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Post by rob61 on Feb 1, 2023 8:28:27 GMT -6
Tons of keyboards, organs, synths around the studio but my son now has interest in guitar (they introduce that at school). I have a full size Washburn kicking around the studio, but it is too large for him. I know Fender, Yamaha, et al make 3/4 size starter guitars. Any suggestions or tips on finding something for an 8 year old who wants to learn guitar?
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Post by gwlee7 on Feb 1, 2023 8:32:48 GMT -6
Those little $150ish Yamahas are great. They play easy and sound good.
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Post by svart on Feb 1, 2023 8:36:04 GMT -6
Tons of keyboards, organs, synths around the studio but my son now has interest in guitar (they introduce that at school). I have a full size Washburn kicking around the studio, but it is too large for him. I know Fender, Yamaha, et al make 3/4 size starter guitars. Any suggestions or tips on finding something for an 8 year old who wants to learn guitar? I'd suggest going to a place like a Music Go Round or other used music store and letting them pick it out (if they have something in the right size). They typically have pretty decent deals on cheap used gear. Get the guitar set up fairly low action so that kiddo can easily fret the strings. I suggest this as we all know kids interest tends to wax and wane pretty quickly when skill-based hobbies that take a while before satisfaction can be had are concerned...
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Post by ericn on Feb 1, 2023 10:39:38 GMT -6
Savart beat me to it. With an 8 year old the attention span isn’t worth a large investment, at the same time if you are really trying to encourage them you need them to have a an attachment. It’s all about the set up. I’ll bet a $150 used kid’s guitar from Music go Round is set up better than a New Les Paul at GC!
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Post by Ward on Feb 1, 2023 12:04:09 GMT -6
The Squire Mini-Strat has worked for my youngest 3 children.
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Post by notneeson on Feb 1, 2023 12:19:42 GMT -6
The Squire Mini-Strat has worked for my youngest 3 children. Same, except I have fewer children.
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Post by Ward on Feb 1, 2023 12:31:27 GMT -6
The Squire Mini-Strat has worked for my youngest 3 children. Same, except I have fewer children. I'm holding at 5. LOL
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Post by keymod on Feb 1, 2023 16:02:59 GMT -6
I bought the Squire Mini-strat for my nephew several years back, and it was a big hit. He's still playing, has a bunch of other guitars, keyboards, drums, etc. I think I started something.....
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Post by ericn on Feb 1, 2023 16:45:39 GMT -6
The Squire Mini-Strat has worked for my youngest 3 children. When my now 18 year old was about 7 I walked into GC asked if they could discount a Epiphone SG amp package I was Told “ no we can’t, nobody will. “ “ Challenge excepted!” So while I was there made a phone call to umm “Jeff” explained the situation and that in 30 sec he could cancel the order because I was in the mood to screw GC. Tapped the dude on the shoulder showed him the invoice at 15% below big big dealer cost tapped on their we will beat any invoice by 10% policy bought it at 25 below cost, called Jeff back told him there was a very very pissed GC dude and manager 😁 It’s nice having friends, took it to the local MI dealer told them the story and they had the top set up guy set it up for free. Lesson number 1 don’t piss me off?
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Feb 1, 2023 17:18:00 GMT -6
The Gretsch Gin Ricky. Killer little guitar that both of you can play. I forget what the one without the pickup is called, but you can save a few bucks there. Under $200 though.
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Post by plinker on Feb 1, 2023 20:44:06 GMT -6
The Taylor Big Baby is what I bought my teenager. It sounds really good, and has a shallow body -- otherwise, it's sized like a regular dreadnought.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 4, 2023 9:40:01 GMT -6
I taught guitar to kids for 30 years, and i've seen everything, literally everything!
Get the 3/4 size Yamaha. It tunes OK and sounds OK. It's not a toy. No need at all to go for the small Martin or Taylor.
DO NOT get the Taylor Big Baby. I've seen dozens of them, every single one without exception had neck issues, and no matter how many times they were adjusted, they went wonky after a couple of months.
Look at two Yamaha's to compare if you can, pick the winner and go home happy. Use D'Addario 11's for strings and have the store adjust the action for them if needed, 12's are kind of heavy for a kid.
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Post by thehightenor on Feb 4, 2023 15:03:12 GMT -6
The only issue I have recommending those mini Strat's is, having such a short scale, they are notorious for not staying in tune.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 4, 2023 15:28:34 GMT -6
The mini Strats have wonky necks, don't stay in tune either.
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Post by johneppstein on Feb 4, 2023 16:06:18 GMT -6
Savart beat me to it. With an 8 year old the attention span isn’t worth a large investment, at the same time if you are really trying to encourage them you need them to have a an attachment. It’s all about the set up. I’ll bet a $150 used kid’s guitar from Music go Round is set up better than a New Les Paul at GC! As far as learning, the starter method used is EXTREMELY inportant. Most of the common ones suck from a kiid's viewpoint. nThe one I recommend may or may not be in print right now, but if not it's bworth chasing a co9py thru the online booksellers. The book is: The Folksinger's Guitar Guide by Jerry Silverman (originally from Oak Publications) and it uses a hybrid method, starting with fingering a D and a 2-finger A7 and playing as song with that. Instant gratification. That also introduces the concepts of the Tonic and Dominant chords, laying the groundwork for basic theory and easy transpositions, all in one painless and hopefully fun package It also teaches fingerpicking and various folk styles, including both blues and bluegrass. Looks like used copies are running around $15.00 now.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 4, 2023 19:23:17 GMT -6
I teach online. I developed my own teaching method over decades. There are many great guitarists who teach, but they are not necessarily good teachers.
My teaching method is called Music is a Language. I used to hold seminars at The Learning Annex back when that was a thing. I was able to show people enough in three hours to help avoid common errors that usually affect their progress negatively and ultimately lead to their putting the guitar under the bed or in a closet for a decade.
When you are a baby, you learn to speak by imitating sounds. In time, you form words, small sentences and then full sentences. It's a a few years before you begin to actually read.
I teach people to play first, (same as speaking), along the way, basic music theory enters, in a simple way, like teaching 2 + 2 equals 4. Tablature enables beginners to learn to read basic notes in 10-15 minutes. Once a student can play their favorite songs reasonably well, if there is interest, learning to decipher dots on a page isn't so difficult.
Also, almost every book I've ever seen jumps ahead way too fast, causing anxiety and confusion. My method takes much smaller steps and in fact, works faster because I've mapped out a straight line. So, going slow and steady produces better results, it's like the tortoise and the hare story.
Beginners taught the wrong way who work hard, become very good mistake players. I've taught 5 year olds to play in months, taught autistic kids to play, and helped senior citizens to enjoy playing, something they never believed they could do.
There's nothing to sign up for, no obligations, hit me up, try a couple of lessons, and see if that works.
martin@martinbutlermusic.com
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Post by gwlee7 on Feb 4, 2023 19:35:01 GMT -6
Martin, me being in education for over 30 years tells me your method is solid. I bet the kids love it. I taught deadheads to play by showing them “Ripple”. You would think I was God.
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