Got the Trinnov

Found an extra monitor, keyboard and mouse and finally found the trinnov’s ip. Was then able to connect via vnc on my main computer and display. The App never worked, but I was able to operate the main calibration page.

I borrowed a mic and they forgot to give me the mic’s calibration profile usb stick, so I just used the generic mic profile that was already in. I followed the YouTube instructions that resulted from “setting up Trinnov”. It was a Trinnov tutorial video. I was only able to figure out how to go AES from Apollo to ST2, then analog out to the Convert. I’m sure it’s some routing thing I’m not getting.

So what did it do? Well, I’ve literally never heard anyone say a bad thing about it. To a person, people swear it’s the last thing they would sell…and even through all the caveats I just mentioned, I get it. Hopefully once I use it more I’ll be able to dial it in even more. (Plus using the Burl DA instead of the Convert).
I’ll say that having used Sonarworks/Sound ID for several years, it was less of a mind blowing experience than if someone were hearing BOTH the frequency correction and phase, delay, etc. for the first time. As everyone that has reviewed it has said, it’s the phase and time alignment that makes it stand way above the other software offerings. There is a huge width and depth improvement. Along with a tightness in the bottom that makes it sound so 3D. I just did some listening to mixes I know are great and the width and separation is borderline creepy. And this is without the proper mic calibration and DA I want to use. Briefly pulled up a mic I was working on all day and while I was happy that it didn’t sound like shit (sounded pretty damn good actually) I already hear things that I just wasn’t hearing before. We will see if making those changes makes everything better. I have a feeling it really will.

This thread could work out expensive for me 🤔

With an irregular room (one room studio) I think I could really benefit from something like this … but $$$$

Yeah. It’s ridiculous. The proof will be in the pudding - mixing with it. But if I can be at the point where I can tell people that if it’s right in my room, then it IS right - that would be invaluable.

I’m just finding more and more that I’m less interested in tape this and transformer that…I just want to be able to actually hear what I’m doing in the most accurate manor I can. THEN I feel like I can more clearly hear reverb tails and saturation and panning and distortion, etc.

Yeah, but I didn’t buy it from him Got the basics pretty much figured out. Want to talk to their support and get them to dial into hear they make a bunch of little tweaks.
On a lot of the videos, people talk about how they will dial out some correction when there’s a dip at like 3khz. I have a dip in my room at like 1.9khz and 7 kHz of like 2db. I pulled the correction back a little - to stop it from adding those points. The graph says it’s not as “perfect” but it sounds a little better. At least with the Convert.

I’ve been finding that the Convert can be a little “bright/clinical.” So I’m about to measure for the Burl too. Be interesting to see if the Burl takes it.

I've used my Trinnov in an untreated room with great results, though the room sounded pretty good to begin with. Depends on your situation. That being said, ideally room treatment and trinnov is the way to go.

Though to paraphrase Brian Lucey, a well known mastering engineer who stands by the Trinnov, is that the Trinnov will do things that even $25,000 of room treatment can't even do.

I’m also interested in a Trinnov, How are the D/A converters in the Trinnov? is anybody using them or are most people connecting an external DA after it?

ST2

Looking at the back of the Trinnov and inside pictures it appears to be some sort of Nano ITX motherboard/PC inside a box with digital and analogue I/O.

It's clever of them, releasing their software as a standalone software product would not of made anywhere near the profit of tying
it to their own proprietary hardware, plus they get complete control over the system - kind a like Apple do.

For what it is hardware wise it's definitely on the pricey side, but I get it - there's an element of paying to join the club with these top end
hi tech products.

I definitely have one on my radar.

It does appear that way to me and a perfectly reasonable engineering solution, making something a closed system means it's reliable and predictable.

Great that you are pleased.

It seems to me that we are talking about correcting 3 things: reverb time is corrected ( reduced) and or improved by treating your room,

Freq response is flattened made more linear by both room treatment and corrected further by Sonarworks or trinnov, and

Phase, related to time alignment but trinnov is supposed to correct this while Sonarworks doesn’t.

I haven’t demoed trinnov, but like Johnken said, I have yet to read a bad review of Trinnov, only negative is the cost.

If you have well treated your room, ( so have consistent reverb time (r60?), then I can understand how trinnov improves clarity ( no modes), and in particular the sense of soundstage and placement as phase issues are corrected and that you can then really hear your mix as freq response is now linear.

If someone starting out now asked me for advice, thinking about all the money lost trying different monitors and buying Sonarworks multiple times: I’d say treat your room and buy trinnov .

Love the Dirac software, the conversion in the MiniDSP sucks, I mean digi002 sucks.