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Post by Bat Lanyard on Oct 18, 2022 20:05:05 GMT -6
Worth checking out. All of our keyboards have run through the pedal in one way or another for the record we're finishing, so if it can grab some of that vibe, might be cool. Strymon BigSky plugin |
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Post by bossanova on Oct 18, 2022 20:45:00 GMT -6
Worth checking out. All of our keyboards have run through the pedal in one way or another for the record we're finishing, so if it can grab some of that vibe, might be cool. Strymon BigSky pluginWow...I never thought we'd see Strymon algos in software. Their pedals are the best copy protection they could hope for. On the other hand, noise free and as many instances as you can run, that's very tempting. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2022 21:08:41 GMT -6
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Post by spindrift on Oct 18, 2022 21:52:01 GMT -6
$200 ?!
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Post by Blackdawg on Oct 18, 2022 22:44:50 GMT -6
yeah its looks awesome fast and cool to use. But i'll wait for a sale still |
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Post by thehightenor on Oct 19, 2022 0:23:37 GMT -6
Wow, this is a surprise, predictably not cheap either.
Mind you when I was auditioning reverb pedals for my main pedal board after extensive testing I actually ended up buying the
MXR Reverb pedal by the Wayhuge designer Jeorge Tripps as I preferred the reverbs.
Maybe MXR and line 6 etc will start doing plugins if Styrmon have?
I'd love an Echopark delay pedal plugin.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2022 2:17:48 GMT -6
Wow, this is a surprise, predictably not cheap either. Mind you when I was auditioning reverb pedals for my main pedal board after extensive testing I actually ended up buying the MXR Reverb pedal by the Wayhuge designer Jeorge Tripps as I preferred the reverbs. Maybe MXR and line 6 etc will start doing plugins if Styrmon have? I'd love an Echopark delay pedal plugin. dude, they won't. mxr is owned by dunlopp. they won't even reissues their best hardware like the 136. that's the art dual limiter now. a plugin of it?  ? no way jose. the hardware they can upsell. that's why strymon is 200 bucks. also it's the same algorithms. the reasons hardware fx are better than software is they cant fuck up otherwise people will return or sell it. they cant sound bad. it has to sound good. strymon sounds good. neunaber refused to release their gloriness as software. only 1 algorithm. eventide's 9000 algs released as plugs rule. the sp2016 is one of the best reverbs around. AMS made sure the UAD plug did not sound close to the hardware recreation despite both running on sharc dsp chips. in hardware you have that, neunaber, bricasti, and other cool stuff. in software? we got TAI CHI and CINEMATIC ROOMS and SONSIG and now... Big Sky just lik we got the SP2016 and PSP EMT 2445. It's a must buy dude. Cop it. This is awesome and sounds huge. You're a fool if you don't get it for instrumental ambience. This is hardware gone software. The stuff that has to sound good because it's hardware made into software. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 19, 2022 2:37:47 GMT -6
If $200 is the launch price, it will go on sale eventually:)
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Post by antipodesjosh on Oct 19, 2022 2:47:29 GMT -6
Maybe MXR and line 6 etc will start doing plugins if Styrmon have? Helix Native has all the amps and FX from the floor processors: line6.com/helix/helixnative.htmlThey also included all the legacy FX from the 4-series stomp-box modellers, so if you want to take a trip down DL4 memory lane, it's all in there. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 19, 2022 2:48:10 GMT -6
Very impressive demo video.
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Post by thehightenor on Oct 19, 2022 3:56:21 GMT -6
Wow, this is a surprise, predictably not cheap either. Mind you when I was auditioning reverb pedals for my main pedal board after extensive testing I actually ended up buying the MXR Reverb pedal by the Wayhuge designer Jeorge Tripps as I preferred the reverbs. Maybe MXR and line 6 etc will start doing plugins if Styrmon have? I'd love an Echopark delay pedal plugin. dude, they won't. mxr is owned by dunlopp. they won't even reissues their best hardware like the 136. that's the art dual limiter now. a plugin of it? ? no way jose. the hardware they can upsell. that's why strymon is 200 bucks. also it's the same algorithms. the reasons hardware fx are better than software is they cant fuck up otherwise people will return or sell it. they cant sound bad. it has to sound good. strymon sounds good. neunaber refused to release their gloriness as software. only 1 algorithm. eventide's 9000 algs released as plugs rule. the sp2016 is one of the best reverbs around. AMS made sure the UAD plug did not sound close to the hardware recreation despite both running on sharc dsp chips. in hardware you have that, neunaber, bricasti, and other cool stuff. in software? we got TAI CHI and CINEMATIC ROOMS and SONSIG and now... Big Sky just lik we got the SP2016 and PSP EMT 2445. It's a must buy dude. Cop it. This is awesome and sounds huge. You're a fool if you don't get it for instrumental ambience. This is hardware gone software. The stuff that has to sound good because it's hardware made into software. I didn't care that much for the pedal so if the software is identical I'll definitely pass. I don't need instrumental ambience anyway. Plus, I have more reverb plugins than is reasonable for one person :-) But I do agree about the SP2016 it's a great reverb plugin. |
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Post by indiehouse on Oct 19, 2022 4:46:54 GMT -6
Wow, this is a surprise, predictably not cheap either. Mind you when I was auditioning reverb pedals for my main pedal board after extensive testing I actually ended up buying the MXR Reverb pedal by the Wayhuge designer Jeorge Tripps as I preferred the reverbs. Maybe MXR and line 6 etc will start doing plugins if Styrmon have? I'd love an Echopark delay pedal plugin. dude, they won't. mxr is owned by dunlopp. they won't even reissues their best hardware like the 136. that's the art dual limiter now. a plugin of it? ? no way jose. the hardware they can upsell. that's why strymon is 200 bucks. also it's the same algorithms. the reasons hardware fx are better than software is they cant fuck up otherwise people will return or sell it. they cant sound bad. it has to sound good. strymon sounds good. neunaber refused to release their gloriness as software. only 1 algorithm. eventide's 9000 algs released as plugs rule. the sp2016 is one of the best reverbs around. AMS made sure the UAD plug did not sound close to the hardware recreation despite both running on sharc dsp chips. in hardware you have that, neunaber, bricasti, and other cool stuff. in software? we got TAI CHI and CINEMATIC ROOMS and SONSIG and now... Big Sky just lik we got the SP2016 and PSP EMT 2445. It's a must buy dude. Cop it. This is awesome and sounds huge. You're a fool if you don't get it for instrumental ambience. This is hardware gone software. The stuff that has to sound good because it's hardware made into software. I assume you are a Strymon fan? |
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Post by indiehouse on Oct 19, 2022 4:48:46 GMT -6
If $200 is the launch price, it will go on sale eventually:) Maybe, maybe not. Does Strymon even do sales on hardware? Been awhile since I bought a Strymon pedal, but I always remember them as never on sale. Plug-in world is a different game, though. |
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Post by indiehouse on Oct 19, 2022 4:50:23 GMT -6
Now if they release an El Cap or Volante plug? Whoa boy.
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 19, 2022 4:54:55 GMT -6
Comparatively speaking Bluesky plug is well priced, but it will be difficult for S to not have plug sales at some point.
They may like to think they are that exclusive, but as most of us have 10-20 reverb /delay plug ins already, is it critical to buy Bluesky at $200, not really.
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Post by 79sg on Oct 19, 2022 6:24:11 GMT -6
$200 seems steep for a plugin these days plus I’d rather have the pedal if I wanted it. Joey Sturgis has a take on the BigSky currently on sale for $19, 7 algorithms. joeysturgistones.com/products/jst-sky-boxDon’t forget Valhalla Supermassive and it is free. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2022 12:55:28 GMT -6
dude, they won't. mxr is owned by dunlopp. they won't even reissues their best hardware like the 136. that's the art dual limiter now. a plugin of it? ? no way jose. the hardware they can upsell. that's why strymon is 200 bucks. also it's the same algorithms. the reasons hardware fx are better than software is they cant fuck up otherwise people will return or sell it. they cant sound bad. it has to sound good. strymon sounds good. neunaber refused to release their gloriness as software. only 1 algorithm. eventide's 9000 algs released as plugs rule. the sp2016 is one of the best reverbs around. AMS made sure the UAD plug did not sound close to the hardware recreation despite both running on sharc dsp chips. in hardware you have that, neunaber, bricasti, and other cool stuff. in software? we got TAI CHI and CINEMATIC ROOMS and SONSIG and now... Big Sky just lik we got the SP2016 and PSP EMT 2445. It's a must buy dude. Cop it. This is awesome and sounds huge. You're a fool if you don't get it for instrumental ambience. This is hardware gone software. The stuff that has to sound good because it's hardware made into software. I assume you are a Strymon fan? Yes! This is a must buy and it sounds exactly like the name: Big Sky. It sounds blown out, forward, all encompassing with a cloudy tinge it it. Dudes don’t want to filter and eq it because it’s an unbalanced pedal but it kicks ass as an fx unit and now a plug The Eventide 9000s are dirtier and less blown out. SP2016 is browner and darker. All the FV-1 pedals are viby and sit well but lo-fi. That old Keith Barr stuff sits despite the noise and digital dirt. The Neunaber Immerse is great. Closest I’ve heard itb is that Goodhertz Megaverb. Alesis inspired. Now there’s that synthedit windows plug of the Midiverb but haven’t tried it. Valhalla is muddy and harsh compared to these. It sounds like it electroplates the audio. Huge step down. I’d rather use the old Oxford reverb. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 23, 2022 4:06:13 GMT -6
In the wild demo video:
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Post by thehightenor on Oct 23, 2022 9:31:07 GMT -6
Never really liked the Strymon pedals, though I wanted to badly. They got a lot of design aspects right early on. But they always just sounded like plugins in pedal form. Now the irony of the plugin is that I don't think it sounds better than most of the ubiquitous plugins, from Valhalla to tons of other indie developers. There's something quite 2010's tacky about that Strymon verb sound. I know it seems silly to say so but just not my thing, I guess. I thought I was alone. When I was looking for a reverb FX pedals for my pedal board I just presumed I'd go for the big three Strymon Reverb, Delay and Modulation pedals. But when I was done demoing everything I ended up with the MXR Reverb, Way Huge Super Puss (BBD) and Line 6 Echo Park (digital) delays and Boss analog Chorus and Modulation. The only Strymon pedal I ended up buying was the Lex rotary pedal. All totally subjective opinion of course. |
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Post by the other mark williams on Oct 23, 2022 12:22:46 GMT -6
I am generally what one could call a “Strymon fan.” I currently own an El Capistan, a DIG, a TimeLine, and an Iridium. I used to own a Blue Sky, but sold it. I personally don’t like their reverbs that much compared to the competition. In fact, when I sold the Blue Sky, I got a TC Hall of Fame reverb pedal, and I like it much better, despite it being like 1/4 the price.
This is one of those areas where I’ll have to respectfully disagree with you, @tomegatherion. I think the Valhalla ‘verbs are better than Strymon’s offerings. I’m not hearing the graininess in Valhalla that you mention. I’ve talked to Sean Costello in the past about porting some of his algorithms to a pedal format, where I think they would really excel. For my money, Valhalla is not often top of the heap - for me, that would probably be LiquidSonics Cinematic Rooms. And Michael Carnes’s offerings are fabulous, as well. Really, there are so many good choices.
Even as a Strymon fan generally: IME, each pedal I’ve owned of theirs has had a near-fatal flaw. And to my mind, these flaws should not exist in pedals that cost the premium that theirs do. I find myself simultaneously inspired and disappointed at the same time by everything I’ve had from them. And hey, I still own 4 of their pedals.
And I think this new plugin of theirs is wildly overpriced.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2022 12:39:09 GMT -6
I am generally what one could call a “Strymon fan.” I currently own an El Capistan, a DIG, a TimeLine, and an Iridium. I used to own a Blue Sky, but sold it. I personally don’t like their reverbs that much compared to the competition. In fact, when I sold the Blue Sky, I got a TC Hall of Fame reverb pedal, and I like it much better, despite it being like 1/4 the price. This is one of those areas where I’ll have to respectfully disagree with you, @tomegatherion. I think the Valhalla ‘verbs are better than Strymon’s offerings. I’m not hearing the graininess in Valhalla that you mention. I’ve talked to Sean Costello in the past about porting some of his algorithms to a pedal format, where I think they would really excel. For my money, Valhalla is not often top of the heap - for me, that would probably be LiquidSonics Cinematic Rooms. And Michael Carnes’s offerings are fabulous, as well. Really, there are so many good choices. Even as a Strymon fan generally: IME, each pedal I’ve owned of theirs has had a near-fatal flaw. And to my mind, these flaws should not exist in pedals that cost the premium that theirs do. I find myself simultaneously inspired and disappointed at the same time by everything I’ve had from them. And hey, I still own 4 of their pedals. And I think this new plugin of theirs is wildly overpriced. Honestly I hate all the Valhalla products except for the delay and a few presets that get me in the ballpark of past special effect stuff. I think they’re conspicuous. Big Sky is cool if you band pass it and cut the box. As a pedal in a pedal chain aka an insert! No!Needs to be a send unless you want a stupid 2010s sound. The high ends on both suck ass vs something like the Eventide SP2016 or Relab Sonsig or the Reverb Foundry stuff |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2022 13:23:13 GMT -6
I am generally what one could call a “Strymon fan.” I currently own an El Capistan, a DIG, a TimeLine, and an Iridium. I used to own a Blue Sky, but sold it. I personally don’t like their reverbs that much compared to the competition. In fact, when I sold the Blue Sky, I got a TC Hall of Fame reverb pedal, and I like it much better, despite it being like 1/4 the price. This is one of those areas where I’ll have to respectfully disagree with you, @tomegatherion. I think the Valhalla ‘verbs are better than Strymon’s offerings. I’m not hearing the graininess in Valhalla that you mention. I’ve talked to Sean Costello in the past about porting some of his algorithms to a pedal format, where I think they would really excel. For my money, Valhalla is not often top of the heap - for me, that would probably be LiquidSonics Cinematic Rooms. And Michael Carnes’s offerings are fabulous, as well. Really, there are so many good choices. Even as a Strymon fan generally: IME, each pedal I’ve owned of theirs has had a near-fatal flaw. And to my mind, these flaws should not exist in pedals that cost the premium that theirs do. I find myself simultaneously inspired and disappointed at the same time by everything I’ve had from them. And hey, I still own 4 of their pedals. And I think this new plugin of theirs is wildly overpriced. Hey my last post sounds a bit dismissive but like I always thought the strymon was to get those Alesis type (including FV-1) and Eventide sounds but bigger and without the wash of noise or distortion. Alesis / Keith Barr type reverbs are some of the best ever but the real hardware is tailored for the custom digital chips they run on which are noisy. These are in no ways a linear process. The Eventides only upsample and filter the distortion so their deliberately distorted new products are cleaner than their supposedly undistorted reverbs, fx, and even mastering products. Mangledverb and Crushstation are cleaner than Elevate and Saturate. I don’t know what your using the Big Sky for but that’s where it works and gives me a sepia hue vs audible aliasing or noise wash. |
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Post by notneeson on Oct 23, 2022 15:06:12 GMT -6
I never really fell in love with my Big Sky, either as a pedal or in a mix. Sold it.
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Post by Quint on Oct 23, 2022 16:53:25 GMT -6
I am generally what one could call a “Strymon fan.” I currently own an El Capistan, a DIG, a TimeLine, and an Iridium. I used to own a Blue Sky, but sold it. I personally don’t like their reverbs that much compared to the competition. In fact, when I sold the Blue Sky, I got a TC Hall of Fame reverb pedal, and I like it much better, despite it being like 1/4 the price. This is one of those areas where I’ll have to respectfully disagree with you, @tomegatherion . I think the Valhalla ‘verbs are better than Strymon’s offerings. I’m not hearing the graininess in Valhalla that you mention. I’ve talked to Sean Costello in the past about porting some of his algorithms to a pedal format, where I think they would really excel. For my money, Valhalla is not often top of the heap - for me, that would probably be LiquidSonics Cinematic Rooms. And Michael Carnes’s offerings are fabulous, as well. Really, there are so many good choices. Even as a Strymon fan generally: IME, each pedal I’ve owned of theirs has had a near-fatal flaw. And to my mind, these flaws should not exist in pedals that cost the premium that theirs do. I find myself simultaneously inspired and disappointed at the same time by everything I’ve had from them. And hey, I still own 4 of their pedals. And I think this new plugin of theirs is wildly overpriced. I'm curious what fatal flaws are you speaking of? |
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Post by notneeson on Oct 23, 2022 17:51:42 GMT -6
I am generally what one could call a “Strymon fan.” I currently own an El Capistan, a DIG, a TimeLine, and an Iridium. I used to own a Blue Sky, but sold it. I personally don’t like their reverbs that much compared to the competition. In fact, when I sold the Blue Sky, I got a TC Hall of Fame reverb pedal, and I like it much better, despite it being like 1/4 the price. This is one of those areas where I’ll have to respectfully disagree with you, @tomegatherion. I think the Valhalla ‘verbs are better than Strymon’s offerings. I’m not hearing the graininess in Valhalla that you mention. I’ve talked to Sean Costello in the past about porting some of his algorithms to a pedal format, where I think they would really excel. For my money, Valhalla is not often top of the heap - for me, that would probably be LiquidSonics Cinematic Rooms. And Michael Carnes’s offerings are fabulous, as well. Really, there are so many good choices. Even as a Strymon fan generally: IME, each pedal I’ve owned of theirs has had a near-fatal flaw. And to my mind, these flaws should not exist in pedals that cost the premium that theirs do. I find myself simultaneously inspired and disappointed at the same time by everything I’ve had from them. And hey, I still own 4 of their pedals. And I think this new plugin of theirs is wildly overpriced. A pedal that can run plugins with low latency would be a killer product. |
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? no way jose. the hardware they can upsell. that's why strymon is 200 bucks. also it's the same algorithms. the reasons hardware fx are better than software is they cant fuck up otherwise people will return or sell it. they cant sound bad. it has to sound good. strymon sounds good. neunaber refused to release their gloriness as software. only 1 algorithm. eventide's 9000 algs released as plugs rule. the sp2016 is one of the best reverbs around. AMS made sure the UAD plug did not sound close to the hardware recreation despite both running on sharc dsp chips. in hardware you have that, neunaber, bricasti, and other cool stuff. in software? we got TAI CHI and CINEMATIC ROOMS and SONSIG and now... Big Sky just lik we got the SP2016 and PSP EMT 2445. It's a must buy dude. Cop it. This is awesome and sounds huge. You're a fool if you don't get it for instrumental ambience. This is hardware gone software. The stuff that has to sound good because it's hardware made into software.
