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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 29, 2021 10:00:37 GMT -6
That's a wise suggestion Mark.
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Post by tkaitkai on Jul 29, 2021 10:06:31 GMT -6
Good luck, keep us posted on your progress. Great post Martin. I totally agree that my voice is on the edgy side. My singing is obnoxiously loud and abrasive, and it's been a real struggle trying to reign it in over the years. I will forever be jealous of the people who can put up any old mic + interface in an untreated room and sound beautiful. Put the wrong mic in front of me (even something halfway decent, like a TLM 102) and it sounds like utterly unusable dogshit. I actually haven't tried a Burl ADC (unless you count the AD/DA on Mix:Analog), just their B1 mic pre. I'd love to get my hands on one. It'd also be neat to try something like a Zulu to see if it helps mitigate the brittleness. I'm definitely a big believer in analog, but my bank account isn't too happy about it. Just to note, however, that kcat is using the newest generation of Aurora converters, whereas tkaitkai is using the older converters. So IMO it's worth it for him to try different converters just to see if it addresses what he's hearing. tkaitkai , it may or may not help, but if you don't try it, I suspect you'll always wonder. My thoughts exactly. A different ADC may or may not solve the problem, but I'd rather have a definitive answer than be sitting around wondering.
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Post by rowmat on Jul 29, 2021 19:58:05 GMT -6
Edgy vocals!
I had issues with harsh vocals on an album I recorded a few years ago which nearly drove me crazy.
Abrasive upper mids which I initially thought was something in the vocal chain distorting.
After switching out a Flea 47 for a Bock 251 and then a Rode NTR ribbon along with several preamps and completely bypassing the patchbay I finally walked out into the studio and listened to the vocal in the studio. (Yep when in doubt listen to the actual source! - DOH!!)
And there it was. Coming right out of his throat.
Sounded like nodules on his vocal chords.
He acknowledged he had a raspy voice but this was more that I was used to.
What aggrevated it was he never sent the demo tracks to the session players two weeks before the session as we thought he had, so when the players turned up they had never even heard the songs.
He had to run through the each song several times.
So instead of essentially doing two or three takes they did at least three or four run throughs first and then another two or three takes.
By the time we started laying down the tracks proper he had basically blown out his vocal chords.
This remained for the next few days and as he had travelled from interstate to record and, although I hoped he would take a break and come back to retrack his vocals when his voice and recovered, he didn’t have the budget and we had other sessions in the pipeline.
Anyway after much use of the newly acquired Soothe plug-in and an bunch of other tweaking I couldn’t get all the edginess out of his vocal without effectively making it sound obvious.
So in the end it was what it was.
However he did sing the line.... “You set my throat on fire.”
So maybe it was meant to be?
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Post by Guitar on Jul 30, 2021 7:40:36 GMT -6
This is sort of a fun topic about the voice. Mine is naturally dark when I get loud, but I have to be careful. I was singing "A Day In The Life" the other day and actually drove someone out of the room for a few minutes. All the respiratory infections going around right now don't help the case much.
So there's my litmus test. If people are leaving the room when you sing, maybe calm it down a little bit and focus on technique, LOL!
It's all well and good to "forget yourself" and "go for it" but there is some limit to that, the limit of going too far.
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