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Post by christophert on Dec 19, 2022 2:27:04 GMT -6
I have some samples made in my live room with many different kits, and they blend in well for layering with drums on new sessions.
It also helps the blending as the drums are mostly recorded with the same front end.
One thing I always do is check the phase and transients on every single hit - even ghost notes.
I don't trust any of the retriggering plug ins.
Weird phase anomalies and smearing of some hits.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 19, 2022 12:26:31 GMT -6
I’ve never thought about using something like auto align on a snare and a sample - maybe I’ll try that. Even though they’re not the same sound, I bet you could use that to shape the tone a bit.
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Post by bgrotto on Dec 19, 2022 12:33:15 GMT -6
I’ve never thought about using something like auto align on a snare and a sample - maybe I’ll try that. Even though they’re not the same sound, I bet you could use that to shape the tone a bit. I use the Auto Align Post plugin a lot for this. But it may not be the workflow you think: it won't fix sloppy triggering. You still need to manually align your samples with your sources. My worfklow is based around MIDI-generated 'key spikes' rather than triggering from the source audio; that gets the timing spot-on. Then I use AA Post -- with the timing adjustment disabled -- for its phase rotation thing. That can really help blend a sample to a source. |
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Post by drumrec on Dec 21, 2022 16:36:24 GMT -6
Sorry for my late response. Here are some bars and samples from the drum kit I have set up now for the band I'm recording. That's not quite the sound from your reference track, @johnkenn For that sound I have to change some drums first. Not so deep snare and other bd etc. I can come back after the Christmas weekend when I have a little more free time. I just love the sound that Jay Joyce has created on "heart like a truck". So I want to achieve that. He has the same mindset of recording bands in the same room, I do the same! Now there have been a lot of good tips on awesome samples in this thread, so these might be redundant. But I'm sending them here anyway and maybe someone will use them or get an idea from them. Always more fun to record drums in some kind of musical context. It's pretty boring to only hear your drums against a click. So I took the song and removed the original drums with iZotop "music rabalance" and recorded my drums a few bars (the music doesn't have the best sound quality after "music rebalance", but u have something). So there is a file with the song "Dry Kit RGO-Tutti" and then one just with drums " "Dry Kit RGO-Drums". Here is the link and I take the opportunity to wish you all a Merry Christmas and hope that the world is a little kinder next year! Here comes the drums. LINK: we.tl/t-kl8sXNLMiKKR Håkan |
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Post by tkaitkai on Dec 21, 2022 19:03:19 GMT -6
I’ve never thought about using something like auto align on a snare and a sample - maybe I’ll try that. Even though they’re not the same sound, I bet you could use that to shape the tone a bit. I actually do this all the time and it makes a huge difference. I just use the stock time delay plugin and adjust by ear in small sample increments until it sounds best. I also flip polarity constantly while doing this. It’s weird, because you wouldn’t think two unrelated samples would have a phase relationship, but it definitely makes a difference. I have these two kick samples that I blend together all the time and I swear it sounds best when one is delayed by exactly 102 samples. |
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