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Post by tkaitkai on Dec 23, 2022 9:26:18 GMT -6
OK, so it's actually more than just a Lavry emulation, but whatever. This thing rules.
Been playing around with this the past few days, and man... it's crazy good. Definitely does the whole "high end ADC being clipped" thing extremely well. Try it on 'Platinum Maker' mode, ceiling set to True Peak, and the highest oversampling your system can handle. Shit is gooooooood.
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Post by bossanova on Dec 23, 2022 13:19:54 GMT -6
1. Interesting idea. 2. Man…Acustica has really gone off of the rails. I know G says they do what they need to cater to the modern market, but they put out 1-2 new plugs a month, don’t have the time or resources to maintain and fix errors in the existing catalog like they used to, and have gotten cagey about the extent to which their newer “hyper” plugs are still based in convolution vs other methods. But I’m not them, and I’m not in the audio tech business,  |
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Post by tkaitkai on Dec 23, 2022 13:49:52 GMT -6
1. Interesting idea. 2. Man…Acustica has really gone off of the rails. I know G says they do what they need to cater to the modern market, but they put out 1-2 new plugs a month, don’t have the time or resources to maintain and fix errors in the existing catalog like they used to, and have gotten cagey about the extent to which their newer “hyper” plugs are still based in convolution vs other methods. But I’m not them, and I’m not in the audio tech business, Yeah I think Acustica have some wacky coding issues and overall strange business practices for sure, but I think the trade off is their plugins always sound really, really good. I could never justify the CPU hit to use something like Sand on every channel, but on the stereo bus it makes perfect sense. This is one of their best, IMO. |
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Post by Darren Boling on Dec 24, 2022 20:22:12 GMT -6
I've been testing Ash vs some other clippers. Was reminded of the mantra: Acustica, best when only reducing a coulpla (dB's).
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Post by Ted Swan on Dec 25, 2022 18:57:43 GMT -6
Definitely interesting.
So there's some discussion over at the purple place and in their Facebook group concerning their approach to this one. Here's a quick summary as I understand it:
Acustica didn't model each converters' imperfections (their words) so no preamp for any of the units. Not sure I fully get their philosophy on this one. They did say that they modeled the saturation curves of the Lavry's soft saturation options.
So they were asked if they modeled the Lavry without the soft saturation and they both said they hadn't, and also, that the knee set fully hard was the same.
Naturally that was confusing cause they either modeled hitting the front end hard, or not. And it sounds like they didn't. Especially because they didn't want the preamp sound of the units. Oh and they also said that the hard clipping in each of the modeled units is essentially identical...
So basically, it doesn't seem like a complete ITB clipped Lavry Gold if you were hoping for it. Which honestly is odd since I sort of thought those "imperfections" were sort of their thing.
Anyway, that's not to say Ash isn't useful or unique, just not what some people thought it was going to be.
For example, I can think of a couple of mixers who hit the front end hard and never use the soft saturation of the Gold. This plugin likely won't give an approximation of the Lavry tone or clipping when used this way.
Cheers!
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Post by soundintheround on Dec 26, 2022 6:41:02 GMT -6
1. Interesting idea. 2. Man…Acustica has really gone off of the rails. I know G says they do what they need to cater to the modern market, but they put out 1-2 new plugs a month, don’t have the time or resources to maintain and fix errors in the existing catalog like they used to, and have gotten cagey about the extent to which their newer “hyper” plugs are still based in convolution vs other methods. But I’m not them, and I’m not in the audio tech business, Yeah I think Acustica have some wacky coding issues and overall strange business practices for sure, but I think the trade off is their plugins always sound really, really good. I could never justify the CPU hit to use something like Sand on every channel, but on the stereo bus it makes perfect sense. This is one of their best, IMO. Yeh i agree acustica stuff sounds good and can be useful during final mixdowns or mastering, but for use during any real production…there stuff is pretty bad. CPU hit, latency, weird quirks with the plugins and coding bugs/etc |
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