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Post by thehightenor on Dec 17, 2022 12:48:02 GMT -6
The last couple of Behringer things I’ve bought (including a synth, the Poly D) have been tanks. I know we’re supposed to hate Behringer cause they’ve been cancelled by the gear elites, but I dunno, I like stuff that works well and doesn’t break the bank. Not very gear-litically correct I know. Totally agree. Folks that have a horse in the race, either by selling gear or having big $$$ invested in high end gear love to mock Behringer. The rest of us are just trying to make music in an industry where wages flatlined decades ago. I have invested in Behringer's live mixers X32 Compact and XR 18 Air and excellent products they are. They weren't particularly cheap but they were affordable and I'm grateful for that, it's allowed me and my band to achieve a great live sound at a sensible price. I don't have any Behringer gear in my studio but I'd definitely consider getting this new synth if it sounds great. |
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Post by bossanova on Jun 6, 2023 21:31:22 GMT -6
It’s finally available. I already have my order in.
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Post by bossanova on Jul 13, 2023 22:30:12 GMT -6
And it arrived! It’s faithful to the limitations of the original to a fault (I’m not loving the membrane buttons, needing effects for stereo and/or to give it some space), but the sound is really on the money. Some of the demos don’t do it justice.
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Post by thehightenor on Jul 14, 2023 1:03:32 GMT -6
It's like all these things, I think the Behringer Pro 800 sounds great .... until you directly compare it with an actual P600.
Taken for what it is, you definitely cannot complain about the price, you get a decent amount of tone for the money.
I’m going to order one.
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Post by johneppstein on Jul 14, 2023 9:57:01 GMT -6
That is the main thing, the professionals amongst us and those who wish to be understand our compensation is based on intellectual property rights, to see someone tread all over the intellectual property rights of those who have built reasonable priced tools for us to simply deliver lower quality tools at lower prices seam wrong. Exactly. Anyone who wants to make money off their creative works (music) should honor the creative work of others. Where would synths be without Dave Smith? Yes, but -The statutary time limits vary greatly between patents and copyright, with copyright being much longer. To extend patents many companies update designs on a regular basis, but companies that are defunct andf the patent owner can't update designs, or if not sell their patents to someone capable of improving the design frequently have their patents on old gear lapse. |
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Post by johneppstein on Jul 14, 2023 10:17:03 GMT -6
The line is only fuzzy in the eyes of a buyer, from a gear manufacturers point of view it’s crystal clear; has the pattent or trade mark expired? Fuzzy ? We are talking about Behringer the guys who made such a good copy of an Aphex that it said Aphex on the PCB ! The price of reproduction of LA2’s 1176’s Neve etc went down because the market expanded for these products and it didn’t hurt that a lot of the non critical parts are now sourced from China. Simply go look at what kind of discount you can get on something as simple as a resistor if you move down the columns by buying in quantity. When I had my ADL’s I know Anthony built them, my Purple MC76’s were built by Andrew. These were basically one or 2 man shops. As much as I like to be an educated buyer, I don't have the time or knowledge to understand who owns a patent or trademark. Are you aware of who owns the copyright to the Prophet synths Behringer is cloning? Are companies like Sweetwater breaking the law in selling them? Are we talking about ethics or legalities in this case? In regards to the ethics of buying LA2A and 76 clones, I'm not sure if I understand your point above. Are you saying if I buy clones from a small two man shop they get an ethical pass but Behringer should not? I'm honestly not trying to waste our time arguing Eric, and I find most of your posts here highly educational. I'm not an apologist for Behringer. I own one powered speaker they made (still works fine) and one crappy plastic pedal that's meh. If someone refuses to buy Behringer because of past sins I fully respect that. A lot of the heat is/was caused by the fact that in earlieer days, Uli cloned a lot of stuff that was still in production. He doesn't seen to be doing that these days - now he goes for classic stuff that has been "out of print" for years,or he simply buys companies with good reps that have fallen on harder times. |
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Post by aremos on Jul 14, 2023 12:12:23 GMT -6
It's like all these things, I think the Behringer Pro 800 sounds great .... until you directly compare it with an actual P600. Taken for what it is, you definitely cannot complain about the price, you get a decent amount of tone for the money. I’m going to order one. I own 2 Prophet 600's & love 'em. Always wanted SCI to make a desktop or rack mount. Have you compared the real one to this Behringer? |
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Post by bossanova on Jul 18, 2023 16:47:04 GMT -6
I've been playing mine through my stereo chorus pedals. It opens up the sound nicely.
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