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Post by tasteliketape on May 10, 2022 19:17:26 GMT -6
Ok so I’m probably the least experienced guy on this site but! I recorded drums into PT individual tracks . Then set outputs of individual drums to a new stereo track recorded back into PT . Then I was going to effect ( smash mangle etc) the 2 tracks and blend back in with the original individual drum tracks . Easy right ?
I go to play all them back it’s fine, then about 12 bars in the new 2 track hits are no longer synced there several samples off with the original a few bars later there back in sync. WTF am I missing?
This has happened with two completely different brands of converters and my old Mac mini and new Mac studio PT 2018 and PT 2024 .
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by notneeson on May 10, 2022 19:44:47 GMT -6
Weird. I really only approximate this flow on Pro Tools HD, which works just fine for this, although I’m usually just processing a snare or a vocal etc. wholesale, not blending in parallel.
That said, you could buss your drums to an aux and process that instead.
Or, simply bounce the drum submix down from 0:00 onward and reimport.
That will get you going faster than troubleshooting.
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Post by nudwig on May 10, 2022 21:09:17 GMT -6
I'm with notneeson, the bus or bounce method keeps it simple and clear. In general this sounds like some of the wonky things PT does with delay compensation, tho usually it'd be consistent, strange it shifts during the tracks. If it's individual tracks you'll probably have better luck just duping those tracks and effecting from there. If it's all drums I seem to have the least trouble keeping delay compensation in line when I have the main drum bus and all subs with the same input and output and using level for the blend vs taking a send off the drum bus, maybe it's less for math PT to figure out?
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Post by drumsound on May 10, 2022 21:26:53 GMT -6
I do parallel drum processing all the time, PT10 for YEARS and now PT2022. I set up an AUX channel with the input as BUS 9-10 and the output where I want it on the console. The Aux Channel gets a compressor, and all the drum tracks have BUS 9-10 enabled on their sends. Save for the IK stuff, it's worked with McDSP, Avid and Waves compressors with no issues.
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Post by tasteliketape on May 10, 2022 21:34:26 GMT -6
I usually just send to an aux really don’t know why I did it this way . It just blew my mind when I heard it going in and out of sync on a continuous recorded file . O well back to the easy way .
Thanks guys for the replies.
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Post by drumsound on May 10, 2022 21:42:14 GMT -6
I usually just send to an aux really don’t know why I did it this way . It just blew my mind when I heard it going in and out of sync on a continuous recorded file . O well back to the easy way . Thanks guys for the replies. It is concerning that it happened. Could your converters have a clock issue of some sort? |
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Post by ragan on May 10, 2022 22:01:06 GMT -6
Anything the converter was doing would only be applied to the original, individual track recordings. The bounce to a separate stereo track was in PT, right? So no AD/DA there. The issue is that this bounced, stereo track is synced with its individual source tracks for part of it, then out of sync for the rest, is that right?
Super weird, but I don't see how conversion would be effecting this.
Though I agree with others, just use a parallel aux instead of bouncing. That way you can decided/change/automate/whatever how much of any given individual track is going to the parallel bus as you're working.
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Post by tasteliketape on May 10, 2022 22:09:21 GMT -6
I usually just send to an aux really don’t know why I did it this way . It just blew my mind when I heard it going in and out of sync on a continuous recorded file . O well back to the easy way . Thanks guys for the replies. It is concerning that it happened. Could your converters have a clock issue of some sort? Yes it’s very concerning although even though it’s not the normal way I’d do this it still puts doubt in my mind that something isn’t right . Also It’s happened with two different brands of converters. Two different Mac’s and OS |
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Post by reddirt on May 11, 2022 3:25:32 GMT -6
Shouldn't be like that and I'm sorry I have no answers . You should be able to mix your whole song to a stereo mix track and drop in if there are parts of that mix you are unhappy with ( an example of how accurate it should be).
Get on the DUC and ask there as there is an issue you don't want to live with.
Cheers, Ross
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