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Post by pouletdegrains on Jan 20, 2023 20:34:00 GMT -6
That situation is gold Kcatt - no worries is..... no worries. I still run PT 10 on Snow leopard with a MH ULN 2 and a Prism Titan over Adat and it works every time however the computor (2010 Mac Pro) is about to be retired to remote duties only (it has never dropped it's load but needs a new battery and am putting in an SSD as well) hence my interest in these new machines with all the questions and possible s**t fights that raises. The ULN 2 is firewire and while it's been terrific , is bettered by others so retirement there too. Can I achieve the same reliability? - that is the question. As to the M2 , I have 2 screens, so will probably go with a mini as the single core performance is improved as is the memory bandwidth and people such as Wiz are using the old one successfully. Cheers, Ross Can’t metric halo update it to the new converters and usb/Ethernet? You can always just use the Prism Titan over usb on your new computer. Their drivers are Rosetta compatible. beta.prismsound.com/support/faq/Prism Sound sold their interface business and Sadie to Tracktion, who rebranded as Audio Squadron, and the real “Prism Sound” is now “Spectral Measurement” and only makes “affordable” (compared to an Audio Precision) audio analyzers. www.mixonline.com/the-wire/prism-sound-test-measurement-relaunches-as-spectral-measurementSo I don’t know how well they’ll be supported from now on. I’m using an Apogee Symphony Desktop that’s rock solid on Windows and Mac. I can recommend Lynx too. RME had some pains with Apple over recent usb changes in MacOS but they fixed them. Any of those interfaces over USB (or thunderbolt) into your Prism Titan over adat would be very powerful rig. Metric Halo has sadly cut compatibility with the newest MacOS and M1/M2 architecture for the 2D FireWire interfaces (as it is tied to the 32-bit MIO console software). Upgrading to a 3D Ethernet/USB card is expensive now (more than 1200$) even if the 3D software is still in beta. I will put my LIO-8 (with add-on preamps) for sale, something I would have never imagined doing.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 20, 2023 21:02:17 GMT -6
Drag.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2023 21:37:30 GMT -6
Can’t metric halo update it to the new converters and usb/Ethernet? You can always just use the Prism Titan over usb on your new computer. Their drivers are Rosetta compatible. beta.prismsound.com/support/faq/Prism Sound sold their interface business and Sadie to Tracktion, who rebranded as Audio Squadron, and the real “Prism Sound” is now “Spectral Measurement” and only makes “affordable” (compared to an Audio Precision) audio analyzers. www.mixonline.com/the-wire/prism-sound-test-measurement-relaunches-as-spectral-measurementSo I don’t know how well they’ll be supported from now on. I’m using an Apogee Symphony Desktop that’s rock solid on Windows and Mac. I can recommend Lynx too. RME had some pains with Apple over recent usb changes in MacOS but they fixed them. Any of those interfaces over USB (or thunderbolt) into your Prism Titan over adat would be very powerful rig. Metric Halo has sadly cut compatibility with the newest MacOS and M1/M2 architecture for the 2D FireWire interfaces (as it is tied to the 32-bit MIO console software). Upgrading to a 3D Ethernet/USB card is expensive now (more than 1200$) even if the 3D software is still in beta. I will put my LIO-8 (with add-on preamps) for sale, something I would have never imagined doing. Anything comparable will cost you more than 1200 and not be physically upgradable. Honestly RME has the best long term support but the sound isn’t good on the non ADI-2 Pro line. You could do worse though than something like a Babyface Pro FS into your Prism Titan via adat.
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Post by reddirt on Jan 22, 2023 4:49:15 GMT -6
Just trying to brain pick here ........ Are the extra 2 CPU cores and double memory bandwidth the M2 pro comes with over the basic M2, likely to be major players in what we all do?
Cheers, Ross
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 22, 2023 5:35:30 GMT -6
I still get confused about what actually uses the multiple cores for max processing ?
I know Logic has a setting for it.
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Post by OtisGreying on Jan 22, 2023 19:53:46 GMT -6
So just to report back on Audiogridder - I know not the topic of this thread but I feel this program pretty much makes CPU bottlenecks for producer/mixers pretty much a non starter.....
I've connected my MBP 2021 M1 max with an M1 mini and can pretty much go insane with the plugin DSP that's available, audiogridder was a little finicky to set up but now im starting to get it very seamlessly into my workflow. You can pretty much have like 15 extra extremely CPU intensive plugins going on highest possible oversampling if you want without CPU hits to the main DAW. Pretty fantastic. If anyone were looking for more CPU horsepower investing in a new computer for 10% cpu single core gain is not going to nearly touch the power of this program, I recommend all to try it
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Post by dok on Jan 22, 2023 20:54:18 GMT -6
So just to report back on Audiogridder - I know not the topic of this thread but I feel this program pretty much makes CPU bottlenecks for producer/mixers pretty much a non starter.....
I've connected my MBP 2021 M1 max with an M1 mini and can pretty much go insane with the plugin DSP that's available, audiogridder was a little finicky to set up but now im starting to get it very seamlessly into my workflow. You can pretty much have like 15 extra extremely CPU intensive plugins going on highest possible oversampling if you want without CPU hits to the main DAW. Pretty fantastic. If anyone were looking for more CPU horsepower investing in a new computer for 10% cpu single core gain is not going to nearly touch the power of this program, I recommend all to try it
I'm trying to imagine the possibilities of connecting two Studio Ultras together via Audiogridder, not that you'd probably need to.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 23, 2023 7:49:50 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 23, 2023 7:51:17 GMT -6
So just to report back on Audiogridder - I know not the topic of this thread but I feel this program pretty much makes CPU bottlenecks for producer/mixers pretty much a non starter.....
I've connected my MBP 2021 M1 max with an M1 mini and can pretty much go insane with the plugin DSP that's available, audiogridder was a little finicky to set up but now im starting to get it very seamlessly into my workflow. You can pretty much have like 15 extra extremely CPU intensive plugins going on highest possible oversampling if you want without CPU hits to the main DAW. Pretty fantastic. If anyone were looking for more CPU horsepower investing in a new computer for 10% cpu single core gain is not going to nearly touch the power of this program, I recommend all to try it
I'm trying to imagine the possibilities of connecting two Studio Ultras together via Audiogridder, not that you'd probably need to. Why not, NASA does?
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Post by ericn on Jan 23, 2023 16:49:05 GMT -6
So just to report back on Audiogridder - I know not the topic of this thread but I feel this program pretty much makes CPU bottlenecks for producer/mixers pretty much a non starter.....
I've connected my MBP 2021 M1 max with an M1 mini and can pretty much go insane with the plugin DSP that's available, audiogridder was a little finicky to set up but now im starting to get it very seamlessly into my workflow. You can pretty much have like 15 extra extremely CPU intensive plugins going on highest possible oversampling if you want without CPU hits to the main DAW. Pretty fantastic. If anyone were looking for more CPU horsepower investing in a new computer for 10% cpu single core gain is not going to nearly touch the power of this program, I recommend all to try it
As cool as the concept of linking computers is, in the audio world we learned the lesson that the power returns are hard to justify vs costs. Simply adding cores really seams like a spec sheet vs real world power war. What we really need is the people writing our OS’s to develop a simple more efficient invisible way of utilizing the power of multiple cores. This should not be on the developers of our software and plugins.
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