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Post by jcoutu1 on May 29, 2023 6:41:49 GMT -6
I LOVE my Earthworks drum mics.
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Post by anders on May 29, 2023 7:17:27 GMT -6
A general purpose dynamic you'll still be able to pick up fairly cheap on eBay, is the Beyerdynamic M201. Think of it as a better version of the SM57. Works for snare, toms, guitar amps, some acoustics, and even vocals if you use a good pop shield
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Post by phdamage on May 29, 2023 7:29:25 GMT -6
+1 on m201. They’re killer mics and can be used for so many things. M88 might be a contender as well but I prefer the m201 in most applications and they’re smaller and easier to place
For toms, I’m all about the Shure beta 181s these days for batter. I might still slightly prefer the Oktava MK012s but those are hard to come by since they’re made in Russia. For reso, you can’t beat an SE X1D either They are discontinued but can often be found dirt cheap when they come up. They’re great on tom reso, kick out, bass cab.
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Post by tackhouse on May 29, 2023 10:12:28 GMT -6
For toms consider clip on mics (I use the ATM350d), no need for a stand saves cash.
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Post by antipodesjosh on May 29, 2023 10:48:12 GMT -6
I‘ve heard it said that the m201 is what the SM57 would be if it were a mic. 🤣
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Post by ab101 on May 29, 2023 11:00:43 GMT -6
I‘ve heard it said that the m201 is what the SM57 would be if it were a mic. 🤣 In fairness, in the old days of tape, the SM57 was able to do some great things with drums. And it still can be good on some things, but there are so many better options now. And for some effects, the SM57 was interesting. I recall Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull leader) using it for live vocals as it brought out a vocal effect he apparently wanted. And having said all that, I am not sure the SM57 today is the SM57 of decades ago. I have not kept up on that aspect. |
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Post by chessparov on May 29, 2023 12:06:13 GMT -6
IMHO not the same as "USA" 57/58/545? Yes! I had all those in the Vintage versions/non-Current incarnations. But... 57/58's can be sent off to Warren at Zen Pro, for the Archut Transformer upgrade. To get smoother/more SM7-ish. Since I rely on my 58 to sound less Choirboy-ish though, will probably leave mine alone. To further constructively distort, a Soyuz Launcher is the ticket!  No news to most here, but SOME people do sound great on them Shure's. Including Ian in his heyday. Before his voice was permanently damaged Touring in the 80's. A shame as his 70's vocals both live/studio, serve as a vocal model for me. Amazing Baritone! (Ian that is  ) Chris P.S. Also IMHO the Focusrite ISA Pre's, and even their "Air Button" thang, help clean up the current 57/58's tone. |
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Post by ab101 on May 29, 2023 12:17:50 GMT -6
IMHO not the same as "USA" 57/58/545? Yes! I had all those in the Vintage versions/non-Current incarnations. But... 57/58's can be sent off to Warren at Zen Pro, for the Archut Transformer upgrade. To get smoother/more SM7-ish. Since I rely on my 58 to sound less Choirboy-ish though, will probably leave mine alone. To further constructively distort, a Soyuz Launcher is the ticket! No news to most here, but SOME people do sound great on them Shure's. Including Ian in his heyday. Before his voice was permanently damaged Touring in the 80's. A shame as his 70's vocals both live/studio, serve as a vocal model for me. Amazing Baritone! (Ian that is ) Chris P.S. Also IMHO the Focusrite ISA Pre's, and even their "Air Button" thang, help clean up the current 57/58's tone. Super post my friend! |
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Post by drsax on May 29, 2023 12:22:35 GMT -6
A pair of Lewitt 540s subzero mics and a Beyer dynamic m201 would cover a LOT of territory
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Post by drbill on May 29, 2023 13:07:59 GMT -6
57's require a good mic pre to sound good for most things - preferably a mic pre with a lot of iron in the path. Compared to a standard chip based interface mic pre - that makes a world of difference.
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Post by wiz on May 29, 2023 15:47:04 GMT -6
57's require a good mic pre to sound good for most things - preferably a mic pre with a lot of iron in the path. Compared to a standard chip based interface mic pre - that makes a world of difference. I just used my 57 a couple of days ago on a dobro through a v72 and thought exactly this…… cheers Wiz |
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Post by gouge on May 29, 2023 16:13:26 GMT -6
I really like the 57 on acoustic guitar. 57 and neveish preamps are like cheese and tomato. Or peanut butter and honey... vegemite and avocado
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Post by guitfiddler on May 29, 2023 18:47:46 GMT -6
I like my 57’s through my original ISA 110’s! Really liking the Audix i5 lately again
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Post by chessparov on May 29, 2023 19:02:36 GMT -6
Through my original 3rd Gen Scarlett/Air Mode on. Another informal one take... Chris |
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Post by mcirish on May 29, 2023 19:18:01 GMT -6
Everyone has a preference for how you should spend your money. You had mentioned the ATM230 mics. I can vouch for those. They live on my toms. They were a big upgrade from the MD421s that I used to use.
I've heard a lot of good thoughts about the 201. But, everytime I hear it on snare, I think it needs way more 7k. I prefer an i5 for that. But everyone hears differently and we all work in different places with different gear. What I like might not be a good choice for someone else.
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Post by antipodesjosh on May 29, 2023 20:40:15 GMT -6
Everyone has a preference for how you should spend your money. You had mentioned the ATM230 mics. I can vouch for those. They live on my toms. They were a big upgrade from the MD421s that I used to use. I've heard a lot of good thoughts about the 201. But, everytime I hear it on snare, I think it needs way more 7k. I prefer an i5 for that. But everyone hears differently and we all work in different places with different gear. What I like might not be a good choice for someone else. Great to know the ATM230s are working for you! I think I’ll lock those in, they’ve been top of my list for toms for a while, and very reasonably priced. The m201 is out of stock everywhere in NZ, so I’m not in danger of picking one up just yet 😅 |
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Post by Ward on May 30, 2023 11:09:40 GMT -6
I really like the 57 on acoustic guitar. 57 and neveish preamps are like cheese and tomato. Or peanut butter and honey... vegemite and avocado Ice cream and gravy |
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Post by copperx on May 30, 2023 17:11:13 GMT -6
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Post by wiz on May 30, 2023 17:54:33 GMT -6
I used a 201 on snare for years... its also good on acoustic guitars and will work on vocals...great mic
cheers
wiz
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Post by plinker on May 30, 2023 22:42:04 GMT -6
A pair of Lewitt 540s subzero mics and a Beyer dynamic m201 would cover a LOT of territory The subzeros are refined. Excellent value. |
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Post by Omicron9 on May 31, 2023 10:45:40 GMT -6
The mics I would get are spend it on room treatment. *engineering forum joke In that same spirit of engineering forum joke: The mics (or whatever gear is currently in question) don't matter. Only the performance matters. <eye roll added by me> |
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Post by chessparov on May 31, 2023 11:13:34 GMT -6
How many mics do we REALLY need? Just one more. Chrus |
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Post by Ward on May 31, 2023 16:24:27 GMT -6
How many mics do we REALLY need? Just one more. Chrus I know 125 isn't enough. |
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Post by mics on May 31, 2023 19:02:17 GMT -6
How many mics do we REALLY need? Just one more. Chrus I know 125 isn't enough. I agree!!! I’ve got thousands of the little suckers!! |
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Post by chessparov on Jun 14, 2023 21:50:04 GMT -6
The mics I would get are spend it on room treatment. *engineering forum joke Main reason why I left gear space Main reason I left GarageBand. Chris |
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