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Post by cowboycoalminer on May 7, 2014 8:12:47 GMT -6
I sold my Blackspade UM 17r awhile back cause it wasn't getting as much use. Now I have major heartburn over it to the point I emailed the guy and asked if he was satisfied with it and told him I'd buy it back if he wasn't . I miss it for certain things. Anybody else have these kinds of experiences?
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Post by Johnkenn on May 7, 2014 8:51:17 GMT -6
I would think that CV4 would cover that ground...no?
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Post by tonycamphd on May 7, 2014 9:10:03 GMT -6
I pretty much hoard, if I open a box or drawer after a year or more, and say "oh yeah, I remember you", I'll then think about unloading it. That's prob why my place is currently OOC
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Post by svart on May 7, 2014 9:52:40 GMT -6
I hate selling gear because it's almost inevitable that if I sell anything of significant value on Ebay, I'll get "chargeback" scammed, or the buyer will want to return it because they had buyers remorse or found it cheaper and I'll end up eating the shipping and fees because Ebay and Paypal will always side with the buyer over the seller.
Craigslist in the ATL almost always means getting robbed at gunpoint, even in broad daylight at a shopping center too.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 7, 2014 9:53:33 GMT -6
I run a foster home for gear...
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Post by Martin John Butler on May 7, 2014 10:22:51 GMT -6
Yes, it's been known to happen in the Butler household on occasion, mostly certain guitars I should have kept. Such as, a 1962 Gretsch Country Club w. top of the line upgrades done at the Gretsch factory when it was made, so it was one of a kind, a 1951 Fender Esquire, my 1968 Les Paul Deluxe, with a 1959 neck, aarrgghh...
The U17 R's a funny animal, so it understandable how you could have let it go. When I did the shootout between my U17 R (Blueline), and the Lauten Atlantis, I immediately was charmed by the Atlantis, which has a huge sound, very U47 FET-ish, better than most U87's. In comparison, the U17R seemed a little thin. After sending files to cowboy and kcat, I kept listening to the tests I did, and I began to notice strong sibilance in the Atlantis, and an exaggerated low end that would definitely need some heavy EQ, (cowboy noticed it way before I did), and the U17R sounded "pre-mixed", no need for de-esser, hardly any need for EQ, and it just shined right through the dense track, without needing to be boosted. There's something in the mids that reminds me of the C12 I used once, I can only describe it as more sustain, the middle of the notes seems to linger beautifully, which of course makes no sense, but there it is. Shannon thinks it's Oliver Archut's BV-8 transformer design.
So, my ears evolved, the mic was superb all along. I suspect cowboy, your ears are improving as you do more and more work, and now, you really hear the U17R for what it is. So far, it's my favorite mic, short of the original C12, U67 or U47's, and those, I haven't used often enough to have a well grounded opinion. The C12 had the most flattering quality of any single mic I've tried. It's probably 15k now, ugh..
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Post by Johnkenn on May 7, 2014 10:37:51 GMT -6
I don't really regret anything I've sold...because I probably needed the money at the time...and I could always buy another one...Also, if I hadn't sold the stuff I've sold, I wouldn't have the stuff I have now - and I'd like to think every move(s) I've made has been on the road to bettering my sound. Maybe the Santa Cruz D/PW Bearclaw top with Mahogany B&S...
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Post by Johnkenn on May 7, 2014 10:42:29 GMT -6
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Post by warren on May 7, 2014 10:43:47 GMT -6
I usually sell and get something I felt was better so luckily I haven't had too many regrets in selling gear. But yeah, sometimes I do miss somethings but then I look at what I replaced it and feel a little better
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Post by cowboycoalminer on May 7, 2014 11:41:06 GMT -6
We always seem to want beef in a vocal mic. Fair enough. But that's not always what's needed. I think a high biased mic is just the ticket sometimes. They seem to sit so much better in a busy mix without having to eq so much. That's what I miss about it.
Anybody here used the Manley Ref C? I'm told it has that high forward thing going on.
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Post by RicFoxx on May 7, 2014 11:55:38 GMT -6
We always seem to want beef in a vocal mic. Fair enough. But that's not always what's needed. I think a high biased mic is just the ticket sometimes. They seem to sit so much better in a busy mix without having to eq so much. That's what I miss about it. Anybody here used the Manley Ref C? I'm told it has that high forward thing going on. cowboycoalminer The BGVs for Daniels song were done through the Manley Ref C.
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Post by Martin John Butler on May 7, 2014 12:17:43 GMT -6
We always seem to want beef in a vocal mic. Fair enough. But that's not always what's needed. I think a high biased mic is just the ticket sometimes. They seem to sit so much better in a busy mix without having to eq so much. That's what I miss about it. cowboycoalminer The BGVs for Daniels song were done through the Manley Ref C. Exactly, that's been my experience. The U17R pushes somewhere that is exactly where a vocal needs pushing in a modern production, think, "The Highway Don't Care", like that. The same "high bias" can be said of some C12's, and yet, it just rocks. What I'm discovering is the U17R when paired with certain preamps does have all the beef you want. Using the Jenson opamp in my ToneBeast, it's thin, using the John Hardy opamp, a little fuller, using the 731 opamp, full bottom. So, I'd choose preamps based on the general sound you want. My guess, the Heritage 73 or the upcoming UAD 73 preamp plug would be sweet with the U17R.
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Post by matt on May 7, 2014 12:39:47 GMT -6
cowboycoalminer The BGVs for Daniels song were done through the Manley Ref C. using the 731 opamp, full bottom. I've always preferred Full Bottom. Seriously though, one of the things I like about the CP Notre Dame is that it has a smooth gradient for proximity. We have figured out the best distance given my vocalist's voice characteristics, and what type of general vocal sound we want: on the mic for the huge low-end Voice Of God/voiceover thing, and off the mic (set by the pop filter distance) for everything else. If we get it right, there is little EQ fixing required. This approach requires good technique though. If my friend blows a take because of poor technique, he loses a ration of alcohol.
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Post by Ward on May 7, 2014 12:54:40 GMT -6
I don't understand the thread... what is this word "sell"?
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Post by wiz on May 7, 2014 15:56:03 GMT -6
I don't think I have ever had sellers remorse...
Buyers remorse on the other hand...........
8)
cheers
Wiz
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Post by svart on May 7, 2014 17:35:09 GMT -6
and just today, I sold my old Alphalink on Ebay. I require immediate payment. Seller sends me a reply to my invoice that states they will pay me on the 27th of june. They have zero feedback and just joined. I requested to cancel the auction due to requiring immediate payment, and Ebay sent the seller a message asking them if they would like to cancel the auction and of course they declined and sent me another message saying that they will pay on june 27th. I'm not going to wait more than a month to see if they'll pay up.
I have zero ability to stop this according to Ebay. tomorrow I'll call and bitch and see if a real human understands what is going on here, but I smell fraud.
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Post by warren on May 7, 2014 17:45:24 GMT -6
I thought if it required immediate payment, they had to pay on the spot or maybe that's just with buy it now. Wow that sucks
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Post by RicFoxx on May 7, 2014 17:45:34 GMT -6
I believe you can set your auction up to not allow buyers with no feedback to bid.
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Post by tonycamphd on May 7, 2014 18:01:20 GMT -6
i was always under the impression folks had 4 days to pay?
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Post by jsteiger on May 7, 2014 19:10:41 GMT -6
In 1994 (before some of you were born!) I bought a Neve BCM10 that was loaded with 1066's and beautiful. I paid $11k for it and sold it almost immediately for $18k. I thought I was king shit. That desk now is $45k plus. Don't ever sell the really good stuff unless you are about to loose your house.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 7, 2014 20:09:37 GMT -6
Ouch
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Post by cowboycoalminer on May 7, 2014 20:21:50 GMT -6
We always seem to want beef in a vocal mic. Fair enough. But that's not always what's needed. I think a high biased mic is just the ticket sometimes. They seem to sit so much better in a busy mix without having to eq so much. That's what I miss about it. Anybody here used the Manley Ref C? I'm told it has that high forward thing going on. cowboycoalminer The BGVs for Daniels song were done through the Manley Ref C. RicFoxx I remembered those sounding really good and I pulled up the old session and had another listen. That mic sounds awesome on your voice. I'm assuming that you own it?
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Post by RicFoxx on May 7, 2014 20:56:36 GMT -6
cowboycoalminer The BGVs for Daniels song were done through the Manley Ref C. RicFoxx I remembered those sounding really good and I pulled up the old session and had another listen. That mic sounds awesome on your voice. I'm assuming that you own it? Nope I borrowed it to do those BGVS because my mics weren't finished yet and the AEA R84 was not working for the BGVs but I to went back to listen and thought to myself that is the perfect mic for me. I was about to pull the trigger on one but decided to go with the Gibson J45 and DIY47 from groupDIY.
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Post by jcoutu1 on May 7, 2014 21:50:44 GMT -6
and just today, I sold my old Alphalink on Ebay. I require immediate payment. Seller sends me a reply to my invoice that states they will pay me on the 27th of june. They have zero feedback and just joined. I requested to cancel the auction due to requiring immediate payment, and Ebay sent the seller a message asking them if they would like to cancel the auction and of course they declined and sent me another message saying that they will pay on june 27th. I'm not going to wait more than a month to see if they'll pay up. I have zero ability to stop this according to Ebay. tomorrow I'll call and bitch and see if a real human understands what is going on here, but I smell fraud. Technically, after 48 hours you can open a dispute with eBay. After 4 days of the dispute being open, you can close that, he'll get a strike on his account, and you can relist. I sold my Phoenix a couple weeks ago on eBay. He offered a price, I countered and he accepted. Guy had 700+ positive feedbacks at 100%. Didn't pay right away, so I messaged him to see when he was going to pay. He gave me some story about losing his wallet and to give him a couple days to sort it. Couple days go by, no messages or anything, so I message him again. Then I find him on Gearslutz and message him there. Tells me he needs another day. Next day, still don't hear from him so I opened a dispute with eBay. He responds immediately then saying he would pay the next day. No payment. 4 days later, I was able to close the case with eBay, get my fees refunded, and relist the item. In the meantime, I had a couple people inquire about it and told them that it was sold. Ended up losing those buyers and lost a week of listing time. Huge pain in the balls and he's still out there with his 100% feedback and a strike against his account that nobody, except eBay, sees.
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Post by warren on May 7, 2014 22:24:46 GMT -6
and just today, I sold my old Alphalink on Ebay. I require immediate payment. Seller sends me a reply to my invoice that states they will pay me on the 27th of june. They have zero feedback and just joined. I requested to cancel the auction due to requiring immediate payment, and Ebay sent the seller a message asking them if they would like to cancel the auction and of course they declined and sent me another message saying that they will pay on june 27th. I'm not going to wait more than a month to see if they'll pay up. I have zero ability to stop this according to Ebay. tomorrow I'll call and bitch and see if a real human understands what is going on here, but I smell fraud. Technically, after 48 hours you can open a dispute with eBay. After 4 days of the dispute being open, you can close that, he'll get a strike on his account, and you can relist. I sold my Phoenix a couple weeks ago on eBay. He offered a price, I countered and he accepted. Guy had 700+ positive feedbacks at 100%. Didn't pay right away, so I messaged him to see when he was going to pay. He gave me some story about losing his wallet and to give him a couple days to sort it. Couple days go by, no messages or anything, so I message him again. Then I find him on Gearslutz and message him there. Tells me he needs another day. Next day, still don't hear from him so I opened a dispute with eBay. He responds immediately then saying he would pay the next day. No payment. 4 days later, I was able to close the case with eBay, get my fees refunded, and relist the item. In the meantime, I had a couple people inquire about it and told them that it was sold. Ended up losing those buyers and lost a week of listing time. Huge pain in the balls and he's still out there with his 100% feedback and a strike against his account that nobody, except eBay, sees. wait wait wait, how come the public can't see? As a seller, I'd want to see stuff like that because I don't know... it's kinda umm important
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