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Post by reddirt on Jul 8, 2021 0:04:08 GMT -6
Guys,
My Michael Joly modded Apex 205 has lost it's mojo (volume and tone). I'd love to have him look at it but I'm in Australia and he's out of the game these days anyway.
If anyone can suggest an Australian repair solution that would br cool; failing that , what's a great ribbon option to record fiddle (warm without bow edginess and/or self noise) at a cool price. The Royer R 10 piqued my interest as does the AEA R 84 - any one excited by anything on Fiddle without breaking the bank?
Cheers, Ross
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Post by wiz on Jul 8, 2021 0:47:35 GMT -6
Guys, My Michael Joly modded Apex 205 has lost it's mojo (volume and tone). I'd love to have him look at it but I'm in Australia and he's out of the game these days anyway. If anyone can suggest an Australian repair solution that would br cool; failing that , what's a great ribbon option to record fiddle (warm without bow edginess and/or self noise) at a cool price. The Royer R 10 piqued my interest as does the AEA R 84 - any one excited by anything on Fiddle without breaking the bank? Cheers, Ross There is a couple of dudes.... doing re ribboning.... one is the OPR fella.. and the other one I know of.. is ummm.... hadaja who did you use? Phiminister??? cheers WIz |
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Post by chessparov on Jul 8, 2021 1:13:08 GMT -6
I wonder about the Rode NTR?
Chris
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Post by hadaja on Jul 8, 2021 4:06:36 GMT -6
Thanks Wiz, yeah i get Stewart from Xaudia in UK to service my older ribbon mics.
Stewart is quick well priced and has endless experience and knowledge coming out of his eye balls.
Red dirt - do you know if the transformer has been upgraded? Or is it stock. I think those ones benefited from an upgraded Cinemag cm xxxx cant remember the model off hand. I ight even have a spare one sitting in the cupboard. And the apex 205 i think has the long motor ribbon. I think they were originally 2.5 microns thick. If you go for a 1.8 micron i think you will get slightly more top end reach .
If its just a trannie and ribbon OPR should be fine he is even making his own trannies now.
Do you have his details?
Cheers
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2021 6:38:11 GMT -6
Guys, My Michael Joly modded Apex 205 has lost it's mojo (volume and tone). I'd love to have him look at it but I'm in Australia and he's out of the game these days anyway. If anyone can suggest an Australian repair solution that would br cool; failing that , what's a great ribbon option to record fiddle (warm without bow edginess and/or self noise) at a cool price. The Royer R 10 piqued my interest as does the AEA R 84 - any one excited by anything on Fiddle without breaking the bank? Cheers, Ross I've used an AEA N8 on viola a couple of times. Overall tone was good and bow noise was nicely reduced. I wouldn't use it all the time, but it was good for this particular player. |
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Post by sean on Jul 8, 2021 6:59:49 GMT -6
I don’t normally choose a ribbon for a fiddle only it’s especially bright but of the budget ribbons I’ve owned/used, a Shinybox or Cascade Vin-Jet with Lundhal transformers are great budget options. I also really like Beyer M160’s but they are very directional which may be problematic if you move a lot while playing…
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Post by svart on Jul 8, 2021 8:01:58 GMT -6
Bumblebee RM6 or RM7(powered).
Check out BGD's videos here:https://realgearonline.com/thread/8749/bumblebee-ribbon-mic-assembly-video
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Post by trakworxmastering on Jul 8, 2021 9:24:36 GMT -6
Cloud JRS-34P. Captures the wood in the mid tone beautifully and has a nice smooth 3D quality. Also my favorite electric guitar mic. I bet the JRS-34 active version is great too.
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Post by EmRR on Jul 8, 2021 9:35:07 GMT -6
Sounds like a local re-ribbon is the answer, unless the mic isn't worth the expense. I like the Samar, the M130, if it's a really shrieky player then the Shure 300.
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Post by rpc on Jul 8, 2021 9:41:40 GMT -6
SAMAR AL-95 - detailed but smooth. Quite reasonably priced in the US - don't know about AUS. I'll second the Bumblebee Pro recommendation as well.
Cordially,
Rudy Chalupa
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Post by Mister Chase on Jul 8, 2021 10:41:01 GMT -6
The r84 is really a killer mic. It has a sound to it. Big, soft but not overly so. Modern classic in my opinion. I got mine used mint at Alto on reverb. I need another. Also, the active version is probably killer if you want to avoid noise floor to a maximum.
Honestly, don't overlook cascade mics. I've gotten some great sounds with them, too.
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Post by anders on Jul 8, 2021 10:50:16 GMT -6
You might want to check out the LRM2B sound samples over at NoHypeAudio. www.nohypeaudio.com/nhaproducts.htmI don't have that one, but I have the more RCA-inspired LRM-V (which is gorgeous), and the stereo SRM-1 which is a very good room mic. |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Jul 8, 2021 10:50:48 GMT -6
Golden Age R1 Active is what I've been using on my fiddle lately. I like the results. This mic will work on anything though. Just a great mic at a great price. Reminds me of the sound of the U-67 I use to own. Not your typical ribbon mic for sure. I've owned most of the high end ribbons (except vintage) and I like this one best. Great on vocals as well. Hit the input hard on a 1073= money.
I find ribbons are by far the best for recording fiddle. Even the best players with the best fiddles can get scratchy on condensers. Ribbons tame that.
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Post by bluegrassdan on Jul 8, 2021 11:02:39 GMT -6
I’ve been sold on Artur Fisher’s Bumblebee Pro RM-6 ribbon mics for fiddle. Blumlein pair on fiddle is my go-to these days.
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Post by veggieryan on Jul 8, 2021 11:16:52 GMT -6
Samar AL-95 is the best ribbon for instruments I have ever used. The piston ribbon has a cleaner low end and clearer top end than traditional ribbons to my ear while still retaining that sweet natural tone of a ribbon. Great value. I love it on my strident voice as well. Perhaps my favorite mic right now.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Jul 8, 2021 13:12:53 GMT -6
I’ve been sold on Artur Fisher’s Bumblebee Pro RM-6 ribbon mics for fiddle. Blumlein pair on fiddle is my go-to these days. Dan, you just sold a few with this video. Excellent room and spacing. Great recording. Thats the recording sound we all look for. I'm still on the hunt for the sound we hear in the same room with a fiddle. Haven't came close yet on a recording. Let me know if you find it. |
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Post by bluegrassdan on Jul 8, 2021 17:34:46 GMT -6
I’ve been sold on Artur Fisher’s Bumblebee Pro RM-6 ribbon mics for fiddle. Blumlein pair on fiddle is my go-to these days. Dan, you just sold a few with this video. Excellent room and spacing. Great recording. Thats the recording sound we all look for. I'm still on the hunt for the sound we hear in the same room with a fiddle. Haven't came close yet on a recording. Let me know if you find it. Long time, no see, Cowboy! For whatever reason, it seems like miking a fiddle with Blumlein ribbons makes it sound like it's in a bigger room. Probably fewer bright reflections from a non-ideal room. I'll use that setup when recording in my small room at home. |
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Post by Ward on Jul 8, 2021 18:23:26 GMT -6
I have a bunch of ribbons. I like the Royer 121 better than any other on fiddle.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jul 8, 2021 21:09:18 GMT -6
4038 for me.
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Post by reddirt on Jul 9, 2021 0:20:42 GMT -6
Thank you for the great replies guys; I specifically want it for fiddle and as Dr Bill will attest, whatever Michael Joly did to the cheap Apex 205, he made a great mic . hearing DR Bill's piano recording with it forced me to purchase.
Cheers, Ross
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Post by Ward on Jul 9, 2021 6:47:12 GMT -6
Thank you for the great replies guys; I specifically want it for fiddle and as Dr Bill will attest, whatever Michael Joly did to the cheap Apex 205, he made a great mic . hearing DR Bill's piano recording with it forced me to purchase. Cheers, Ross Is Michael Joly still out of the mic mod game? If so, he gave up way too soon. |
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Post by chessparov on Jul 9, 2021 8:26:10 GMT -6
I totally understand Ward.
I think a big factor for him, was starting a new venture.
IMHO Chad @ Signal Arts, is the "heir apparent", to MJ's legacy.
(And-of course has been doing a fine job already)
Chris
P.S. But I'll still tease Klaus about
modding MXL's!
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Post by robschnapf on Jul 9, 2021 9:21:45 GMT -6
The Stager SR3 would be a great choice. Great sounding ribbon mic. Actually all of his ribbons are cool.
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Post by ericn on Jul 9, 2021 10:05:26 GMT -6
M160 with a NOS RCA ribbon never really disappoints.
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Post by EmRR on Jul 9, 2021 10:13:44 GMT -6
M160 with a NOS RCA ribbon never really disappoints. I haven't heard one so I should shut up, but there are so many things wrong with that mod, it purposefully cripples a perfectly fine mic to a degree, and will never remotely sound like an RCA, which has been the chief selling point. |
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