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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 20, 2022 6:33:50 GMT -6
Fully integrated now: nice!
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Post by sean on Sept 20, 2022 6:57:44 GMT -6
Been thinking about giving Console 1 a try (although with Pro Tools). I've got to make my home set up more economic and get less dependent on the mouse. I bought a S1 but my desk kind of sucks and it sits too high and it's too deep. Furniture is such a headache
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 20, 2022 7:54:04 GMT -6
Have seen people who have built little wooden stands, guess you also have to factor in possible new plug in purchases too ?
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Post by thehightenor on Sept 20, 2022 8:55:24 GMT -6
Fully integrated now: nice! Cool, I hope Cubase get's this new DAW mode where you don't need to insert a Console 1 plugin to have basic control over your DAW. I don't have the fader pack as I use a Faderport 16 but I get lot's use out of Console 1, I think it's a great tool. I have the additional SSL 9K and Brit A - they're really good. If only they'd get rid of the auto-gain make up when using the compressors, even if one could just de-select it - that would be a help.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Sept 20, 2022 9:09:01 GMT -6
Been thinking about giving Console 1 a try (although with Pro Tools). I've got to make my home set up more economic and get less dependent on the mouse. I bought a S1 but my desk kind of sucks and it sits too high and it's too deep. Furniture is such a headache Don't bother. Integration with Pro Tools sucks. Mine has been sitting in the garage for probably 2 years.
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Post by sirthought on Sept 20, 2022 17:30:28 GMT -6
It only took them six years.
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 20, 2022 18:04:29 GMT -6
What’s Swedish for patience ?
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Post by sean on Sept 20, 2022 18:41:38 GMT -6
Been thinking about giving Console 1 a try (although with Pro Tools). I've got to make my home set up more economic and get less dependent on the mouse. I bought a S1 but my desk kind of sucks and it sits too high and it's too deep. Furniture is such a headache Don't bother. Integration with Pro Tools sucks. Mine has been sitting in the garage for probably 2 years. Damn
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Post by ericn on Sept 20, 2022 19:24:17 GMT -6
Been thinking about giving Console 1 a try (although with Pro Tools). I've got to make my home set up more economic and get less dependent on the mouse. I bought a S1 but my desk kind of sucks and it sits too high and it's too deep. Furniture is such a headache Don't bother. Integration with Pro Tools sucks. Mine has been sitting in the garage for probably 2 years. Avid and other control protocols don’t mix.
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Post by schmalzy on Sept 20, 2022 22:54:10 GMT -6
It only took them six years. From what I understand, it was an issue with AUs and Logic. Logic updated, Softube updated. Now all works apparently.
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Post by sirthought on Sept 21, 2022 0:07:12 GMT -6
I haven't update Logic for quite some time, although I have the latest. I know that was the line they were pushing, but I don't believe it was all on Logic's end.
Bottom line, they sold a very expensive product that didn't work in one of the most popular DAWs on the market. A lot of people got sucked in to the marketing pitch and couldn't use it.
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Post by schmalzy on Sept 21, 2022 9:23:55 GMT -6
I haven't update Logic for quite some time, although I have the latest. I know that was the line they were pushing, but I don't believe it was all on Logic's end. Bottom line, they sold a very expensive product that didn't work in one of the most popular DAWs on the market. A lot of people got sucked in to the marketing pitch and couldn't use it. I don't think I'm an especially smart person. I think I'm capable of a lot of things but I'm not some brilliant person. I also can't predict the future. I was, however, able to read the information on their website at that time saying which DAWs were fully compatible, which were partially compatibled, and which were not at all compatible. My DAW of choice at that time was fully compatible as was one of the ones I was considering switching to. I was also considering switching to another DAW and that one was not compatible at all. I decided I'd try some DAWs out and let that determine my workflow going forward. With technology stuffs - especially when two separate companies need to work together in order to get a potential future result - a single bird in hand is worth 9 or 10 in the bush. It's been great for me. Some people I know developed a workflow to work in the less-supported DAWs. Some people didn't like it/didn't like how it worked with their preferred workflow and sold it.
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Post by schmalzy on Sept 21, 2022 9:28:12 GMT -6
Been thinking about giving Console 1 a try (although with Pro Tools). I've got to make my home set up more economic and get less dependent on the mouse. I bought a S1 but my desk kind of sucks and it sits too high and it's too deep. Furniture is such a headache Don't bother. Integration with Pro Tools sucks. Mine has been sitting in the garage for probably 2 years. Are you planning to do nothing with this hardware unit for your foreseeable future? Has it been stored in way that would keep it clean and in good shape? I've been using mine 310 days a year for the past bunch of years and one knob is starting to behave oddly - the low mid gain encoder isn't always reading smoothly. Would you be willing to sell yours?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Sept 21, 2022 9:48:28 GMT -6
Don't bother. Integration with Pro Tools sucks. Mine has been sitting in the garage for probably 2 years. Are you planning to do nothing with this hardware unit for your foreseeable future? Has it been stored in way that would keep it clean and in good shape? I've been using mine 310 days a year for the past bunch of years and one knob is starting to behave oddly - the low mid gain encoder isn't always reading smoothly. Would you be willing to sell yours? $350 fair?
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Post by schmalzy on Sept 21, 2022 10:40:15 GMT -6
Are you planning to do nothing with this hardware unit for your foreseeable future? Has it been stored in way that would keep it clean and in good shape? I've been using mine 310 days a year for the past bunch of years and one knob is starting to behave oddly - the low mid gain encoder isn't always reading smoothly. Would you be willing to sell yours? $350 fair? That seems like it's in the ballpark. Let me do some scheming and find out how Softube's licensing deals with reselling/purchasing used this sort of thing. I'll hit you in private messages if it makes sense to go any further! Thanks for the reply!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2022 11:24:08 GMT -6
It’s a shame because the Neve and API strips sound pretty good. Better than some clone hardware. British Class A is fat and warm and American Class A doesn’t sound like API but some crazy digital distortion thing. API eq way more useful than Neve too.
Other than that, the minimum phase anti-alias filter oversampling and slow loading of sessions and guis
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 21, 2022 11:34:33 GMT -6
If you are also considering the fader controller :
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Post by sirthought on Sept 21, 2022 15:36:14 GMT -6
That was a helpful video.
Years ago I did read the warnings about Logic and decided not to buy. But many folks didn't read the fine print.
I might consider it now. Especially the fader. But at this later stage I've invested in so many other plugins, switching to take advantage of the Softube stuff in their control setup seems sort of like a hard turn. I know they also work with several UAD things, but I'd hope the overall system was a bit more agnostic.
Anyhow, I'll be looking for Logic users experiences and hopefully they enjoy it.
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Post by gwlee7 on Sept 22, 2022 18:28:32 GMT -6
I sold a member my console 1 a while back along with the British Class A license. It was simple enough. Kept my American (Api) license since it also was a stand alone plug.
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 24, 2022 9:00:26 GMT -6
Some competition:
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Post by ericn on Sept 24, 2022 13:06:29 GMT -6
If SSL really wants UC1 to take over they need to provide good sensible maps of other decent sounding plugins. The advantage of console one is that you have a pretty decent universe to choose from not a one tone pony.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2022 14:00:06 GMT -6
Only if you want 1990s digital console algorithms repackaged for the eighth time! SSL put their C series console DSP in the Duende Firewire DSP boxes and then has had 7 versions of the native plug with the plastic sounding algorithms. If you want 90s console dsp, just buy the Sonnox Oxford EQ and Oxford Dynamics next time they're on sale. They sound a million times better than the SSL Native Channel Strip. SSL has updated the gui to look pretty but it doesn't have the prettiest gui of any SSL plug. McDSP Channel G version 7 does! And it gives you API type filters too so it's still a better buy!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2022 14:01:09 GMT -6
If SSL really wants UC1 to take over they need to provide good sensible maps of other decent sounding plugins. The advantage of console one is that you have a pretty decent universe to choose from not a one tone pony. SSL has been out of touch for 20 years and is owned by a private equity firm now post Peter Gabriel. Expect nothing but Chinese made PCB mixers and consoles and half-assed plugs based off of other plugs decades too late.
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Post by ericn on Sept 24, 2022 14:18:57 GMT -6
If SSL really wants UC1 to take over they need to provide good sensible maps of other decent sounding plugins. The advantage of console one is that you have a pretty decent universe to choose from not a one tone pony. SSL has been out of touch for 20 years and is owned by a private equity firm now post Peter Gabriel. Expect nothing but Chinese made PCB mixers and consoles and half-assed plugs based off of other plugs decades too late. SSL is part of the same group that owns Allen and Heath and Digico. In the high end live world Digico is the Console ( ironic because Digico was originally Soundtracs . The SSL fader thing looks and feels a hell of a lot like the small Digico surface. Now here is where it gets interesting in plugin world , the Soundgrid platform that is marketed buy Waves in the US & is primarily aimed at bringing Waves to the live world, its Digico to the rest of the world. Now say what you will about Waves wouldn’t you at least push that relationship to MAP the Waves library to the benefit of both? I always suspected this group bought SSL because they feared SSL as a Digico competitor, the acts new SSL and would be an easy push, plus the fact that years earlier the only Digital platform that could handle the Surround requirements of the Celine Dione Vegas Show was the SSL Axiom MT ( think Axiom but with a 9K like control surface). I read this and think I’m Such a Fing Geek!
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Post by copperx on Sept 24, 2022 22:23:39 GMT -6
They add complete Logic integration, but still, we get no f'n makeup knob on the compressor? Instead, we have a dedicated wet/dry knob that is useless to those who don't partake in parallel compression.
This Console 1 thing has so many unpicked low-hanging fruits is ridiculous. They thought, for example, that switching compressors would be easier by hitting the shift and track 4 selector instead of holding shift + compressor key. Who is overseeing the UX of this thing?
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