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Post by gravesnumber9 on Nov 22, 2021 9:33:13 GMT -6
Here's what I mean by the question.
Over the weekend I decided to really set up my UAD Console templates and my I/O templates in S1 all the way. First of all, this was a really fun exercise and if you haven't done it lately I highly recommend it. I named all of my "locked in place" channels for the outboard gear that's locked on it and then in S1 set up all my Pipeline plugins on a Favorite list with the name of the outboard gear and the proper I/O routing.
Kind of fun to just grab a "plugin" labeled OptoComp or something and then have my AS Opto needle bumping in two seconds flat. Maybe other did this a long time ago!
Anyway, the question is this...
As a result of this setup, I've found myself less inclined to physically repatch things. I used to patch analog as much as possible to avoid too many round trips through conversion. But with my new super convenient "plugin" setup, it's so much easier to just not worry about the conversion trips and drop in multiple instances of pipeline on an Insert.
What about you all?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 10:31:33 GMT -6
One of the reasons I only use tracking HW, all I have to do is hit record and I've never re-patched once  .. |
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Post by Tbone81 on Nov 22, 2021 10:35:35 GMT -6
That’s how I’ve always done it. In Cubase you can save all your hw plug-ins. I don’t worry about the multiple I/o trips. Most of my hardware has like 2-3 settings at most so it’s easy to recall. I use the channel notepad to write down any setting changes. Takes me 30 seconds to recall an entire session. It’s worth noting that I’m only using 5 pieces of hw max per session.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Nov 22, 2021 10:41:04 GMT -6
That’s how I’ve always done it. In Cubase you can save all your hw plug-ins. I don’t worry about the multiple I/o trips. Most of my hardware has like 2-3 settings at most so it’s easy to recall. I use the channel notepad to write down any setting changes. Takes me 30 seconds to recall an entire session. It’s worth noting that I’m only using 5 pieces of hw max per session. I mean honestly... even if the roundtrip conversion was a "thing" I think I'd just deal with it. That's how much more convenient this setup is. I also find myself using more of my less premium outboard gear than I normally would just because it's so easy to access. Whereas before I might have been like "meh, the PRO VLA isn't all that great, why bother" now I'm like "well, the PRO VLA works on some things, let's try it here it'll only take two seconds to hear it." I can't believe it took me this long to go this route. |
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Post by tim on Nov 24, 2021 21:41:49 GMT -6
I just rewired my patchbay last weekend like this. It's pretty sweet to just select a hardware insert without having to patch any cables.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Nov 25, 2021 0:28:12 GMT -6
I just rewired my patchbay last weekend like this. It's pretty sweet to just select a hardware insert without having to patch any cables. One week in and it’s still inducing joy. |
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Post by prene1 on Nov 27, 2021 5:52:05 GMT -6
That’s how I first started. All of a sudden I amassed so many toys and started to also track with them and then turn around and use it again in a mix.
I could have saved a lot just tracking flat ITB but my inner analog side said NOPE!
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Post by drbill on Nov 27, 2021 11:36:43 GMT -6
<snip> Maybe other did this a long time ago! <snip> What about you all? Long, long time ago. And yes, I tend to patch via the DAW vs. via patch cables. For one, it's instant recall, second, I'm not really hearing any difference to speak of. Not worried about multiple conversions after conversion #1. |
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Post by drbill on Nov 27, 2021 11:39:05 GMT -6
I just rewired my patchbay last weekend like this. It's pretty sweet to just select a hardware insert without having to patch any cables. One week in and it’s still inducing joy. My guess is that it will induce so much joy, that you'll start buying more outboard, and attain more I/o. At least that's what happened here. 112 I/o and at least that much outboard. Growing all the time. Dropping in hardware vs. a plugin brings a big smile to my face almost always. |
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Nov 27, 2021 11:57:32 GMT -6
One week in and it’s still inducing joy. My guess is that it will induce so much joy, that you'll start buying more outboard, and attain more I/o. At least that's what happened here. 112 I/o and at least that much outboard. Growing all the time. Dropping in hardware vs. a plugin brings a big smile to my face almost always. You're not wrong. I've got 28 In / 24 Out right now that are pretty much all filled up. I'm limited by physical space for the time being which is probably a blessing in disguise for my bottom line. |
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Post by tripalot on Nov 28, 2021 7:50:54 GMT -6
Doesn't patching via DAW introduces too much latency in monitoring while playing due to multiple conversions?
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Nov 28, 2021 8:06:22 GMT -6
Doesn't patching via DAW introduces too much latency in monitoring while playing due to multiple conversions? Latency was unnoticeable on the Apollo anyway. Not sure about other systems. |
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Post by Guitar on Nov 28, 2021 8:13:21 GMT -6
When I was hybrid, I used the Cubase External Effects method TBone81 was talking about, so yeah, it's a great way to go. Very convenient.
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Nov 29, 2021 22:35:08 GMT -6
I run hardware inserts to PT and also a Flock 32. Multiple options but agree that it's the way to go.
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