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Post by drumsound on Feb 21, 2023 21:37:19 GMT -6
Echo was the brand, Event just distributed. Echo great sounding box for the time great price, crappy support and QC. It did sound good. Mine never gave me problems, and we didn't have a lot come back to the store. We didn't do the volume you did up there in Wisconsin though. After Adats? Mbox very briefly. Cheers, Geoff I never owned the ADATS I worked on, luckily. First thing with A/D/D/A in it that I bought for myself would have been an ADAT LX20. We had Blackface ADATs and XT-20s at Overdub, and then John Plymale bought a ProTools TDM rig with 3 888s. After a few albums, I sold my ADAT and got a Digi 001 so I could do edits and comp tracks at home. That Digi 001 had some kind of grounding problem: the moment you plugged in the cable, the card made a grinding, chirping, squealing kind of noise. But hey, I still got work done. I didn't know you worked with Plymale. I really liked hanging out with him back in the Tape Op Con days. |
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Post by ericn on Feb 21, 2023 22:04:06 GMT -6
Echo great sounding box for the time great price, crappy support and QC. It did sound good. Mine never gave me problems, and we didn't have a lot come back to the store. We didn't do the volume you did up there in Wisconsin though. After Adats? Mbox very briefly. Cheers, Geoff I never owned the ADATS I worked on, luckily. First thing with A/D/D/A in it that I bought for myself would have been an ADAT LX20. We had Blackface ADATs and XT-20s at Overdub, and then John Plymale bought a ProTools TDM rig with 3 888s. After a few albums, I sold my ADAT and got a Digi 001 so I could do edits and comp tracks at home. That Digi 001 had some kind of grounding problem: the moment you plugged in the cable, the card made a grinding, chirping, squealing kind of noise. But hey, I still got work done. I didn't know you worked with Plymale. I really liked hanging out with him back in the Tape Op Con days. You get what you pay for! I think besides QC the biggest issue was Event / Rode at the time didn’t understand how to support Echo, nor did they want to invest in developing a real support system. It was the Wild West, everyone wanted a PT TDM rig, nobody wanted to spend the money. Even if someone wanted a turnkey system they didn’t understand the labor of building something around Echo was going to be higher than a TDM rig because we knew what was and wasn’t going to work with TDM. |
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Post by the other mark williams on Feb 21, 2023 22:07:20 GMT -6
First thing with A/D/D/A in it that I bought for myself would have been an ADAT LX20. We had Blackface ADATs and XT-20s at Overdub, and then John Plymale bought a ProTools TDM rig with 3 888s. After a few albums, I sold my ADAT and got a Digi 001 so I could do edits and comp tracks at home. That Digi 001 had some kind of grounding problem: the moment you plugged in the cable, the card made a grinding, chirping, squealing kind of noise. But hey, I still got work done. I didn't know you worked with Plymale. I really liked hanging out with him back in the Tape Op Con days. Yeah, John was always really fun -- and a good storyteller! It had been Wes and John working at Overdub for a few years, and I'd been producing clients I would bring in. Usually, I worked with Wes. Wes started teaching me the engineering side because I was really interested in learning everything I could. I was just a sponge. One night, the young woman's album that I was producing and Wes was engineering wasn't going very well. The client was getting frustrated and Wes was getting frustrated. So Wes pulled out his keys, slapped them on the console, looked at me and said, "OK, this your gig now. I'm going home. Lock up when you're done." A couple weeks later, he told me he wanted to design studios full time and only engineer 3-4 albums a year, and asked if I would come on. It was a great opportunity. One that I was really too young and too green for in retrospect. But man, I learned a lot over the next few years there. |
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Feb 21, 2023 22:23:54 GMT -6
That Digi 001 had some kind of grounding problem: the moment you plugged in the cable, the card made a grinding, chirping, squealing kind of noise. But hey, I still got work done. So many things like that. But my attitude (and maybe all of us) was "I've gotta make sure this doesn't ruin the song" as opposed to "I must fix this problem." In this way I think the internet is as much curse as blessing. It's awesome that you can eventually find the answer for any problem. But it's probably better mindset to have the attitude of "welp, I can't figure it out but I can't hear it in the mix so... moving on." Or even... "I can't figure it out so I guess we'll just have to not use that part, song still sounds good without it." Or whatever. I was much more outcome focused in those days and that was probably a good thing. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 21, 2023 23:29:20 GMT -6
Same as svart. Then an mbox 1 followed closely by a 002 rack. Then a Tascam FW1884. |
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Post by aremos on Feb 22, 2023 2:55:57 GMT -6
After Tascam M16 tape machine & then ADATs (black & silver):
Apogee PSX-100 (still in use!)
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Post by tasteliketape on Feb 22, 2023 3:24:09 GMT -6
Some cheap PC soundcard on a PC I built with MS DOS installed. Can you say crash after crash after driver conflict after driver conflict !!!!! Not fun times !
Bought a G4 and Digi 002 and thought I hit the big time .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2023 3:41:57 GMT -6
Motu 2408 mk2 in the year 2000 - i remember the high end being slightly harsh (or maybe it was user error)..
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Post by wiz on Feb 22, 2023 5:29:08 GMT -6
First sound card... hmmmm...... I am guessing soundblaster... and I remember MQX something or other...
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Post by linas on Feb 22, 2023 5:33:59 GMT -6
First soundcard - PC soundcard. Not sure whether it was an integrated chip on a mobo or a cheap dedicated card.
First real interface that I worked with - something from RME. Then we got a Babyface for our studio and then I bought Rode AI-1 for myself. Then got Steinberg UR212 aaand RME Babyface Pro FS. Thinking about my next interface.
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Post by drumsound on Feb 22, 2023 8:49:48 GMT -6
I didn't know you worked with Plymale. I really liked hanging out with him back in the Tape Op Con days. Yeah, John was always really fun -- and a good storyteller! It had been Wes and John working at Overdub for a few years, and I'd been producing clients I would bring in. Usually, I worked with Wes. Wes started teaching me the engineering side because I was really interested in learning everything I could. I was just a sponge. One night, the young woman's album that I was producing and Wes was engineering wasn't going very well. The client was getting frustrated and Wes was getting frustrated. So Wes pulled out his keys, slapped them on the console, looked at me and said, "OK, this your gig now. I'm going home. Lock up when you're done." A couple weeks later, he told me he wanted to design studios full time and only engineer 3-4 albums a year, and asked if I would come on. It was a great opportunity. One that I was really too young and too green for in retrospect. But man, I learned a lot over the next few years there. That's a very cool story. I'm not sure if you been to The Fideltorium, that Wes designed, but it is an amazing sounding control room. |
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Post by brimmy on Feb 22, 2023 10:35:22 GMT -6
Apogee Duet Firewire!  |
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Post by trakworxmastering on Feb 22, 2023 10:48:42 GMT -6
Digidesign 888 I/O. 1995. Not a great sounding box, so replaced with Apogee AD-8000 when that came out in 1998. Later - 192 I/Os, then Burl Mothership.
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Post by brenta on Feb 22, 2023 10:58:43 GMT -6
Digi001.
Since it was a PCI card it couldn't be used with a desktop. At first I didn't have a studio, so I would haul around my 001, desktop computer, two monitors, and a ton of mics, preamps, and XLR cables, and set up in bands'/artists' practice spaces, houses, or apartments, and record them there. It usually took a few hours just to unload and get everything hooked up. Kids don't know how good they have it these days with laptops and USB interfaces!
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Post by mcirish on Feb 22, 2023 11:09:08 GMT -6
Let's take a minute to be grateful for what we have! Sure, technology is frustrating and the companies that make it are even more frustrating at times. Sure, the robots are going to steal our jobs. But think of how far we've come! So what was your first AD/DA? Mine was the M-Audio Delta 66 and man was it great! Don't get me wrong. It was impossible to use, impossible to configure, and I had no idea what any of the settings meant and probably did some very weird stuff on the recordings I made with it. But I could afford it and I could hook our old Mackie board up for some submixes and get plenty of channels. And those pre-amps? Head room for days!!!! (Or so I thought at the time.) I just recently read the Sound On Sound review for the Delta 66 which I remember reading at the time that I bought it. It's pretty funny. A converter noise level of -96db. That was a feature! Best part is the package cost about $700 in 2002 money which would be like $1200 now I think. So the cost of an Apollo x4 basically. Wow. Ha! Mine was a M Audio Delta 1010. This thread is going to quickly date people... Mine was also the Delta 1010. I thought it was amazing at the time... until i got a Lynx 2C and that was great till I got a Yamaha/Steinberg MR816 firewire interface... which was never good until I got a Lynx Aurora 16, which is still great till I can afford a Lynx Aurora (n). This sure is an expensive habit. |
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Post by drbill on Feb 22, 2023 11:27:22 GMT -6
Digidesign 442. Look it up..... |
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Post by teejay on Feb 22, 2023 11:30:39 GMT -6
Digidesign 442. Look it up..... The only 442 I remember is the Cutlass. |
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Post by winterland on Feb 22, 2023 11:54:27 GMT -6
Digidesign 888 I/O. 1995. Not a great sounding box, so replaced with Apogee AD-8000 when that came out in 1998. Later - 192 I/Os, then Burl Mothership. Almost the same except Digidesign 442 to 888 to Apogee Ad-8000 to 192 to Uad X16. All the Adats mixed in though out the years. I sure wish computer recording hardware kept its value or appreciated like guitars and great microphones. Darn it. Attachments:
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Post by drbill on Feb 22, 2023 12:19:07 GMT -6
Digidesign 442. Look it up..... The only 442 I remember is the Cutlass. Hahaaaa!! The Cutlass was way preferable.... |
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Post by teejay on Feb 22, 2023 12:40:06 GMT -6
Oh if we go back before interfaces, an old Kmart rectangular cassette deck with a built in mic. Then one of the first Fostex cassette 4 tracks and then a nicer Yamaha 4 track that had effect sends on it. I'll take the bait on the pre-interface, Greg. Soundesign combo turntable, stereo, recordable 8-track player. Figured out I could plug a speaker (later headphones) into the Aux in on the back, use it as a rudimentary microphone and record to an 8-track cassette. Someone said something about dating themselves?  |
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Post by ab101 on Feb 22, 2023 12:47:58 GMT -6
Lynxone
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Feb 22, 2023 13:01:46 GMT -6
Oh if we go back before interfaces, an old Kmart rectangular cassette deck with a built in mic. Then one of the first Fostex cassette 4 tracks and then a nicer Yamaha 4 track that had effect sends on it. I'll take the bait on the pre-interface, Greg. Soundesign combo turntable, stereo, recordable 8-track player. Figured out I could plug a speaker (later headphones) into the Aux in on the back, use it as a rudimentary microphone and record to an 8-track cassette. Someone said something about dating themselves? Tascam PortaStudio as a Xmas gift in 9th grade. Upgraded to the 424mkii a year later and I said for the first time “this is all I’ll ever need.” |
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Post by jaba on Feb 22, 2023 13:48:59 GMT -6
First real AD converter after standard sound cards was the EMU 1820m.
Did me well for several years. Can't really complain about that thing at all.
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Post by srb on Feb 22, 2023 19:19:03 GMT -6
MOTU 2408 mki.
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Post by Mark Kano on Feb 22, 2023 20:04:34 GMT -6
I didn't know you worked with Plymale. I really liked hanging out with him back in the Tape Op Con days. Yeah, John was always really fun -- and a good storyteller! It had been Wes and John working at Overdub for a few years, and I'd been producing clients I would bring in. Usually, I worked with Wes. Wes started teaching me the engineering side because I was really interested in learning everything I could. I was just a sponge. One night, the young woman's album that I was producing and Wes was engineering wasn't going very well. The client was getting frustrated and Wes was getting frustrated. So Wes pulled out his keys, slapped them on the console, looked at me and said, "OK, this your gig now. I'm going home. Lock up when you're done." A couple weeks later, he told me he wanted to design studios full time and only engineer 3-4 albums a year, and asked if I would come on. It was a great opportunity. One that I was really too young and too green for in retrospect. But man, I learned a lot over the next few years there. John is the best! He recorded my old band’s first ep in 1995. Spent quite a bit of time at The Dub!! Original Digidesign Mbox for me btw. |
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