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Post by brenta on Sept 2, 2021 6:15:14 GMT -6
I think it'll become more of a thing. I have zero qualms about the Wes Audio stuff as far as function and sound. I do have some concern about repair. I can fix my CAPI stuff but these would have to go in. So I hope they stay in business. I'm any case, ordering a Rhea asap. Here is the thing, recall and automated rack gear should be the standard, but because there is no standard protocol it isn’t. Guys who have been around a while avoid it because they know what happens, a company makes a great piece of gear, the company either disappears or drops it and support it. So to run it with recall I need to keep a legacy computer around and running. Now one legacy cpu isn’t bad, but if I had gone down this road with every cool new recallable box I have lusted after I would have to devote 5 times the rack space to legacy Computers to run them. I’ve heard this argument but I don’t think it fits for the Wesaudio gear. Even if the company goes under and the plugins stop being supported, I still have a great sounding, fully functional analog device that has more features and is less expensive than a similar SSL device. |
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Post by brenta on Sept 2, 2021 6:17:53 GMT -6
This looks awesome. I've been hoping and waiting for Wesaudio to come out with some tube/transformer devices. I've already got the Dione, Hyperion, and Prometheus. Big Wesaudio fan here. I'm kinda surprised that this idea of plugin controlled and recallable analog hardware hasn't caught on more. I ain't got time, energy, or patience for recall. Having presets on hardware is great, and being able to manipulate it using the plugin is great. I hope Wesaudio keeps cranking this stuff out. Check out Tegeler. Full digital controlled devices that are full rack units. Some really cool units. Yeah I’ve been wanting a Tegeler Schwerkraftmaschine for years. Haven’t been able to come up with the cash. The Rhea is a little more affordable although not as versatile. |
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Post by Mister Chase on Sept 2, 2021 8:38:53 GMT -6
I think it'll become more of a thing. I have zero qualms about the Wes Audio stuff as far as function and sound. I do have some concern about repair. I can fix my CAPI stuff but these would have to go in. So I hope they stay in business. I'm any case, ordering a Rhea asap. Here is the thing, recall and automated rack gear should be the standard, but because there is no standard protocol it isn’t. Guys who have been around a while avoid it because they know what happens, a company makes a great piece of gear, the company either disappears or drops it and support it. So to run it with recall I need to keep a legacy computer around and running. Now one legacy cpu isn’t bad, but if I had gone down this road with every cool new recallable box I have lusted after I would have to devote 5 times the rack space to legacy Computers to run them. And those are great points, honestly. Computers are fickle bastards. I mean, at some point the same thing happens to plugins to a degree, though more on Mac than Win.
Don't you think there will be some kind of inflection point where this will get over the hump and become more of a standard thing? Sure it will, despite the obvious issues with standardization.
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Post by ericn on Sept 2, 2021 17:52:25 GMT -6
Here is the thing, recall and automated rack gear should be the standard, but because there is no standard protocol it isn’t. Guys who have been around a while avoid it because they know what happens, a company makes a great piece of gear, the company either disappears or drops it and support it. So to run it with recall I need to keep a legacy computer around and running. Now one legacy cpu isn’t bad, but if I had gone down this road with every cool new recallable box I have lusted after I would have to devote 5 times the rack space to legacy Computers to run them. And those are great points, honestly. Computers are fickle bastards. I mean, at some point the same thing happens to plugins to a degree, though more on Mac than Win.
Don't you think there will be some kind of inflection point where this will get over the hump and become more of a standard thing? Sure it will, despite the obvious issues with standardization.
The other problem with trying to sell gear with recall is the expense of the additional electronics. An LA2 with recall will cost more than one without, as well as the design challenges of making sure those electronics play well with the audio path. |
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Post by Mister Chase on Sept 2, 2021 18:43:28 GMT -6
And those are great points, honestly. Computers are fickle bastards. I mean, at some point the same thing happens to plugins to a degree, though more on Mac than Win.
Don't you think there will be some kind of inflection point where this will get over the hump and become more of a standard thing? Sure it will, despite the obvious issues with standardization.
The other problem with trying to sell gear with recall is the expense of the additional electronics. An LA2 with recall will cost more than one without, as well as the design challenges of making sure those electronics play well with the audio path. True, but I just don't think it'll be an "LA2" in the traditional sense. Probably more like the incantations by Wes Audio rather than the former. I ended up with a stereo/dual mono/mid side SS pultec(prometheus) for $1399. Hardly more than a single channel 500 series SS Pultec. So I guess it all depends on what kind of gear we are talking and how it is implemented. A bit apples and oranges but that's what I kind of mean, it'll be new designs based on older ones. Like this new Rhea.
I suppose demand is part of it. If enough people are mixing that want analog sounds that are recallable, it'll probably happen. Actually, I think it is now.
Could be wrong, though.
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Post by plinker on Sept 17, 2023 12:20:41 GMT -6
Anyone rocking one of these?
If I purchase 2, will I have di-rhea?
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Post by ericn on Sept 17, 2023 12:32:35 GMT -6
Anyone rocking one of these? If I purchase 2, will I have di-rhea? Have you been spending time with Chris? |
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Post by plinker on Sept 17, 2023 12:57:53 GMT -6
Anyone rocking one of these? If I purchase 2, will I have di-rhea? Have you been spending time with Chris? I started channeling him in another thread, and can't seem to quit... |
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Post by niklas1073 on Sept 18, 2023 3:52:40 GMT -6
For me the recall-ability of stepped switches has actually been enough to go back for retakes. Would like to see more brands taking that approach. As ericn mentioned there is some possible longterm issues with the digital ones. I am a huge WES fan myself though I only have their non hybrid product.
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Post by kbsmoove on Oct 18, 2023 10:59:17 GMT -6
Anyone rocking one of these? If I purchase 2, will I have di-rhea? I haven't bought one, but i tried one of these the other day. just tested it across a mix on some recent loud, low tuned fast music (think metal but with punk aesthetics). Sounds awesome. Can dig deep into GR without sounding congested. Great low mids, tames the subs a little but sounds huge. having separate in/out and threshold controls allows you to drive the box as much as you'd like and set compression independently which is really useful if you want color. the additional THD switch settings are maybe a bit extreme, but i deal in the extremes so i'm kinda into it. i imagine it'd be pretty incredible on drum or guitar bus but i only had a short time to play with it so i didn't get to test that. I plan on getting one of these, and will be getting their ngleveler to automate my console. quality, excellent sounding stuff and affordable. |
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