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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2022 14:17:52 GMT -6
So, when I route signals out Logic creates a new master for that channel (for some reason). What if I want to use a master bus comp for example across all channels? You're gonna say route it to an aux aren't ya? Please tell me it ain't so.
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Post by kcatthedog on May 25, 2022 14:40:49 GMT -6
Just put it on your 2 bus.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2022 14:58:13 GMT -6
Just put it on your 2 bus. It doesn't seem like it wants to let me.. See attached.  |
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Post by kcatthedog on May 25, 2022 15:13:38 GMT -6
On top right hand side you can select what channels you see. I think there is an All or bounce channel you can select, it X’s be a master 2 bus.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2022 16:35:44 GMT -6
Yeah, I figured this one out.. Logic is really weird (coming from Pro Tools). There is no "master bus" so to speak. If you're using an interface Logic will just send everything out of your monitoring outs and that is the "master" but it's actually called stereo out, as soon as you put a desk into the mix it doesn't work that way. You get separate output strips for every channel which is pointless in my scenario because the audio track itself outputs to the channel and has a strip on it. www.logicprohelp.com/forum/topic/101293-a-master-bus/That presents a problem (or not dependant on how you work), you have to mix the track > record > then use master bus processing. You could probably loop it through a record enabled track but that doesn't seem a good idea (comb filtering). Of course you'd have inserts on your desk but I was hoping to use a mixture when running live. I suppose I could use the I/O plugin on every channel if I was using converters with the desk, then every strip would be its own insert. I guess it's no different than looping in an EQ.. Not sure how that would work in terms of summing. Anyway this seems far easier if you just use separate 500 modules and the I/O to loop them. |
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Post by popmann on May 25, 2022 16:36:20 GMT -6
Why are you routing out to different hardware IO? I mean, I can answer your question...but, I need to know what you're trying to achieve by doing that. The short answer is that other than analog summing, you have NO reason to route to multiple hardware outputs defined like that.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2022 16:40:33 GMT -6
Why are you routing out to different hardware IO? I mean, I can answer your question...but, I need to know what you're trying to achieve by doing that. The short answer is that other than analog summing, you have NO reason to route to multiple hardware outputs defined like that. Answer above.. I was testing it out with another mixer I had, I know about the I/O plugin. |
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Post by wiz on May 25, 2022 18:46:53 GMT -6
When I had my console (Highly modified sound craft delta) and Motu 16A....
I tried using it as a console.... and the summing made no appreciable difference for the hassle...
So I just used 14 Channels with Hardware comps inserted over each channel....and the modified EQ and had them as channels in logic each with its own IO plugin....
I would leave the desk in that state, and when final mixdown came.. I would just record each of the channels of the Delta back into logic via AUX channels (maintain timing) and that was that...
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2022 6:32:46 GMT -6
When I had my console (Highly modified sound craft delta) and Motu 16A.... I tried using it as a console.... and the summing made no appreciable difference for the hassle... So I just used 14 Channels with Hardware comps inserted over each channel....and the modified EQ and had them as channels in logic each with its own IO plugin.... I would leave the desk in that state, and when final mixdown came.. I would just record each of the channels of the Delta back into logic via AUX channels (maintain timing) and that was that... cheers Wiz Hey Wiz, I really (honestly, truly) appreciate your advice here.. Been mulling it over (for nearly a year now) and decided to follow the same route as you, for some reason I had some irrational feeling that I was missing out if I didn't have a mixer to sum and pan. Even if it does make 1% difference the workflow of using HW as plugins is just sooo much better. I'll just add some EQ's into the 500 mix, settling all the orders this week so we're all done bar the odd expansion. |
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Post by kcatthedog on May 27, 2022 6:56:23 GMT -6
remember too, you have the utility plug in for setting level so you can gain stage the i/o plug in levels and then also just adjust your hardware to suit the mix.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2022 7:11:29 GMT -6
remember too, you have the utility plug in for setting level so you can gain stage the i/o plug in levels and then also just adjust your hardware to suit the mix. Yeah it opens up a lot more flexibility too because you can wet / dry without having to bus tracks.. I like parallel mixing but it's nice to have options. I think the only problem was real time tracking, so much easier through a desk. One of these day's I'm going to have to REALLY learn that MOTU mixer and stop buying stuff just so I can avoid it  ..!! |
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