: - Don't be afraid to use pre-made loops, especially top loops (shakers, hats, tambs, etc.). These help define the groove and keep it from sounding too stiff when you have a gridlocked kick/snare. - Modulation FX and automation are your biggest friends - Download production packs from Splice, especially stuff from Oliver, KSHMR, etc. Take advantage of EVERYTHING. If it's in one of those packs, you can almost bet it's custom-tailored for big productions - Vocal mics for this style vary, but it's typically 251, U47, C800G, Manley Ref C, U87, or SM7. Watch MWTM, Jaycen Joshua, and older Pensado's Place videos for vocal mixing tips. |
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