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Post by therealkey on Mar 17, 2024 13:18:21 GMT -6
Has anyone tried this C-80 out against some other small-yet heavy hitters like the Chandler-L mic? I heard that Chandler-L is something SERIOUS!
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Post by doubledog on Mar 20, 2024 14:55:58 GMT -6
I don't have a C-80 but I've been using the crap out of the Type L since I got it. With the Type A/B switch it's kinda like 2 mics in one and I've been finding use for both settings.
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Post by therealkey on May 13, 2024 17:15:20 GMT -6
About a year out and I'm surprised there hasn't been more talk about this mic. Everyone that's gotten one has loved it so far, yet I don't see many comparisons against other mics. I would imagine someone with the main shootouts to be against other mics in the price range or form factor, but also against the flagship C800G. Hopefully more content comes out soon!
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Post by aremos on May 13, 2024 19:12:31 GMT -6
About a year out and I'm surprised there hasn't been more talk about this mic. Everyone that's gotten one has loved it so far, yet I don't see many comparisons against other mics. I would imagine someone with the main shootouts to be against other mics in the price range or form factor, but also against the flagship C800G. Hopefully more content comes out soon! A/B'd (compared) to a C-800G, when it came out, & the only similarity was the name. |
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Post by therealkey on May 14, 2024 10:50:00 GMT -6
About a year out and I'm surprised there hasn't been more talk about this mic. Everyone that's gotten one has loved it so far, yet I don't see many comparisons against other mics. I would imagine someone with the main shootouts to be against other mics in the price range or form factor, but also against the flagship C800G. Hopefully more content comes out soon! A/B'd (compared) to a C-800G, when it came out, & the only similarity was the name. Really? Not even the forward voicing that Sony advertises for the mic or its tonality or how it sits in the mix? That's a shame if so. I just bought one for what I would feel is a decent price since up until about now, everyone that I've spoken with that picked one up loves theirs. I personally just haven't seen many comparisons. Currently using a Chandler REDD (people have said it sounds like a U47 x C800G crossover) when at home, but for on the go, this seemed like it could be a solid option to have a ballpark approximation of the C800G in a VERY compact, solid-state, travel-friendly build. That being said, I'd love to hear your thoughts, elaborating on that observation. Sound demos if you still have them as well please! |
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Post by aremos on May 14, 2024 11:02:22 GMT -6
A/B'd (compared) to a C-800G, when it came out, & the only similarity was the name. Really? Not even the forward voicing that Sony advertises for the mic or its tonality or how it sits in the mix? That's a shame if so. I just bought one for what I would feel is a decent price since up until about now, everyone that I've spoken with that picked one up loves theirs. I personally just haven't seen many comparisons. Currently using a Chandler REDD (people have said it sounds like a U47 x C800G crossover) when at home, but for on the go, this seemed like it could be a solid option to have a ballpark approximation of the C800G in a VERY compact, solid-state, travel-friendly build. That being said, I'd love to hear your thoughts, elaborating on that observation. Sound demos if you still have them as well please! Now the REDD is a totally different story! It definitely comes close to (or in the ballpark of) the C-800G. It doesn't have anything, I find, relatable to a U-47. Definitely keep the Chandler. |
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Post by ericn on May 14, 2024 11:08:01 GMT -6
A/B'd (compared) to a C-800G, when it came out, & the only similarity was the name. Really? Not even the forward voicing that Sony advertises for the mic or its tonality or how it sits in the mix? That's a shame if so. I just bought one for what I would feel is a decent price since up until about now, everyone that I've spoken with that picked one up loves theirs. I personally just haven't seen many comparisons. Currently using a Chandler REDD (people have said it sounds like a U47 x C800G crossover) when at home, but for on the go, this seemed like it could be a solid option to have a ballpark approximation of the C800G in a VERY compact, solid-state, travel-friendly build. That being said, I'd love to hear your thoughts, elaborating on that observation. Sound demos if you still have them as well please! This where the world of mics can get kind of ugly, he didn’t say it was bad, just that next to its Brethen that goes for 5x to 10x the price it didn’t match up, & why would Sony even think of a mic at this price match’s up with the C8000? Sure it’s the same capsule but that amp and transformer are going to have some influence on the sound. To me it’s no different than a U47 vs a 47fet or a C12 compared to a C414, there is lineage and then there is reality. |
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Post by therealkey on May 14, 2024 11:22:37 GMT -6
Really? Not even the forward voicing that Sony advertises for the mic or its tonality or how it sits in the mix? That's a shame if so. I just bought one for what I would feel is a decent price since up until about now, everyone that I've spoken with that picked one up loves theirs. I personally just haven't seen many comparisons. Currently using a Chandler REDD (people have said it sounds like a U47 x C800G crossover) when at home, but for on the go, this seemed like it could be a solid option to have a ballpark approximation of the C800G in a VERY compact, solid-state, travel-friendly build. That being said, I'd love to hear your thoughts, elaborating on that observation. Sound demos if you still have them as well please! This where the world of mics can get kind of ugly, he didn’t say it was bad, just that next to its Brethen that goes for 5x to 10x the price it didn’t match up, & why would Sony even think of a mic at this price match’s up with the C8000? Sure it’s the same capsule but that amp and transformer are going to have some influence on the sound. To me it’s no different than a U47 vs a 47fet or a C12 compared to a C414, there is lineage and then there is reality. I'm not really expecting the mic to match up per se, but as an example, for only about $300 more (albeit far less portable but still 1/10th the price of the flagship in question) the AA CM800T has had a great reputation for being a solid representation of the C800G. Similar to how the TLM103 is treated as the U87-lite or U87-ToGo in certain situations. I was also looking at the Chandler L mic as a portable option, but started with the Sony first. It's had great reviews up until now, one of the most portable options compared to the competition, and for the price I got mine, much less of a financial risk than a TLM 103, Chandler L, or even the Soyuz 1973. The Lauten LS-208 is however still on my shortlist for this same application. |
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Post by therealkey on May 14, 2024 11:29:42 GMT -6
Really? Not even the forward voicing that Sony advertises for the mic or its tonality or how it sits in the mix? That's a shame if so. I just bought one for what I would feel is a decent price since up until about now, everyone that I've spoken with that picked one up loves theirs. I personally just haven't seen many comparisons. Currently using a Chandler REDD (people have said it sounds like a U47 x C800G crossover) when at home, but for on the go, this seemed like it could be a solid option to have a ballpark approximation of the C800G in a VERY compact, solid-state, travel-friendly build. That being said, I'd love to hear your thoughts, elaborating on that observation. Sound demos if you still have them as well please! Now the REDD is a totally different story! It definitely comes close to (or in the ballpark of) the C-800G. It doesn't have anything, I find, relatable to a U-47. Definitely keep the Chandler. Thanks! I definitely plan to if I can. I've also actually placed an order for the Stam SA-47 mk3 as well as their new SA-800G to keep in the studio. High hopes for those, and if anything I'll attempt to try and get the incoming C-80 to at least match that SA-800G probably using a 2 or 3 slot portable 500 series rack in combination with some plugins on the input channel. We'll see how that goes. I'd still need to hunt for a solid 500 series chain following this! Haha |
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Post by aremos on May 14, 2024 11:33:54 GMT -6
Really? Not even the forward voicing that Sony advertises for the mic or its tonality or how it sits in the mix? That's a shame if so. I just bought one for what I would feel is a decent price since up until about now, everyone that I've spoken with that picked one up loves theirs. I personally just haven't seen many comparisons. Currently using a Chandler REDD (people have said it sounds like a U47 x C800G crossover) when at home, but for on the go, this seemed like it could be a solid option to have a ballpark approximation of the C800G in a VERY compact, solid-state, travel-friendly build. That being said, I'd love to hear your thoughts, elaborating on that observation. Sound demos if you still have them as well please! This where the world of mics can get kind of ugly, he didn’t say it was bad, just that next to its Brethen that goes for 5x to 10x the price it didn’t match up, & why would Sony even think of a mic at this price match’s up with the C8000? Sure it’s the same capsule but that amp and transformer are going to have some influence on the sound. To me it’s no different than a U47 vs a 47fet or a C12 compared to a C414, there is lineage and then there is reality. What a a way with words, thanks Eric! |
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Post by ericn on May 14, 2024 12:26:13 GMT -6
This where the world of mics can get kind of ugly, he didn’t say it was bad, just that next to its Brethen that goes for 5x to 10x the price it didn’t match up, & why would Sony even think of a mic at this price match’s up with the C8000? Sure it’s the same capsule but that amp and transformer are going to have some influence on the sound. To me it’s no different than a U47 vs a 47fet or a C12 compared to a C414, there is lineage and then there is reality. What a a way with words, thanks Eric! We try, my friend we try. |
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Post by ericn on May 14, 2024 12:33:53 GMT -6
This where the world of mics can get kind of ugly, he didn’t say it was bad, just that next to its Brethen that goes for 5x to 10x the price it didn’t match up, & why would Sony even think of a mic at this price match’s up with the C8000? Sure it’s the same capsule but that amp and transformer are going to have some influence on the sound. To me it’s no different than a U47 vs a 47fet or a C12 compared to a C414, there is lineage and then there is reality. I'm not really expecting the mic to match up per se, but as an example, for only about $300 more (albeit far less portable but still 1/10th the price of the flagship in question) the AA CM800T has had a great reputation for being a solid representation of the C800G. Similar to how the TLM103 is treated as the U87-lite or U87-ToGo in certain situations. I was also looking at the Chandler L mic as a portable option, but started with the Sony first. It's had great reviews up until now, one of the most portable options compared to the competition, and for the price I got mine, much less of a financial risk than a TLM 103, Chandler L, or even the Soyuz 1973. The Lauten LS-208 is however still on my shortlist for this same application. Guys I know who have tried the AA are in absolute agreement it has the Tone of the Sony like nothing else, but they are also frustrated by the AA because it again nails the color, but when next to the Sony they find it lacks that last bit of detail. Now again let’s talk price and bang for the buck you won’t beat the AA. A couple of guys I know are waiting for the modders to get Smart and start buying up used C80’s and harvest the capsules ( Sony sell’s them as parts but if a dealer is moving capsules in numbers they will require serial #s). |
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Post by oneroomstudio on Oct 12, 2024 11:40:17 GMT -6
Just to head off this internet rumor, the C80 and the C800g DO NOT use the same capsule. Not even close. The C800g famously uses a center-terminated, K67-style capsule. The C80 uses an edge-terminated capsule that is closer to a K89-style (but not the same). Both nice capsules, but “harvesting” C80 capsules to make C800g clones doesn’t make any sense.
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Post by ericn on Oct 12, 2024 22:33:08 GMT -6
Just to head off this internet rumor, the C80 and the C800g DO NOT use the same capsule. Not even close. The C800g famously uses a center-terminated, K67-style capsule. The C80 uses an edge-terminated capsule that is closer to a K89-style (but not the same). Both nice capsules, but “harvesting” C80 capsules to make C800g clones doesn’t make any sense. Thanks for clarification, I hate to be wrong, my source was a Sony rep. But his lips were moving so I should have known better.☹️ |
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Post by griffinpb on Oct 13, 2024 16:00:45 GMT -6
I quite like the Sony C-80 and C-100, but the main consideration that separates the C-80 from the C-100 is value proposition for me. The C-80 fits my criteria for cost-performance more and is a good mic at any price, whereas the C-100 isn't on my shortlist of something to acquire unless I get a fantastic deal on it. I'm more interested in a Sanken for that dual diaphragm design topology if I'm breaking the $1000 price barrier. The C-80 is a good clean mic and it's on my shortlist for favorite LDC mics that I've heard under $500, especially in the clean camp. That market is just so competitive in that price bracket that it's understandable why the C-80 didn't make a huge splash, even though it rightfully should imo.
*EDIT* I'm seeing C-80's on eBay new for around $350 USD with free shipping from Japan, a very nice value proposition indeed.
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Post by ericn on Oct 13, 2024 17:33:03 GMT -6
I quite like the Sony C-80 and C-100, but the main consideration that separates the C-80 from the C-100 is value proposition for me. The C-80 fits my criteria for cost-performance more and is a good mic at any price, whereas the C-100 isn't on my shortlist of something to acquire unless I get a fantastic deal on it. I'm more interested in a Sanken for that dual diaphragm design topology if I'm breaking the $1000 price barrier. The C-80 is a good clean mic and it's on my shortlist for favorite LDC mics that I've heard under $500, especially in the clean camp. That market is just so competitive in that price bracket that it's understandable why the C-80 didn't make a huge splash, even though it rightfully should imo.
*EDIT* I'm seeing C-80's on eBay new for around $350 USD with free shipping from Japan, a very nice value proposition indeed.
You can pretty much find the same deal in the US if patient. I was about to grab one but all of a sudden I have found a couple of very special mics used that I need to put some cash away for. |
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Post by chessparov on Oct 13, 2024 17:50:17 GMT -6
Is the “so called” Customer Service any better?  The various anecdotes soured me, over the years. Chris |
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Post by griffinpb on Oct 13, 2024 17:57:34 GMT -6
I quite like the Sony C-80 and C-100, but the main consideration that separates the C-80 from the C-100 is value proposition for me. The C-80 fits my criteria for cost-performance more and is a good mic at any price, whereas the C-100 isn't on my shortlist of something to acquire unless I get a fantastic deal on it. I'm more interested in a Sanken for that dual diaphragm design topology if I'm breaking the $1000 price barrier. The C-80 is a good clean mic and it's on my shortlist for favorite LDC mics that I've heard under $500, especially in the clean camp. That market is just so competitive in that price bracket that it's understandable why the C-80 didn't make a huge splash, even though it rightfully should imo.
*EDIT* I'm seeing C-80's on eBay new for around $350 USD with free shipping from Japan, a very nice value proposition indeed.
You can pretty much find the same deal in the US if patient. I was about to grab one but all of a sudden I have found a couple of very special mics used that I need to put some cash away for. Yeah, that's the tricky part about gear. So much great stuff out there, but the imagination tends to be captured by only a few items at a time. Sometimes rooted in pragmatic selection, other times romantic. Still, the C-80 is one I wouldn't mind adding to my collection if opportunity arises at some point in the future. |
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Post by ericn on Oct 13, 2024 18:55:49 GMT -6
Is the “so called” Customer Service any better? The various anecdotes soured me, over the years. Chris Sony, customer service? I shall put it this way, with Sony Pro Audio & over 30 years of dealing with them, if after purchase service is important, buy from a dealer who goes the extra mile. If pro audio is still part of broadcast, Most dealers not deep in pro video will have no clout. Plus it’s Sony I’m really happy the C80 and other mics haven’t been discontinued yet! |
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Post by chessparov on Oct 13, 2024 19:04:09 GMT -6
If they just only came out with the “C4”… Their business would explode!  |
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Post by ericn on Oct 13, 2024 19:41:33 GMT -6
If they just only came out with the “C4”… Their business would explode! Umm Chris my friend SE has a C4 SDC 😁 Though in its day the Valley Dyno-MITE pretty much exploded all over the market, no racks were hurt😎 |
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Post by plinker on Oct 13, 2024 20:20:21 GMT -6
Having taken a few months off from RGO...I'm really impressed that this thread has been resurrected. I just made a "fuck you" offer on Reverb for one of these We'll see what happens.... |
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Post by ericn on Oct 13, 2024 20:23:31 GMT -6
Having taken a few months off from RGO...I'm really impressed that this thread has been resurrected. I just made a "fuck you" offer on Reverb for one of these We'll see what happens.... Now now the low ball offer is “ ah what the Fuck” offer, the “fuck you offer “ is the seller countering with 1 cent below asking 😁 |
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Post by griffinpb on Oct 13, 2024 21:48:05 GMT -6
Having taken a few months off from RGO...I'm really impressed that this thread has been resurrected. I just made a "fuck you" offer on Reverb for one of these We'll see what happens.... Sending blessings for the offensive lowball, may the spirit of "$20 and I drive to you" be with you |
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Post by plinker on Oct 14, 2024 7:48:59 GMT -6
Having taken a few months off from RGO...I'm really impressed that this thread has been resurrected. I just made a "fuck you" offer on Reverb for one of these We'll see what happens.... Now now the low ball offer is “ ah what the Fuck” offer, the “fuck you offer “ is the seller countering with 1 cent below asking 😁 😅Indeed! I stand corrected. The asking price was $400. I offered $350 and got it. Definitely more of a “ah WTF” offer. |
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