Hitsville verb

I mean…I’m not sure anything lol. I did the 6 for $399 and got the Hitsville Reverb. Only a couple of opportunities, but I’ve yet to choose it over something else at the moment.


Btw - I heard a really cool track that Chad did with his son and drsax provided some sax for. The track and mix was killer and the verb that Darren sent for the sax was just phenomenal. Chad sent me what Darren had said he used - a smorgasbord of three reverbs…that I’d honestly never thought about stacking. Maybe he can weigh in because it had a depth that made me immediately go what the **** was that reverb?

Agreed, both the Hitsville plug are very good, the eq is increasing gain even on its default but even level matched sounds impressive.

Got a few rough mixes I’m jumping into today. I’m going to play around with the Hitsville a bunch. I’ll report back. I’ve Always preferred plates over chambers, so I might be a little biased.

That should be a thread by itself!

Deets please !

Johnkenn and Chad / thanks for the kind words you guys. I almost never put a single reverb on a single track. I’ve done it with the Bricasti a few times and of course it is always gorgeous. But… I almost always use reverbs on aux sends. People always ask me what reverb I use, and I can’t really tell them, because it’s almost always a blend of several. in the early days, it was out of necessity, because I did not have enough reverb units or processing power to put reverb on every individual track. I also saw that many notable mix engineers did it that way as well. It was just how I started working 25+ years ago. same way with my main stereo delay, it goes on and auxiliary track. I believe using those fx via sends and blending channel to channel creates a cohesive sound in the mix that you cannot get when you just stick individual fx on different channels. So for the meat and potatoes of a mix, I do it that way. Occasionally, I might set up an effect just for one specific channel but that’s not the norm for me.

Also, the pre-delays are pretty important, so you don’t end up with a washed out sound. For me, generally the shorter the reverb, the shorter the pre-delay, maybe 4 to 6 ms for a room reverb or sometimes no pre-delay. Then for some thing like a medium length plate, maybe a 10 ms or 12 ms pre delay. Then for longer reverbs like halls or, otherwise, 25 ms or so. If it’s a drum slap back, maybe 40+ milliseconds predelay. I also often EQ my reverbs. Usually a low cut/high pass, to keep lows from getting washed out. Sometimes I will EQ the mid or highs of the reverb, depending on how something is sitting in the mix.

Specifically, the basic building blocks in a mix for me with reverb are always a room that is short, 0.7 seconds or so with either no pre-delay, or a 4 to 6 ms pre-delay, a plate reverb that is 1.5 to 2.2 seconds long with a 10 to 14 ms pre-delay, and a hall reverb that is two seconds to 3.5 seconds long with a 25 ms pre-delay. Usually my hall reverb is around 2.4 most of the time unless I’m doing a ballad. I just the blend from the aux sends of each track to those reverbs. I usually do the same with my main delay in stereo, and a few other effects that I like to use on multiple tracks. Once again, it’s just the way I’ve always done it and have gotten good results. No one ever complained so I kept doing it that way, lol

I always use effects on Aux channels - was just saying I hadn’t really thought about using more than one verb at a time for some reason. I think Chad mentioned you used like 3 different ones. I’ve used reverb and delay on vocals, but never really thought about using free delay to add an echo Along with the longer reverb.

I hear you. I considered selling my Bricasti, but it is obviously not a plugin, and it is on a send/return in my mixer out of the box, so it does not  take any dsp, etc., on tracks, and is great for blending with other verbs, including the plugins.  (I also have a Lexicon PCM92 on a send/return in my mixer, for such blending as well.) I loved your post above as well, explaining some of your settings.  That is helpful to me.  Best regards.

cool! And agreed, I find the Brauer thing time consuming as well. To me a good analog master buss achieves what I need.

@ DrSax thx so much for posting that 3 verb starting point.

I had read about this before and wanted to experiment and get better at using verb.

I just created a logic template using liquidsonics and your settings, even tweaking faders on a drum loop and or muting channels , you can really hear the layering: interesting !