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You know what would be fun? Dec 18, 2023 15:12:51 GMT -6 bentley, ericn, and 5 more like this

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Post by jmoose on Dec 18, 2023 15:12:51 GMT -6

Dec 8, 2023 12:05:09 GMT -6 Johnkenn said:

Tracking some session guys with the cheapest equipment you could find. I'm really coming around to the thought that it's like 50% the song, 40% the player(s) and 10% the recording. Maybe a scarlet interface with a cheap mic for everything...Then mix it as good as you possibly can.

So you wanna be a live guy now? Be on the FOH deck and make board tapes?

That's essentially what they do! Show up with a pile of SM57's and get things working... I should know I spent a loooooong time doing just that.

Nothing is gonna get your engineering chops together faster then having to mix a band without a soundcheck in front of a packed house. Read an interview with CLA years ago where he said that was his background that taught him how to mix... and he's totally right its sink or swim. Great band, shitty band all the same you've got about 2 songs to pull a mix halfway together.

Maybe a dozen years a really good friend said "what happened to you? You've turned into an anti-gear gear snob"

It was the live gigs, but it was more specifically the live recording/production... getting into live broadcast and other direct to 2-track situations. Spending a handful of years as the production manger of a club with nationals coming through every week certainly didn't hurt either!

And while there's a few distinct memories, one real clincher was a tape I ran for Steve Kimock & his group off our clubs monitor desk almost as an afterthought but with intent... Kimock's an excellent guitarist & one of the most brilliant musicians I've ever worked with. Everyone was blown away by quality of that one and it made me start to question all the fancy pants gear...

Another was this one for Mike Farris (screaming cheetah wheelies) and his Lester Fury thing...

mooseaudio.bandcamp.com/track/apartment-323-live

Recorded live to 2-track off the club's FOH matrix. Pile of SM57's and a pair of Earthworks omnis about 20 feet over the stage into a Midas venice, dbx 166 compressors, reverb was PCM80... right onto to a fostex DAT machine in all its 16 bit glory.

No apologies for the way too loud guitar solo! Remember Mike hanging on my shoulder at soundcheck all pumped up - "When Kenny takes a solo you jam that in their ears! Make it louder! Cut their heads off!"

Fun times!! I get paid for this??!

Last Edit: Dec 18, 2023 15:14:57 GMT -6 by jmoose

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You know what would be fun? Dec 19, 2023 22:35:46 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by ericn on Dec 19, 2023 22:35:46 GMT -6

Dec 18, 2023 15:12:51 GMT -6 jmoose said:

Dec 8, 2023 12:05:09 GMT -6 Johnkenn said:

Tracking some session guys with the cheapest equipment you could find. I'm really coming around to the thought that it's like 50% the song, 40% the player(s) and 10% the recording. Maybe a scarlet interface with a cheap mic for everything...Then mix it as good as you possibly can.

So you wanna be a live guy now? Be on the FOH deck and make board tapes?

That's essentially what they do! Show up with a pile of SM57's and get things working... I should know I spent a loooooong time doing just that.

Nothing is gonna get your engineering chops together faster then having to mix a band without a soundcheck in front of a packed house. Read an interview with CLA years ago where he said that was his background that taught him how to mix... and he's totally right its sink or swim. Great band, shitty band all the same you've got about 2 songs to pull a mix halfway together.

Maybe a dozen years a really good friend said "what happened to you? You've turned into an anti-gear gear snob"

It was the live gigs, but it was more specifically the live recording/production... getting into live broadcast and other direct to 2-track situations. Spending a handful of years as the production manger of a club with nationals coming through every week certainly didn't hurt either!

And while there's a few distinct memories, one real clincher was a tape I ran for Steve Kimock & his group off our clubs monitor desk almost as an afterthought but with intent... Kimock's an excellent guitarist & one of the most brilliant musicians I've ever worked with. Everyone was blown away by quality of that one and it made me start to question all the fancy pants gear...

Another was this one for Mike Farris (screaming cheetah wheelies) and his Lester Fury thing...

mooseaudio.bandcamp.com/track/apartment-323-live

Recorded live to 2-track off the club's FOH matrix. Pile of SM57's and a pair of Earthworks omnis about 20 feet over the stage into a Midas venice, dbx 166 compressors, reverb was PCM80... right onto to a fostex DAT machine in all its 16 bit glory.

No apologies for the way too loud guitar solo! Remember Mike hanging on my shoulder at soundcheck all pumped up - "When Kenny takes a solo you jam that in their ears! Make it louder! Cut their heads off!"

Fun times!! I get paid for this??!

Excellent Moose, I’m going to add 2 thing about cutting your teeth live as a great learning experience.
First the instant feedback of the audience, you think the toms further out front than the snare is cool? The looks from the crowd are going to confirm or kill it in 5 seconds.
There is no going back, it is what it is you can’t go back and remix it for this crowd, make it or blow it you leave it behind when you leave the gig.

“Right now I need a Telecaster through a Vibrolux turned up to 10”
Memphis in the meantime by John Hiatt

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You know what would be fun? Dec 23, 2023 19:41:17 GMT -6

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Post by chessparov on Dec 23, 2023 19:41:17 GMT -6

First part of one take vocal clip is RAW.
Second/same vocal has MJUC Compression and a mild amount of Plate Reverb added.

EV 635a into UA Volt (Vintage on)
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plinker RGO Senior Member depth and transparency Posts: 1,663	You know what would be fun? Dec 23, 2023 21:16:37 GMT -6 chessparov and drumsound like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by plinker on Dec 23, 2023 21:16:37 GMT -6 "You know what would be fun?" A bag of cocaine and strippers. ...and a body that could withstand a bag of cocaine and strippers.

chessparov RGO Senior Member Posts: 6,633 Member is Online	You know what would be fun? Dec 24, 2023 0:46:08 GMT -6 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by chessparov on Dec 24, 2023 0:46:08 GMT -6 But not a student body...

You know what would be fun?

Post by jmoose on Dec 18, 2023 15:12:51 GMT -6

Post by ericn on Dec 19, 2023 22:35:46 GMT -6

Post by chessparov on Dec 23, 2023 19:41:17 GMT -6

Post by plinker on Dec 23, 2023 21:16:37 GMT -6

Post by chessparov on Dec 24, 2023 0:46:08 GMT -6