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Post by bossanova on Aug 9, 2022 17:14:36 GMT -6
Oh man, I feel the same way with plugins versus a knob. It’s really distracting to see the entire screen fill up from an EQ move. Just this week I think I’ve dialed in the Serrano87 to the final setting that I connect with vocally, acoustic, feels magic. All by ear. The final step was bumping the 73EQ low shelf up another twist. I look down at the EQ now.. low shelf maxed out(!), mids 9 o’clock, high shelf 10 o’clock. No high pass. It’s in omni so the lows give it a proximity type thing but not really. I’d refuse to let myself do this ITB Your refusal to do this ITB makes perfect sense to me - I still think in many cases plugins just can't be pushed as far without crapping out. That is finally beginning to change, but there still aren't very many plugins that can be pushed IMO. The closest I come to this is taking a very reliable, straightforward VST EQ with knobs (Slick EQ GE has been the favorite for a while) and adjusting it without any visual feedback until the desired sound “clicks” into place. |
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Post by the other mark williams on Aug 9, 2022 22:50:24 GMT -6
Your refusal to do this ITB makes perfect sense to me - I still think in many cases plugins just can't be pushed as far without crapping out. That is finally beginning to change, but there still aren't very many plugins that can be pushed IMO. The closest I come to this is taking a very reliable, straightforward VST EQ with knobs (Slick EQ GE has been the favorite for a while) and adjusting it without any visual feedback until the desired sound “clicks” into place. Slick EQ GE is one of those on the short list to my ears. I finally got to put the KIT BB MO-Q through its paces last night, and it makes that list for me, too. |
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Post by tronic on Feb 27, 2023 10:22:32 GMT -6
This reverb is untouchable. Truly. It only takes a few minutes using this and hearing how amazing it sounds to realise this.
I tested it agai at all my plug in reverbs which I was very happy with before and it just whipped the floor with them
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Post by drsax on Feb 27, 2023 13:34:48 GMT -6
If you've used an M7, you'll know….. If you want incredibly realistic halls and spaces, you need the M7. Aside from that, there are two categories of reverb: 1. The M7. 2. Everything else. Diddo |
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Post by christophert on Feb 27, 2023 14:54:40 GMT -6
I have two Bricastis
No plug in can match the 3D spacial reverberation that the Bricasti brings.
I remember when I first got them, I thought they were amazing - but possibly able to be matched by a good plug in.
Then when I started mixing, I found the sound stage so incredible - no plug in could get the width and realism that they bring.
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Post by lpedrum on Feb 27, 2023 16:22:19 GMT -6
I have no doubt that the Bricasti brings a dimension that a plugin doesn't. But I'm wondering if anyone here that swears that the Bricasti is without peer has used and compared it to a Quantec? |
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Post by wiz on Feb 27, 2023 17:03:46 GMT -6
I have used a bricasti for years....
Lately, because LUNA does not do Hardware inserts , I have been using Seventh Heaven.. as I work through a boatload of rerecording and mixing....Its been very very good. But, I won't know really know until hardware inserts are a feature of LUNA. Then, I will either sell the bricasti or buy another one...
cheers
Wiz
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Post by notneeson on Feb 27, 2023 17:16:12 GMT -6
I have used a bricasti for years.... Lately, because LUNA does not do Hardware inserts , I have been using Seventh Heaven.. as I work through a boatload of rerecording and mixing....Its been very very good. But, I won't know really know until hardware inserts are a feature of LUNA. Then, I will either sell the bricasti or buy another one... cheers Wiz Why not do this? (Just trying to understand). |
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Post by ab101 on Feb 27, 2023 17:54:51 GMT -6
I have no doubt that the Bricasti brings a dimension that a plugin doesn't. But I'm wondering if anyone here that swears that the Bricasti is without peer has used and compared it to a Quantec? I have not. Heard great things about Quantec. And frankly, my Bricasti does not replace my Lexicon PCM92 or other reverb plugs I have - like the UAD EMT140. So the Bricasti is great at what it does, but even with what I have (without the Quantec), it is safe to say that it is not the only reverb anyone would ever want for everything. |
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Post by wiz on Feb 27, 2023 17:55:21 GMT -6
I have used a bricasti for years.... Lately, because LUNA does not do Hardware inserts , I have been using Seventh Heaven.. as I work through a boatload of rerecording and mixing....Its been very very good. But, I won't know really know until hardware inserts are a feature of LUNA. Then, I will either sell the bricasti or buy another one... cheers Wiz Why not do this? (Just trying to understand). LUNA outputs are not delay compensated... Cheers Wiz |
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Post by wiz on Feb 27, 2023 17:57:47 GMT -6
I have no doubt that the Bricasti brings a dimension that a plugin doesn't. But I'm wondering if anyone here that swears that the Bricasti is without peer has used and compared it to a Quantec? I have not. Heard great things about Quantec. And frankly, my Bricasti does not replace my Lexicon PCM92 or other reverb plugs I have - like the UAD EMT140. So the Bricasti is great at what it does, but even with what I have (without the Quantec), it is safe to say that it is not the only reverb anyone would ever want for everything. What Bricasti does really fantastic.. is simulate a space.... Now this is particularly handy for someone like me... in a home built studio...I can close mic, and the Bricasti puts that space into a room , like no other plug in or hardware box I have ever heard...If you do music that needs that, its without peer as far as I know... Then if you place something like UAD verbs, Capitol, Hitsville, lexicon verbs etc along with that.. its killer... cheers Wiz |
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Post by notneeson on Feb 27, 2023 18:23:17 GMT -6
Why not do this? (Just trying to understand). LUNA outputs are not delay compensated... Cheers Wiz That’s really not a big deal with reverbs set 100% wet, and since it’s an aux, it should be set to 100% anyway. I mean, unless you are having an issue, I would at least try and get that $4000 reverb working. Just trying to help. (I know you didn’t ask). |
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Post by reddirt on Feb 27, 2023 20:16:48 GMT -6
I haven't looked at Doc's vid but I imagine its talking about printing the Bricasti to a track and that makes perfect sense to me as the ms of delay should not be an issue Wiz.
Give it a whirl.
The other options to negate the delay is if you know the effect you want, print it while recording or simply drag the track later
Cheers, Ross
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Post by notneeson on Feb 27, 2023 20:26:57 GMT -6
I haven't looked at Doc's vid but I imagine its talking about printing the Bricasti to a track and that makes perfect sense to me as the ms of delay should not be an issue Wiz. Give it a whirl. The other options to negate the delay is if you know the effect you want, print it while recording or simply drag the track later Cheers, Ross Absolutely, a little pre-delay is typically a good thing on reverb. |
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Post by wiz on Feb 27, 2023 20:38:21 GMT -6
That’s fine if you are using reverb in the traditional sense as it functions as a sort of predelay. When you you are using it to
Place a sound within a room…it’s a different matter entirely.
Of course, I have tried it and when you compare it to logics compensated outputs, and inputs it’s very easy to hear… I wouldn’t have such a unit sitting idle if I didn’t have to 8)
I just love the sound of Luna
Cheers
Wiz
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Post by notneeson on Feb 27, 2023 20:43:19 GMT -6
That’s fine if you are using reverb in the traditional sense as it functions as a sort of predelay. When you you are using it to Place a sound within a room…it’s a different matter entirely. Of course, I have tried it and when you compare it to logics compensated outputs, and inputs it’s very easy to hear… I wouldn’t have such a unit sitting idle if I didn’t have to 8) I just love the sound of Luna Cheers Wiz Ah, sorry it’s not working for you, mate. Pains me to know you’re not able to use that box at this time! |
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Post by wiz on Feb 27, 2023 21:10:30 GMT -6
That’s fine if you are using reverb in the traditional sense as it functions as a sort of predelay. When you you are using it to Place a sound within a room…it’s a different matter entirely. Of course, I have tried it and when you compare it to logics compensated outputs, and inputs it’s very easy to hear… I wouldn’t have such a unit sitting idle if I didn’t have to 8) I just love the sound of Luna Cheers Wiz Ah, sorry it’s not working for you, mate. Pains me to me to know you’re not able to use that box at this time! Thanks, but it’s all good. I have so much work to do at the moment before I get to that being an issue it’s not funny… Cheers, Wiz |
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Post by reddirt on Feb 27, 2023 22:11:34 GMT -6
Can't you have a sound with a sharp transient recorded , send it into the reverb and drag the reverbed track so that the leading edge matches the original. You may need to have the reverb in bypass for that transient sound and then unbypassed for the audio you want reverbed.
Cheers, Ross
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Post by wiz on Feb 27, 2023 22:32:18 GMT -6
Can't you have a sound with a sharp transient recorded , send it into the reverb and drag the reverbed track so that the leading edge matches the original. You may need to have the reverb in bypass for that transient sound and then unbypassed for the audio you want reverbed. Cheers, Ross Yes but sort of……Luna doesn’t have delay comp on even the display atm so who knows how consistent the output delay will be.,, unties it its not good for my purposes…. So as I said it’s no biggie atm |
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