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Post by bluegrassdan on May 9, 2022 10:27:15 GMT -6
I believe the KM84 can do just about anything. Here's a sample of a U87 compared to a KM84 on vocals.
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Post by crillemannen on May 9, 2022 11:25:31 GMT -6
Cool test and great singing!
The km84 definitely hold its own. Sounds a bit more vintage!? Suited the song very well. I own a couple of km84s and recently found a nice pair of km86 so I have planned on doing a test with the km86. One episode with full demo song and then a comparison to the km84.
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Post by deehope on May 9, 2022 11:44:02 GMT -6
these are actually the 2 best mics for my voice. Im never suprised by a km84 anymore. nice shootout!
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Post by robschnapf on May 9, 2022 12:47:40 GMT -6
I don’t sing but I do know different singers often = different mics.
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Post by chessparov on May 9, 2022 13:03:55 GMT -6
Cool test and great singing! The km84 definitely hold its own. Sounds a bit more vintage!? Suited the song very well. I own a couple of km84s and recently found a nice pair of km86 so I have planned on doing a test with the km86. One episode with full demo song and then a comparison to the km84. In line with this, the KM84 is more soothing. I preferred it over the AI here. For a Rocker though on a (terrific) mellow voice like Dan's... U87ai to be more up front IMHO. Thanks Dan! Chris |
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Post by bluegrassdan on May 9, 2022 14:37:38 GMT -6
I’ve used the 84 when a vocal needs more articulation than a ldc provides. There’s a lot good about that mic.
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Post by chessparov on May 9, 2022 15:06:17 GMT -6
Dan, is there a more affordable SDC alternative other than a vintage 84...
That you also like?
Thanks, Chris
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Post by wiz on May 9, 2022 18:49:20 GMT -6
Sounds great....
"BONER" LOL
cheers
Wiz
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Post by bluegrassdan on May 10, 2022 19:30:27 GMT -6
Dan, is there a more affordable SDC alternative other than a vintage 84... That you also like? Thanks, Chris We just got a pair of Peluso P84s for live use, but I haven't used them in the studio yet. I use the Peluso P28 on some things. |
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Post by chessparov on May 10, 2022 20:29:10 GMT -6
Thanks Dan.  Chris |
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Post by Vincent R. on May 10, 2022 20:38:42 GMT -6
Josh Groban used a KM84 for his first 2 albums and Christmas Album. It’s really nice here.
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Post by timcampbell on May 10, 2022 21:04:50 GMT -6
There are some videos floating around with people recording whole albums with just one MKH mic. Honestly I would choose an MKH 40 over a KM84
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Post by tkaitkai on May 10, 2022 21:05:49 GMT -6
bluegrassdan Really cool video and great performance as usual. I definitely prefer the 87 here, but the 84 is no slouch and holds up quite nicely. If I didn't get to hear the 87, I'd have no issue using the take on the 84.
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Post by sirthought on May 10, 2022 21:15:56 GMT -6
They both sound really good.
I think the 84 might sound a little...is tighter the right word? They have pretty similar tone on my speakers, but the 87 sounds more open.
I could see why you'd want to use it for something needing the transients to show more.
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Post by thehightenor on May 11, 2022 0:21:28 GMT -6
SDC sound more accurate to my ears.
LDC are a bit more “Rose tinted”
I definitely sound too “detailed” on an SDC.
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Post by bluegrassdan on May 12, 2022 6:03:00 GMT -6
We have a pair of Sennheiser 8040s. They are honest, I suppose, but very stark.
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Post by EmRR on May 12, 2022 10:26:02 GMT -6
There are some videos floating around with people recording whole albums with just one MKH mic. Honestly I would choose an MKH 40 over a KM84
off topic but Senn for the win here on utmost clarity and depth of image, hear the quietest clearly against the loudest. They frequently get too stark on drum OH or room, but fantastic on most acoustic instruments. I'd never put one on an electric guitar amp, it'll sound just like that crap actually sounds! That 184 sounds like an AM radio after hearing the 8040. I do prefer the MKH20/30/40 for the EQ and pad switches lacking on the 8000 series. I understand the 8000 also has more color, with the slight bass/treble boost lacking in the earlier. Desert island, I'd ask for 2 and it's prob MKH 20 and a Samar MF-65. 3, I'd add an MKH 30. I had a remote VO capture gig for awhile, frequently an Oktava MK-012 cardioid was the best sounding thing. |
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Post by Ward on May 15, 2022 14:29:15 GMT -6
I truly preferred the KM84 in this shootout as well. It is kinder on the high mid and has a tighter low-end, more suited to a tenor or tenny-bear type voice.
Say, although completely different microphones, do you think you might do a comparison of your amazing 1960 Telefunken U47 against a KM84. please?
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Post by Bob Olhsson on May 16, 2022 11:55:02 GMT -6
Bleed sounds way better on an 84!
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Post by Martin John Butler on May 16, 2022 12:46:19 GMT -6
Dan, is there a more affordable SDC alternative other than a vintage 84... That you also like? Thanks, Chris Chris, you must look into the Soyuz 0-13 FET. It's the only mic I've heard that sounds like it's in the same family as the 84. |
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Post by bluegrassdan on May 16, 2022 19:08:27 GMT -6
I truly preferred the KM84 in this shootout as well. It is kinder on the high mid and has a tighter low-end, more suited to a tenor or tenny-bear type voice. Say, although completely different microphones, do you think you might do a comparison of your amazing 1960 Telefunken U47 against a KM84. please? Sure. I’m vacationing right now, but will be home this weekend. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2022 23:48:33 GMT -6
Bleed sounds way better on an 84! SDCs are god's gift to recordists. Especially the modernized ones that can take RIDICULOUS level. |
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Post by bgrotto on May 18, 2022 20:14:25 GMT -6
84 sounds a bit pinched in the high mids to me. The 87 is ok but sounds kinda...i dunno...flat. Though I will say that the 87 on his voice doesn't sound like what i associate with 87s (esp the AI versions). It worked well for him; better than most of the singers I've tried an 87 on.
Anywho, I'd love to hear this guy on a proper 67, or maybe a 269. I reckon that'd flatter his already-great voice.
I also suspect for a slightly more modern sound, the Josephson 715 would kick major ass on him.
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Post by ericn on May 18, 2022 21:07:51 GMT -6
Bleed sounds way better on an 84! SDCs are god's gift to recordists. Especially the modernized ones that can take RIDICULOUS level. Yep, but what happens is most base their first go round on video ms where the mics were chosen by the art director cause big mics look cool! |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2022 21:16:52 GMT -6
SDCs are god's gift to recordists. Especially the modernized ones that can take RIDICULOUS level. Yep, but what happens is most base their first go round on video ms where the mics were chosen by the art director cause big mics look cool! Meanwhile the Shures with the pad are dirt cheap and could handle some guitarists cab with enough gain to start World War III AT makes large diaphragm electret side address condensers. There’s nothing else like them. |
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