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Post by jacobamerritt on May 26, 2022 14:03:32 GMT -6
I know nothing about this mic. Off to Google...
Full name is AKG C535 EB
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Post by drumsound on May 26, 2022 15:43:37 GMT -6
I know nothing about this mic. Off to Google...
Full name is AKG C535 EB
Gotcha! |
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Post by phdamage on May 29, 2022 22:20:22 GMT -6
Jim Williams turned me on to a stock ST31 for snare. I picked one up a while ago, but haven’t tried it yet. Funny thing is, just last week, I had the perfect session to try it on snare, but I had forgotten I had it until this post! This has me curious! I just snagged one for $70 and it comes with a stand-alone phantom supply (figured at least that might come in handy) |
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Post by drumsound on May 29, 2022 23:15:07 GMT -6
Jim Williams turned me on to a stock ST31 for snare. I picked one up a while ago, but haven’t tried it yet. Funny thing is, just last week, I had the perfect session to try it on snare, but I had forgotten I had it until this post! This has me curious! I just snagged one for $70 and it comes with a stand-alone phantom supply (figured at least that might come in handy) Mine showed up Saturday, but I haven't used it yet. I hope it fits in a butterfly clip. If not, I think a wireless clip will work. |
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Post by phdamage on May 30, 2022 11:22:00 GMT -6
This has me curious! I just snagged one for $70 and it comes with a stand-alone phantom supply (figured at least that might come in handy) Mine showed up Saturday, but I haven't used it yet. I hope it fits in a butterfly clip. If not, I think a wireless clip will work. Any mic clip can work with enough gaffers tape! |
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Post by drumsound on May 30, 2022 12:29:00 GMT -6
Mine showed up Saturday, but I haven't used it yet. I hope it fits in a butterfly clip. If not, I think a wireless clip will work. Any mic clip can work with enough gaffers tape! TRUTH! |
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Post by Ward on May 31, 2022 7:06:41 GMT -6
I have two of these. Very bright microphone. Frank Sinatra actually used it as a live vocal mic. AKG made him a gold plated one. Kind of a cool microphone on hats. But the bleed is awful. |
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Post by jacobamerritt on May 31, 2022 14:25:50 GMT -6
I have two of these. Very bright microphone. Frank Sinatra actually used it as a live vocal mic. AKG made him a gold plated one. Kind of a cool microphone on hats. But the bleed is awful. I kinda like them as 'vibey' overheads sometimes. |
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Post by spindrift on May 31, 2022 21:52:11 GMT -6
Favorite by far: AKG C460 with the ring adapter and a CK1 capsule. Rejects bleed and captures the snare sound like you hear it when your playing it. KM84 is also great, of course. Beyer 930 is good on top or bottom. Neumann TLM102 also pretty good, but bleed isn't pleasant BLUE Kiwi in hypercardioid aimed at the snare from over the kick drum is also beautiful... great as a crotch mic. That's my preferred setup too. Akg ( I've used the 460, 452, 451) with the CK1 capsule. I feel like that mic has the right amount of brightness while slightly getting rid of some mids. On a really thin sounding snare I might prefer the 84 because the mids are more pronounced. AKG C452EB / CK1 was Al Schmitt’s choice on snare often as well. It’s a great sound. |
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Post by Ward on Jun 1, 2022 9:18:28 GMT -6
I have two of these. Very bright microphone. Frank Sinatra actually used it as a live vocal mic. AKG made him a gold plated one. Kind of a cool microphone on hats. But the bleed is awful. I kinda like them as 'vibey' overheads sometimes. True. And another AKG cheap product, the C1000 is also great for 'trashing' up cymbals in heavy music. In a good way. |
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Post by jacobamerritt on Jun 1, 2022 13:15:17 GMT -6
I kinda like them as 'vibey' overheads sometimes. True. And another AKG cheap product, the C1000 is also great for 'trashing' up cymbals in heavy music. In a good way. Yeah, my band did some recording with Alan Weatherhead (Sparklehorse, Cracker, etc) and I remember he had some C1000s up. If it works it works! |
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Post by recordingengineer on Jun 9, 2022 1:27:17 GMT -6
Well finally used the Sterling Audio ST31 on snare for a funk song tonight… All be damned if it didn’t come out sounding funky! Get up-a! Attachments:
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Post by drumsound on Jun 9, 2022 10:39:19 GMT -6
Well finally used the Sterling Audio ST31 on snare for a funk song tonight… All be damned if it didn’t come out sounding funky! Get up-a! Niiiiice. Are those some sort of podium mic you're using on overheads? |
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Post by recordingengineer on Jun 9, 2022 16:58:09 GMT -6
Those are DaviSound DaviSnakes… 4mm cardioid electret capsules setup with no body venting (in goosenecks in this case), so basically turned to omni. I’ve had to have tried dozens of OHs into a dozen mic pres over the years, but I must admit I’ve yet to find a better OH combo in this studio than these mics and the SSL Duality preamps. The combo keeps everything so naturally balanced and I can EQ as much top as I want while still sounding so smooth.
Next piano session, I’ll have to set them right next to the Earthworks Piano System on the C7 and see how they compare.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Feb 6, 2023 13:49:51 GMT -6
Thread revival... I'm looking at grabbing a dm20 for my rehearsal space recording setup. Can anyone comment on how well these things survive stick hits? I feel like the gooseneck would help cushion the blow, so that's a good thing. But who has experience using these with a sloppy striker?
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Post by phdamage on Feb 6, 2023 22:38:17 GMT -6
I still haven’t tried the ST31 I got. It’s kinda huge. Not exactly great for placement
Though I’m back on an m201 kick lately
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Post by Ward on Feb 7, 2023 7:36:24 GMT -6
I still haven’t tried the ST31 I got. It’s kinda huge. Not exactly great for placement Though I’m back on an m201 kick lately Placement is everything. If not, you end up with the dull thud sound from your snare that's so popular in new country music out of Nash today. I mastered that sound with an SM48 back in the 9th grade. Wish I had known that lack of skill would have been useful 3 decades later! |
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Post by sean on Feb 7, 2023 8:01:42 GMT -6
I'm constantly trying different microphones. A lot of times with condensers, even with a pad (AKG 460 comes to mind), comes back too hot. Low sensitive microphones like the Josephson e22s have too much hi-hat bleed. Heil PR30 is pretty huge and hard to place but does sound good. M201 sounds good but that presence peak can be nasty with hi-hats. T58 SM57 sounds good with a bit more bottom end than stock but it's still that snare sound we've heard a thousand times.
One of these days I'm going to break down and get one of the Oktava UP-012 that have the -20dB pad.
The dull thud is mostly from excessive dampening, which lowers the pitch and makes every hit a constant volume...which for most pop music sort of what you want. But I'm pretty tired of that sound myself!
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Feb 7, 2023 9:11:50 GMT -6
I still haven’t tried the ST31 I got. It’s kinda huge. Not exactly great for placement Though I’m back on an m201 kick lately Placement is everything. If not, you end up with the dull thud sound from your snare that's so popular in new country music out of Nash today. I mastered that sound with an SM48 back in the 9th grade. Wish I had known that lack of skill would have been useful 3 decades later! Someone asked me just a few days ago how to get that snare sound. “I don’t know, use a crappy mic with no transient response and move it around until the snare sounds nothing like a snare.” Easy. |
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Post by Ward on Feb 7, 2023 9:22:49 GMT -6
Placement is everything. If not, you end up with the dull thud sound from your snare that's so popular in new country music out of Nash today. I mastered that sound with an SM48 back in the 9th grade. Wish I had known that lack of skill would have been useful 3 decades later! Someone asked me just a few days ago how to get that snare sound. “I don’t know, use a crappy mic with no transient response and move it around until the snare sounds nothing like a snare.” Easy. LMAO!! I see you've been giving lessons lately. It's really caught on. A client of mine submitted one of his new singles to Sirius-XM and was asked if he could get the producer to change the snare sound to something more modern a thuddy. Apparently, it sounded too much like a snare. |
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Post by mcirish on Feb 7, 2023 11:06:40 GMT -6
I use an Oktava MC-012 with the -10dB pad in combination with an i5. The i5 is my current favorite on snare. Sort of like a 57 with a more open top end. The MC-012 gives a little smoother and broader sound. I align the capsules as close as possible and do about a 50-50 thing with them. I still use a snare side mic. Usually an old ATM63. I just dial that in a little.
As everyone has said, placement is everything. I remember doing a session years ago and they wanted the mic pulled up away from the rim and more just to pick up the center of the head. No crack, all pillowy. Then they complained about the sound during mixdown. You can't win sometimes. I hate using sample replacement on a good drummer, but sometimes it's the only way to salvage a recording. That dull thud with distortion is super prevalent in so much stuff now. Not my favorite sound.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Feb 7, 2023 18:00:30 GMT -6
What happened to all the dm20 guys?
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