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Post by noob on Dec 23, 2022 13:18:42 GMT -6
Hey guys, noob here.
Looking for your thoughts on studio monitors in the $3.5k price range. I already own Presonus S8's and Amphion One15's, but looking to replace the S8's with a new 3-way. I'm looking for a monitor that will be accurate, precise, not lack low end, and be able to hype up a client with a good mix (which the One15's can't do as well). I also don't want to have to buy a sub. My room is around 13' x 11.5' - looking for any insight or advice anyone can offer. If I can find a way to demo some of these before buying, I will definitely be doing that. Right now, I am leaning towards the footprint 02's.
Here's what I'm considering:
1) Barefoot Footprint 02 - From what I've heard, these sound great and could be a good counterpart to my One15's.
2) Neumann KH310 (would have to find them used, or save up more to afford them)
3) PMC Result6 Active - Interested in what you guys think about these, how are they compared to the Footprints?
4) Dynaudio LYD 48
5) Focal Shape Twin Dual
Any wisdom is very appreciated, thank you!
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Post by drumsound on Dec 23, 2022 13:39:53 GMT -6
I had a set custom made by a local guy. 3-way with ribbon mid and tweeter in a dipole design with a sealed sub. Triamped and controlled by an outboard. If you're willing to do some work with tuning the DSP with his help, they are amazing. DM me for details.
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Post by noob on Dec 23, 2022 14:15:03 GMT -6
That's very interesting and probably sounds amazing, but I'd rather not get too customized at this point. In case I need to trade anything in or want to sell them at any point. At this point, I'd rather hear anyone's thoughts on the ones I mentioned, or if you have any other suggestions for monitors in that price range, let me know! Thanks a ton for your input, I'll definitely get in touch if I ever want to take that route.
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Post by the other mark williams on Dec 23, 2022 15:52:18 GMT -6
Hey guys, noob here. Looking for your thoughts on studio monitors in the $3.5k price range. I already own Presonus S8's and Amphion One15's, but looking to replace the S8's with a new 3-way. I'm looking for a monitor that will be accurate, precise, not lack low end, and be able to hype up a client with a good mix (which the One15's can't do as well). I also don't want to have to buy a sub. My room is around 13' x 11.5' - looking for any insight or advice anyone can offer. If I can find a way to demo some of these before buying, I will definitely be doing that. Right now, I am leaning towards the footprint 02's. Here's what I'm considering: 1) Barefoot Footprint 02 - From what I've heard, these sound great and could be a good counterpart to my One15's. 2) Neumann KH310 (would have to find them used, or save up more to afford them) 3) PMC Result6 Active - Interested in what you guys think about these, how are they compared to the Footprints? 4) Dynaudio LYD 48 5) Focal Shape Twin Dual Any wisdom is very appreciated, thank you! I’ve got the KH310s and really like them a lot. For the budget you’re talking about, I think they’re difficult to beat. And actually, I got them new for very, very close to your price from ProAudioStar. Both them and Alto Music have open box specials fairly often if you watch Reverb. But in the “impress the client with loud, in-your-face boom/bap,” I would think the S8s would be doing a pretty decent job of that already? And btw, welcome to RGO! |
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Post by noob on Dec 23, 2022 16:17:37 GMT -6
Hey guys, noob here. Looking for your thoughts on studio monitors in the $3.5k price range. I already own Presonus S8's and Amphion One15's, but looking to replace the S8's with a new 3-way. I'm looking for a monitor that will be accurate, precise, not lack low end, and be able to hype up a client with a good mix (which the One15's can't do as well). I also don't want to have to buy a sub. My room is around 13' x 11.5' - looking for any insight or advice anyone can offer. If I can find a way to demo some of these before buying, I will definitely be doing that. Right now, I am leaning towards the footprint 02's. Here's what I'm considering: 1) Barefoot Footprint 02 - From what I've heard, these sound great and could be a good counterpart to my One15's. 2) Neumann KH310 (would have to find them used, or save up more to afford them) 3) PMC Result6 Active - Interested in what you guys think about these, how are they compared to the Footprints? 4) Dynaudio LYD 48 5) Focal Shape Twin Dual Any wisdom is very appreciated, thank you! I’ve got the KH310s and really like them a lot. For the budget you’re talking about, I think they’re difficult to beat. And actually, I got them new for very, very close to your price from ProAudioStar. Both them and Alto Music have open box specials fairly often if you watch Reverb. But in the “impress the client with loud, in-your-face boom/bap,” I would think the S8s would be doing a pretty decent job of that already? And btw, welcome to RGO! Thanks for your response! To answer your question, yes the S8's are great for that, but I wanted to also get a pair that would be more accurate overall just a step up from the S8's. I really love my S8's, but I know there are better ones out there. Planning on selling them after I upgrade, so I am definitely looking for a 3-way that can fill that void, without feeling bad about losing them. I'm kind of worried about the KH310's being too clinical, which is why I was leaning towards the Barefoots, I've heard really good things about the low end on the BF's. |
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Post by ericn on Dec 23, 2022 18:07:04 GMT -6
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Post by noob on Dec 23, 2022 18:33:34 GMT -6
Those looks awesome, I actually used to use them at a studio I worked at. I don't see any available online though, if so I might be interested ! |
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Post by ericn on Dec 23, 2022 19:05:33 GMT -6
Those looks awesome, I actually used to use them at a studio I worked at. I don't see any available online though, if so I might be interested ! H208 is the older model they are wide where the VH series is tall. Same drivers and alignment. |
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Post by phdamage on Dec 23, 2022 19:10:38 GMT -6
I got the LYDs maybe just under a year ago and am really digging them. I will ad a caveat that sonarworks drops my output quite a bit to correct my room (maybe 11dB) I frequently had my monitor controller dimed if the client wanted it loud.
I went ahead and grabbed their sub to go with it and I have a bit more wiggle room now.
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Post by Quint on Dec 23, 2022 19:22:34 GMT -6
Damn, I wish this deal had been around when I bought my KH310s. |
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Post by tasteliketape on Dec 23, 2022 19:28:18 GMT -6
There was a pair of Barefoot mm45’s on the purple sire for 3500$
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Post by noob on Dec 23, 2022 20:00:16 GMT -6
There was a pair of Barefoot mm45’s on the purple sire for 3500$ I would love a pair of MM45's, that's a great price. What is purple sire? |
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Post by the other mark williams on Dec 23, 2022 21:52:09 GMT -6
There was a pair of Barefoot mm45’s on the purple sire for 3500$ I would love a pair of MM45's, that's a great price. What is purple sire? "Purple Site" = "GearS----" It's a long story.  |
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Post by the other mark williams on Dec 23, 2022 22:04:44 GMT -6
I’ve got the KH310s and really like them a lot. For the budget you’re talking about, I think they’re difficult to beat. And actually, I got them new for very, very close to your price from ProAudioStar. Both them and Alto Music have open box specials fairly often if you watch Reverb. But in the “impress the client with loud, in-your-face boom/bap,” I would think the S8s would be doing a pretty decent job of that already? And btw, welcome to RGO! Thanks for your response! To answer your question, yes the S8's are great for that, but I wanted to also get a pair that would be more accurate overall just a step up from the S8's. I really love my S8's, but I know there are better ones out there. Planning on selling them after I upgrade, so I am definitely looking for a 3-way that can fill that void, without feeling bad about losing them. Fair enough. From what I've heard about the Spectre S8s, they can sound impressively wide and punchy for clients. And hey, there's a real place for that. I'm kind of worried about the KH310's being too clinical, which is why I was leaning towards the Barefoots, I've heard really good things about the low end on the BF's. This is an entirely subjective and personal call - you may indeed prefer the Barefoots (Barefeet?). And there's certainly no such thing as a perfect monitor for everyone - the KH310s included. But in my time with the KH310s, I would never describe them as "clinical." I personally find them quite enjoyable to listen to, and very much non-fatiguing. Accurate without making me feel like I'm performing a rectal exam on a mix. I certainly think there are better monitors out there, but those other monitors probably cost more money. My other choice in this mid-tier price bracket would probably be the Dyn LYD48s. For the money, I really don't think you'd go wrong with either pair. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2022 22:08:54 GMT -6
Hmmm, tough one.. The KH310's are great mixing tools but they're also quite dry and accurate which doesn't always make for good client monitors. Although they might appreciate the depth and clarity? Who knows. My Core 59's are dry as well but I just turn up the bass on my mixer if I want to rock out..
The LYD's can be more impressive but they lack a bit in terms of LMF clarity, still they are excellent monitors. I don't like Focals, Barefoots are nice but I sold my alt pair when I bought the Core's. I'd demo the KH310's and Footprints, see what works for you..
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2022 22:15:46 GMT -6
Accurate without making me feel like I'm performing a rectal exam on a mix. Lol, that's an apt description.. That's what higher end monitors tend to do, they give you a butt load of information whether it's needed, wanted, necessary or not  ..
Some are definitely more helpful in regards to finding issues than others though.
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Post by noob on Dec 24, 2022 11:14:07 GMT -6
Hmmm, tough one.. The KH310's are great mixing tools but they're also quite dry and accurate which doesn't always make for good client monitors. Although they might appreciate the depth and clarity? Who knows. My Core 59's are dry as well but I just turn up the bass on my mixer if I want to rock out.. The LYD's can be more impressive but they lack a bit in terms of LMF clarity, still they are excellent monitors. I don't like Focals, Barefoots are nice but I sold my alt pair when I bought the Core's. I'd demo the KH310's and Footprints, see what works for you.. Thank you for your input. I'm definitely leaning towards Barefoots. From what I've read they are more appealing as a replacement to S8's. I feel like my One15's already do the clinical work I'd be doing on the Neumanns. I messaged the guy on purple site for those $3.5k MM45's, but right now I'm pretty sure it's a compromised account/scam. That price is insane, and he's acting weird. Now I'm thinking maybe I'll save up for a few more months and try to get MM45's, because I am super intrigued by the sound of Barefoots. I might pull the trigger on a new pair of 02's soon, though, not sure yet. |
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Post by RealNoob on Dec 24, 2022 13:24:11 GMT -6
The LYD 48s sound familiar with more detail and air, coming from S8's. They are fairly full in the LMR like the S8's. I use the same sub I had with the S8's, cheap MAudio that's 10 years old or more but I only allow the sub to hit 50 and below. I let the tops run full range. Feels very natural compared to the typical 80hz crossover to both.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Dec 24, 2022 14:14:21 GMT -6
I know some folks here aren’t super keen on them, but I love my Barefoot Footprint 01.
I don’t like using a sub and I also don’t like ported cabinets. They go low enough for me to hear what I need, sound stage is excellent, love the slightly forward mid thing they’ve got going on. I honestly describe them as what yamaha would do if they took the ns-10, gave them enough low tight bottom, kept the mids, and had super badass detail up top without being tiring to listen to all day.
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Post by thehightenor on Dec 24, 2022 16:19:01 GMT -6
I'm not keen on the Focals or Nuemann's - I personally can't trust what those monitors are telling me - 310's too polite and a bit too soft for my ears - Focal's are too bright for me. Other people of course love them - there's almost nothing more subjective than studio monitors. I've not tried the Core's but Shadowk rates then highly so I'd definitely demo a pair of those if you have the buget. I'm considering a pair of the cheaper Dynaudio's for my writing room. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2022 16:34:42 GMT -6
Dynaudio BM6a. I don’t like the Lyds that much and haven’t heard the Cores.
Hedd 20
Barefoots sound great but translation isn’t the best
Used Quested h108 or h208. Great sound and translate. Do not pay loser reverb prices.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2022 16:36:30 GMT -6
I'm not keen on the Focals or Nuemann's - I personally can't trust what those monitors are telling me - 310's too polite and a bit too soft for my ears - Focal's are too bright for me. I've not tried the Core's but Shadowk rates then highly so I'd definitely demo a pair of those. I'm considering a pair of cheaper Dynaudio's for my writing room. Yeah Focals are now either way too bright or underwater sounding. I don’t like the translation of the tweeters in their monitors. The old Solo 6 and CMS are beyond muddy too. People are talking about Dynaudio low mids here like they’re a problem. Focal tends to be that x 10. |
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Post by thehightenor on Dec 24, 2022 16:41:25 GMT -6
I'm not keen on the Focals or Nuemann's - I personally can't trust what those monitors are telling me - 310's too polite and a bit too soft for my ears - Focal's are too bright for me. I've not tried the Core's but Shadowk rates then highly so I'd definitely demo a pair of those. I'm considering a pair of cheaper Dynaudio's for my writing room. Yeah Focals are now either way too bright or underwater sounding. I don’t like the translation of the tweeters in their monitors. The old Solo 6 and CMS are beyond muddy too. People are talking about Dynaudio low mids here like they’re a problem. Focal tends to be that x 10. Before I got the ATC 25's I had some 0300's and before that some Focal Twins for a little while and they seemed to be very muddy in the low end - underwater is a very good description. |
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Post by bchurch on Dec 24, 2022 16:48:11 GMT -6
If you can keep a keen eye out, it's within the realm of possibility to snag a pair of Hedd Type 20's for $3500. They're a compact 3-way that not only give you a really nice, detailed, and accurate response, but they can also belt it out for those trap/drill-type clients.
I use Avantone Abbey Pro's at about 1.5m that are either really small for a 3-way monitor or really big/heavy for a 2-way and they can go really deep. Only problem is they don't do those 110db+ client-pummeling SPL's.
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Post by noob on Dec 24, 2022 18:58:33 GMT -6
The Hedd Type 20's and the quested h208's are definitely intriguing to me. Wish I could find a pair of those H208's. I'll have to keep an eye out, thanks!
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