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Post by Blackdawg on Jul 21, 2021 20:29:40 GMT -6
Well..i tried to get one. But the site seemed to crash. The add to cart button never loaded. So that's a bummer.. Edit: Never mind finally did! I got one! Anyone else? Congrats! I'm waiting for them to release their spring reverb unit, but really curious to hear what you think of the Neve pre. I am also interested in that unit. Really want a D3a too despite its high cost. But hasn't been in stock in a while.
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Post by Ward on Jul 22, 2021 6:37:44 GMT -6
Congrats! I'm waiting for them to release their spring reverb unit, but really curious to hear what you think of the Neve pre. I am also interested in that unit. Really want a D3a too despite its high cost. But hasn't been in stock in a while. I will admit, I was skeptical about the LA3a recreation in the V3a, but was blown away in that it performs and sounds EXACTLY like my old UA LA3a (which is in pristine condition and well-maintained). Both the V3a and D3a are more than worth the money, they are a bargain at twice the price.
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Post by Ward on Jul 22, 2021 6:38:53 GMT -6
Well..i tried to get one. But the site seemed to crash. The add to cart button never loaded. So that's a bummer.. Edit: Never mind finally did! I got one! Anyone else? Lucky duck!! I have two slots open for a pair I'll procure sometime next quarter.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jul 22, 2021 6:40:38 GMT -6
I am also interested in that unit. Really want a D3a too despite its high cost. But hasn't been in stock in a while. I will admit, I was skeptical about the LA3a recreation in the V3a, but was blown away in that it performs and sounds EXACTLY like my old UA LA3a (which is in pristine condition and well-maintained). Both the V3a and D3a are more than worth the money, they are a bargain at twice the price. Video? I wouldn't mind seeing a stereo tracked acoustic. Put left through the 3a, right through the audioscape. Let's see how that action lines up!
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Post by Ward on Jul 22, 2021 6:43:49 GMT -6
jcoutu1, I'll see what I can do. The LA3a in question is 8' away from the 500 chassis. They used to be closer, but I moved stuff around. I'm like that. Annoyingly helpful.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jul 22, 2021 7:08:48 GMT -6
jcoutu1, I'll see what I can do. The LA3a in question is 8' away from the 500 chassis. They used to be closer, but I moved stuff around. I'm like that. Annoyingly helpful. I'm sure the meters bounce differently anyway. No worries. Audio would be cool though!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2021 23:23:35 GMT -6
I'm curious, is it running on 16V or stepping up internally?
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Post by Guitar on Jul 25, 2021 3:48:34 GMT -6
I'm curious, is it running on 16V or stepping up internally?
Looks like there's a nice TDK Lambda IC riding shotgun there near the power rails. I don't want to say too much but that's in the photograph for anyone to puzzle about.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 25, 2021 12:43:03 GMT -6
No doubt this is going to sound great. I’d be in line to buy if I didn’t already have that area covered…although, I’d love to hear how it compares. We’re in a great spot as far as Neve clones these days.
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Post by ericn on Jul 26, 2021 6:03:34 GMT -6
$800 isn't the considerable savings you see on most of their other gear but there's probably good reason for that. I'm surprised how AudioScape continues to find the parts for their products these days while some other boutique builders have really stalled because of Covid-caused supply chain issues. Bringing out a new product right now, between parts shortages and inflation, I would probably price a bit higher than normal. I would not want to have to raise the price in a couple of months or lose money. In fact I wouldn’t be surprised if some manufacturers held back new products till the supply chain settles down.
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Post by lpedrum on Jul 26, 2021 7:50:55 GMT -6
$800 isn't the considerable savings you see on most of their other gear but there's probably good reason for that. I'm surprised how AudioScape continues to find the parts for their products these days while some other boutique builders have really stalled because of Covid-caused supply chain issues. Bringing out a new product right now, between parts shortages and inflation, I would probably price a bit higher than normal. I would not want to have to raise the price in a couple of months or lose money. In fact I wouldn’t be surprised if some manufacturers held back new products till the supply chain settles down. You're probably right. AudioScape tries very hard to keep their prices affordable, so there's most likely parts in the this new pre that warrant the $800 price tag. Would I have liked it priced at $600 like their other 500 pre? Sure! But I'm not running a gear business. Has anyone reviewed it yet?
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Post by Blackdawg on Jul 26, 2021 9:58:12 GMT -6
Mine arrives Thursday. Hope to track a bit with it late this week or early next week.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jul 30, 2021 18:50:16 GMT -6
Got mine today. Probably the heaviest 500 unit I've ever handled.
Recording with it Monday or Tuesday!
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Jul 31, 2021 8:12:23 GMT -6
Got mine today. Probably the heaviest 500 unit I've ever handled. Recording with it Monday or Tuesday! Heavy is a good sign. Lots of iron in the transformer. The RTZ's are like that as well. Makes all the difference IMO.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jul 31, 2021 10:26:18 GMT -6
Got mine today. Probably the heaviest 500 unit I've ever handled. Recording with it Monday or Tuesday! That's how my sound skulptor mp573s are. Crazy beefy.
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Post by Guitar on Jul 31, 2021 11:23:33 GMT -6
Same here with the Five Fish NK-72DI. It's like a double whopper of tone.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jul 31, 2021 11:56:02 GMT -6
All that iron! Ha
Looking forward to hearing it.
It is too wide for my case. It close with a sticker on the side to remove the side panel if it doesn't fit. Which is interesting. Might as well not have a fully enclosed case if it's not vpr width compliant
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Post by the other mark williams on Jul 31, 2021 22:13:22 GMT -6
All that iron! Ha Looking forward to hearing it. It is too wide for my case. It close with a sticker on the side to remove the side panel if it doesn't fit. Which is interesting. Might as well not have a fully enclosed case if it's not vpr width compliant Looking forward to hearing your thoughts once you've heard it!
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Post by ciscokid on Aug 1, 2021 2:29:18 GMT -6
All that iron! Ha Looking forward to hearing it. It is too wide for my case. It close with a sticker on the side to remove the side panel if it doesn't fit. Which is interesting. Might as well not have a fully enclosed case if it's not vpr width compliant AudioScape have the covers on their other 500 series models as well. I’ve had to remove the covers to fit in the rack every time. A head scratcher for sure
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Post by Blackdawg on Aug 1, 2021 11:52:59 GMT -6
All that iron! Ha Looking forward to hearing it. It is too wide for my case. It close with a sticker on the side to remove the side panel if it doesn't fit. Which is interesting. Might as well not have a fully enclosed case if it's not vpr width compliant AudioScape have the covers on their other 500 series models as well. I’ve had to remove the covers to fit in the rack every time. A head scratcher for sure And while the powder coated case looks great. That's an expense I'd gladly not pay for seeing as I never see it once it's installed. And a fully enclosed case is another expense that seems unnecessary.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2021 13:17:23 GMT -6
And it sounds...? I'm dying here.
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Post by Blackdawg on Aug 1, 2021 14:36:53 GMT -6
And it sounds...? I'm dying here. Sorry! Have a session this week on Monday or Tuesday. Should be fun will have acoustic guitar to track, up right bass, banjo and maybe mandolin.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2021 16:32:40 GMT -6
And it sounds...? I'm dying here. Sorry! Have a session this week on Monday or Tuesday. Should be fun will have acoustic guitar to track, up right bass, banjo and maybe mandolin. LOL, commence the comparisons immediately! I’m kidding. Have a great session.
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 1, 2021 16:57:02 GMT -6
Hey audioscape send me a demo and I’ll do files with it against the Stam.
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Post by audioscape on Aug 2, 2021 18:41:48 GMT -6
@johnkenn - Mwhahaha, we may just do that, but they can't stay on the shelf long enough to pull one out for a demo at the moment 😁! We'll try to address a few questions in this thread and add a little informative context: The Lid Design:The V3A was our first 500-series design and all of our subsequent cases follow this core design. The lid was added for more than just the aesthetic here. It adds an extra layer of darkness for the photocells in that design, there is foam around them and a top EL Panel board, but some light can still get in and can shift the 'zero' point while in the GR Meter Mode. If there isn't a module directly next to the V3A, we recommend keeping the lid on. We realize that not every person has their 500-series chassis jam-packed, so it was necessary to add this to the design. Subsequent products that followed still keep the lid - that and the powder coat don't add much to the cost for us on the case, which brings me to the next point. The Price:lpedrum and a few others alluded to it, but it's true. The amount saved on the case, power transformer, and XLR's get negated by the amount of labor it takes to put each one of these together. Straight up PITA. A lot packed in a small space, but we're not going to sacrifice anything component-wise, making assembling them considerably more complex and time-intensive. And then there's the cost of the COMPONENTS. We're putting the same high-grade components as companies that charge considerably more and going to the ends of the earth to find obsolete active parts (at a far higher expense, with limited availability on the surplus market). The TDK is a DC-DC converter and not a cheap part as well ;-) We are a glutton for punishment and often do things the hard way, but we feel it shines in the final product and sound! 👍 $679 for a killer 3A recreation in 500-series format. $799 for a legit, well-done 1290 with decades-long obsolete original transistors. FWIW, the cost of EVERYTHING we use to make all of our products has gone up considerably over the years. Even an IEC socket is 3X the cost in QTY from when we started. We haven't raised our prices despite all of this. Having turnkey US labor here on-site and still maintaining that standard is something we're pretty proud of. 😎 Hope this helps clear things up a bit for everyone! As always, we appreciate ALL of your support, comments and questions! 🙏
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