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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 18, 2023 18:02:52 GMT -6
Well, mic 1 was the BeesNeez and 2 was the Flea.
We ended up using the Flea on the vocal. The BeesNeez was used on the acoustic guitar and Farfisa, which you’ll hear once we wrap the song.
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Post by sean on Jun 18, 2023 18:06:17 GMT -6
Well, mic 1 was the BeesNeez and 2 was the Flea. We ended up using the Flea on the vocal. The BeesNeez was used on the acoustic guitar and Farfisa, which you’ll hear once we wrap the song. I love this answer so much. Now people are going to tell you turn return your Beesneez because something is “clearly wrong with it” |
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Post by chessparov on Jun 18, 2023 18:17:15 GMT -6
Mic placement?
LOL!
Chris
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 18, 2023 18:17:21 GMT -6
Well, mic 1 was the BeesNeez and 2 was the Flea. We ended up using the Flea on the vocal. The BeesNeez was used on the acoustic guitar and Farfisa, which you’ll hear once we wrap the song. I love this answer so much. Now people are going to tell you turn return your Beesneez because something is “clearly wrong with it” For sure. 😂😂 Let’s get ahead of that now. I’ve been using the BeesNeez for voiceover work with great success over the past couple weeks and the stereo image on the Farfisa is killer. Very, very happy with the purchase with the pair. Definitely no issues. Want to check out that 67 now!! Funny thing, I did the initial scratch vocal a few weeks ago using a BeesNeez Lulu FET mic. With some ITB processing that I slapped on the scratch, it’s actually pretty close in sound to the Flea that I tracked here. Definitely much closer than the 87. First time ever tracking a vocal with a SDC and was hugely impressed. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 18, 2023 18:19:28 GMT -6
Close. Had a Rycote pop filter attached to the mount and she was close to that. Also a reflection filter about a foot behind the mic to try and make the best of our untreated living room/control room. 😂😂 |
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Post by chessparov on Jun 18, 2023 20:56:58 GMT -6
Grasshopper here asks...
I'm curious how improved the Mic #1 clip might get, with further vocal processing?
(I just don't know/am not a good judge)
Thanks, Chris
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Post by paulcheeba on Jun 18, 2023 23:32:13 GMT -6
There is something strange going on here though. I could imagine an F7 sounding muffled as I’ve had some myself but that is obviously either a good one or does this one have the F47 capsule? Also how did you make the 87 sound so bad?
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Post by bradd on Jun 19, 2023 9:18:26 GMT -6
I've heard 47 style clones that sound muffled, but my Flea 47 with the F7 capsule isn't one of them.
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Post by ragan on Jun 19, 2023 9:27:39 GMT -6
Just listened, I liked Mic 1 better.
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Post by christopher on Jun 19, 2023 13:26:34 GMT -6
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 19, 2023 15:40:18 GMT -6
There is something strange going on here though. I could imagine an F7 sounding muffled as I’ve had some myself but that is obviously either a good one or does this one have the F47 capsule? Also how did you make the 87 sound so bad? I have EF12 with F7 capsule. |
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Post by paulcheeba on Jun 19, 2023 19:30:36 GMT -6
Well I have 4 brand new F7’s for sale. See how good they sound I’ve been trying to tell y’all.
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Post by tkaitkai on Jun 21, 2023 13:51:58 GMT -6
Listened blind — I actually liked the BU87 more. Pretty surprising, because I would expect to prefer the 47.
I can see why some think the BU87 sounds muffled, but to me, the Flea sounds a bit too brash on her voice. I could EQ the BU87 to be brighter, but I'd probably struggle to get the Flea sounding less strident.
Not trying to diss the Flea, btw — it's obviously a killer mic. I'd actually love to own one. Just wouldn't be my choice in this particular case. But hey, we all hear things differently.
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Post by paulcheeba on Jun 21, 2023 15:43:00 GMT -6
That’s why I go with the Fleasneez. The K7 caps in the Flea 47 sound’s sublime.
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Post by christopher on Jun 21, 2023 23:32:08 GMT -6
I also played around with the Flea sample thru the same EQ, same settings and some low mids. It really brought out the 47 low end for that round familiar thing. Mids and highs smooth and easy on the ear. Definitely left me feeling quite impressed. Which I’d hope so for that price tag. Both could work imo, the Flea clearly had an extra 47 thing
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Post by ragan on Jun 21, 2023 23:59:14 GMT -6
Listened blind — I actually liked the BU87 more. Pretty surprising, because I would expect to prefer the 47. I can see why some think the BU87 sounds muffled, but to me, the Flea sounds a bit too brash on her voice. I could EQ the BU87 to be brighter, but I'd probably struggle to get the Flea sounding less strident. Not trying to diss the Flea, btw — it's obviously a killer mic. I'd actually love to own one. Just wouldn't be my choice in this particular case. But hey, we all hear things differently. Same. Mic 2 sounds too harsh to me in this case, the very upper mids are sticking out at me. Mic 1 sounds smooth and sculptable/useable. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jul 4, 2023 11:26:03 GMT -6
Well, here it is in the mix. This is the Flea on lead vocals, plus tambo in the verse and chorus. BeesNeez BU87i on Farfisa, acoustic and electric guitars, background vocals, shaker and tambo in the bridge. Bass was DI only. This is the first song that my GF and I wrote together and it's our first release. Here's the link: rosegoldglasses.bandcamp.com/track/never-let-me-go |
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Post by Chad on Jul 9, 2023 21:15:24 GMT -6
That’s why I go with the Fleasneez. The K7 caps in the Flea 47 sound’s sublime. Paul, do you have an opinion about a Thiersch Blueline PVC M7? I have a brand new Blue line and I’m thinking of replacing my F7 in the Flea 47 Vintage I own just to get more value out of that mic. My RMS Audioworks M49b has a Blueline PVC M7 in it (plus AC701), and that thing sounds like thunder on the low end and is silky smooth in the top end. I wouldn’t change a thing. My hope is that the Thiersch PVC cap would be a major upgrade in my Flea 47. |
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Post by paulcheeba on Jul 9, 2023 21:30:40 GMT -6
That’s why I go with the Fleasneez. The K7 caps in the Flea 47 sound’s sublime. Paul, do you have an opinion about a Thiersch Blueline PVC M7? I have a brand new Blue line and I’m thinking of replacing my F7 in the Flea 47 Vintage I own just to get more value out of that mic. My RMS Audioworks M49b has a Blueline PVC M7 in it (plus AC701), and that thing sounds like thunder on the low end and is silky smooth in the top end. I wouldn’t change a thing. My hope is that the Thiersch PVC cap would be a major upgrade in my Flea 47. Hi Chad, I personally think it would be an improvement as they offer it as an upgrade anyway and it is a very open sounding capsule. It works wonders in the Myburgh M1, Nordic and the BSA mics. There is over a years wait for them now. I fortunately bought a bunch a few years ago and have 47 heads with red and blue Thiersch capsules for when I need them. The Beesneez K7 bridges the gap nicely to the Neumann K49 which has a different curve again. |
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Post by OtisGreying on Jul 9, 2023 22:15:06 GMT -6
That’s why I go with the Fleasneez. The K7 caps in the Flea 47 sound’s sublime. I also went this route on Paul’s recommendation and much prefer the sound of the BeesNeez K7 in my flea to the stock F7, which is sitting in a little plastic case. K7 sounds much balanced to my ear and a lot more finished, I found the F7 to sound darker and tubbier. |
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Post by bricejchandler on Jul 9, 2023 23:44:32 GMT -6
Paul, do you have an opinion about a Thiersch Blueline PVC M7? I have a brand new Blue line and I’m thinking of replacing my F7 in the Flea 47 Vintage I own just to get more value out of that mic. My RMS Audioworks M49b has a Blueline PVC M7 in it (plus AC701), and that thing sounds like thunder on the low end and is silky smooth in the top end. I wouldn’t change a thing. My hope is that the Thiersch PVC cap would be a major upgrade in my Flea 47. Hi Chad, I personally think it would be an improvement as they offer it as an upgrade anyway and it is a very open sounding capsule. It works wonders in the Myburgh M1, Nordic and the BSA mics. There is over a years wait for them now. I fortunately bought a bunch a few years ago and have 47 heads with red and blue Thiersch capsules for when I need them. The Beesneez K7 bridges the gap nicely to the Neumann K49 which has a different curve again. With all the talk about Beezneez Capsules, I'm wondering if anyone has heard or used the Beezneez Tribute 1 U47 clone? My TAB 47 with Wagner capsule was lost ( stolen ) by UPS a while back and I've been looking to get back into 47 territory. |
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Post by mics on Jul 10, 2023 0:03:23 GMT -6
Hi Chad, I personally think it would be an improvement as they offer it as an upgrade anyway and it is a very open sounding capsule. It works wonders in the Myburgh M1, Nordic and the BSA mics. There is over a years wait for them now. I fortunately bought a bunch a few years ago and have 47 heads with red and blue Thiersch capsules for when I need them. The Beesneez K7 bridges the gap nicely to the Neumann K49 which has a different curve again. With all the talk about Beezneez Capsules, I'm wondering if anyone has heard or used the Beezneez Tribute 1 U47 clone? My TAB 47 with Wagner capsule was lost ( stolen ) by UPS a while back and I've been looking to get back into 47 territory. Hi guys! As you can appreciate, the capsule is 95% of the sound of any mic. The T1 uses a 1940’s ef13 steel tube which adds about another 3% of the sound, the balance comes from the paper in oil capacitor and the bv08 transformer. It will get you as close as any other u47 is to another. The main difference with the T1 is that is has 9 patterns and a non resonant head grille. These additions make the mic as useable as an M49 with the 47 signature. It is really difficult to find a used T1 on the market because they are a keeper! Cheers |
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Post by Chad on Jul 10, 2023 4:45:27 GMT -6
Paul, do you have an opinion about a Thiersch Blueline PVC M7? I have a brand new Blue line and I’m thinking of replacing my F7 in the Flea 47 Vintage I own just to get more value out of that mic. My RMS Audioworks M49b has a Blueline PVC M7 in it (plus AC701), and that thing sounds like thunder on the low end and is silky smooth in the top end. I wouldn’t change a thing. My hope is that the Thiersch PVC cap would be a major upgrade in my Flea 47. Hi Chad, I personally think it would be an improvement as they offer it as an upgrade anyway and it is a very open sounding capsule. It works wonders in the Myburgh M1, Nordic and the BSA mics. There is over a years wait for them now. I fortunately bought a bunch a few years ago and have 47 heads with red and blue Thiersch capsules for when I need them. The Beesneez K7 bridges the gap nicely to the Neumann K49 which has a different curve again. Thanks, Paul! Appreciate that input. 👍🏻 |
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