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Post by soundtech on Jul 4, 2023 8:43:03 GMT -6
This Svartbox was purchased in March of 2017 for a project that didn't materialize. When it arrived I did do an A to D - D to A pass through test and all was good. And it has been back in its original shipping box since.
It's difficult to put a value on it at this point. I'm going to ask US$650.00 obo and see where it goes.
It's located in Toronto, Canada. If buyer is in US, I can get it to Niagara Falls NY 14305, Buyer will be responsible for shipping from there.
Thanks for looking.
Paul Babiak
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Post by peterhess on Jul 4, 2023 10:18:02 GMT -6
I’m intrigued: can someone run down the Svartbox for me and maybe provide a few images? Connectivity, etc? Thanks- P
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Post by copperx on Jul 4, 2023 12:29:04 GMT -6
Yup. How many channels is it, and does it use ADAT or what connector?
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Post by winetree on Jul 4, 2023 13:00:59 GMT -6
I've have 2 of the Svart Boxes. They are stereo AD/DA converters. Stereo Spdif and analog, ins and outs, on balanced 1/4" phono jacks. Using one in the transfer room from tape, etc, to digital The other is for mixdown from the analog console. When I get up and running I'll compare the console output to the Converter return. They do 44/48 - 16/24 I'd have to check if others.   JDC SAID Sep 13, 2016 at 11:53am Johnkenn, svart, and 3 more like this QuotelikePost Options Post by jdc on Sep 13, 2016 at 11:53am So i've had this unit for almost a year now, and it's hard to overstate how important it has been to our workflow at the studio. Our first step was to place it as the monitoring DAC and compare it to the stock 16a converters. The differences were not subtle. The amount of clarity and depth with which you can hear into the mixes has made an immediate improvement in mixing decisions. It does what any good monitoring DAC should do and gets out of the way, it feels completely transparent, as if you are starting with a blank canvas. The phrase "surgical" comes to mind, but that would be too close to "sterile". Instead i think "neutral" is a better term, allowing you make choices without fighting with the conversion. The biggest differences I noticed were in the lower and higher frequencies. The low end felt more clear, less obscured and wooly when compared to the 16a, and the top felt open and accurate. The 16a's stock converters sounded muddy and clouded by comparison. This shouldn't be read as a knock on the 16a, it has been a great studio tool that I would recommend to everyone, this should read more as how great I think Svart's converter box is. It's an invaluable tool in our studio that gets used every day, once I think everyone should try in their studios because it has made an immediate difference in ours. Sound: Clear and transparent, perfect for monitoring, tracking, or making round trips from your DAW Functionality: Easy menu navigation, SPDIF connectivity (to use it with the 16a I convert to optical using these two converters: To Svartbox, From Svartbox) Value: I've used a BLA signature modded 002, the 16a, Ross Martin Superbeast II and PCM4222, and a Digi 192. This unit is far and away the best sounding converter i've used. It's more expensive on a per channel basis, but the time saved during the mixing process feels like it pays for itself. Overall: Would recommend. I only wish I had a second one. |
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Post by soundtech on Jul 4, 2023 19:32:16 GMT -6
Thank you winetree for your great description and photos.
I mistakenly assumed that the svartbox would be more well known on this forum.
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Post by svart on Jul 6, 2023 8:32:58 GMT -6
Thank you winetree for your great description and photos.
I mistakenly assumed that the svartbox would be more well known on this forum.
The threads have pretty much been buried by time. |
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Post by svart on Jul 6, 2023 9:13:47 GMT -6
Also BTW, if anyone has any questions about it that haven't been answered, I can answer them.
I'll also warranty second-hand units as much as parts are available.
So far only 2 have ever been back, one for the LCD backlight going out (not my fault) and one for a resistor soldering issue (my bad) so out of the 30 or so that exist in the world, they have a pretty great record for reliability even though I built every single one by hand from soldering all the parts to stamping/drilling the metal chassis.
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Post by copperx on Jul 6, 2023 13:51:20 GMT -6
Also BTW, if anyone has any questions about it that haven't been answered, I can answer them. I'll also warranty second-hand units as much as parts are available. So far only 2 have ever been back, one for the LCD backlight going out (not my fault) and one for a resistor soldering issue (my bad) so out of the 30 or so that exist in the world, they have a pretty great record for reliability even though I built every single one by hand from soldering all the parts to stamping/drilling the metal chassis. My only questions are: do they offer sampling rates above 48kHz, did you ever create multichannel units, and what was the philosophy behind them? Thanks! |
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Post by svart on Jul 6, 2023 14:57:07 GMT -6
Also BTW, if anyone has any questions about it that haven't been answered, I can answer them. I'll also warranty second-hand units as much as parts are available. So far only 2 have ever been back, one for the LCD backlight going out (not my fault) and one for a resistor soldering issue (my bad) so out of the 30 or so that exist in the world, they have a pretty great record for reliability even though I built every single one by hand from soldering all the parts to stamping/drilling the metal chassis. My only questions are: do they offer sampling rates above 48kHz, did you ever create multichannel units, and what was the philosophy behind them? Thanks! Bit depths: 16 and 24 Sample rates 44.1KHz to 192KHz I only made stereo versions as they were meant to be mastering-quality AD/DA for master mixdowns and monitoring. They featured extremely good clock oscillators running at up to 512fs. Probably 100x better than the ones in "high end" word clock sources. I ran the converters at maximum oversampling to use the least intrusive anti-aliasing filters. They used thin-film resistors and film caps in the audio path/filter and bipolar caps for DC blocking. The power supplies are highly decoupled and low noise LDO types on the ADC and point-of-source LDOs for the DAC for noise and isolation. Both feature 4 layer boards with ground, power and signal planes separated for lowest impedances. SPDIF is an interesting protocol. The data IS the clock, so you can use a SPDIF source to clock your interfaces and likely get higher quality clocking for lower-end interfaces even if you don't use the audio. |
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Post by teejay on Aug 5, 2023 14:53:38 GMT -6
Using mine as the front end to my RME Multiface II via S/PDIF. Love it. When I first heard it my reaction was similar to this:  And while I bought used and had an issue, Chris took care of it for me...so that's another +++ in my book. |
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Post by ericn on Aug 9, 2023 13:53:06 GMT -6
Savrt Box is a simple basic convert no frills, just Sonics in the same league as Mytek and Lavry.
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Post by Ward on Aug 9, 2023 14:13:58 GMT -6
any movement?
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Post by soundtech on Aug 30, 2023 21:41:40 GMT -6
I believe this is the classifieds section.....
Is no one interested in this unit? Any reasonable offer likely accepted.....
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