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Post by locrain on Jun 26, 2021 12:12:19 GMT -6
Something I’m really bad at is staying positive toward myself. This, self-production, balance, and I don't reference when I mix. So just some basic fundamentals that screw up all my mixes...
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Post by ericn on Jun 30, 2021 10:17:35 GMT -6
OKay don’t laugh but take a look at my right ear in my avatar picture. Since 1998 getting the soundstage I want! Funny enough I can hear higher with it no internal damage but the missing tissue makes a symmetrical image sound asymmetrical! Yes I have talked to the DR’s, most say yeah we can fix that but the ones I trust and was in the room when 3 months out of the hospital I complained that the x over freq of 250Hz on a pair of prototype Martin Logan’s was to high ( yeah I picked as 250 in 30 secs). Said “yeah we can do it but you know ears are funny. Enough said.
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Post by plinker on Jun 30, 2021 11:06:41 GMT -6
Acid
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jun 30, 2021 14:51:25 GMT -6
OKay don’t laugh but take a look at my right ear in my avatar picture. Since 1998 getting the soundstage I want! Funny enough I can hear higher with it no internal damage but the missing tissue makes a symmetrical image sound asymmetrical! Yes I have talked to the DR’s, most say yeah we can fix that but the ones I trust and was in the room when 3 months out of the hospital I complained that the x over freq of 250Hz on a pair of prototype Martin Logan’s was to high ( yeah I picked as 250 in 30 secs). Said “yeah we can do it but you know ears are funny. Enough said. If you’ve been working with it for 23 years, why change now? A little hearing loss never stopped Brian Wilson!
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Post by plinker on Jun 30, 2021 15:43:21 GMT -6
OKay don’t laugh but take a look at my right ear in my avatar picture. Since 1998 getting the soundstage I want! Funny enough I can hear higher with it no internal damage but the missing tissue makes a symmetrical image sound asymmetrical! Yes I have talked to the DR’s, most say yeah we can fix that but the ones I trust and was in the room when 3 months out of the hospital I complained that the x over freq of 250Hz on a pair of prototype Martin Logan’s was to high ( yeah I picked as 250 in 30 secs). Said “yeah we can do it but you know ears are funny. Enough said. If you’ve been working with it for 23 years, why change now? A little hearing loss never stopped Brian Wilson! Brian lost more from his head than just his hearing!
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jun 30, 2021 18:01:23 GMT -6
If you’ve been working with it for 23 years, why change now? A little hearing loss never stopped Brian Wilson! Brian lost more from his head than just his hearing! Fair point.
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Post by RealNoob on Jun 30, 2021 22:13:31 GMT -6
Getting harmonics right on kick for translation to smaller systems. Someone please help!
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Post by bluegrassdan on Jun 30, 2021 22:33:45 GMT -6
The computer and I/O interface stuff can hang me up quick.
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Post by drumsound on Jul 1, 2021 0:01:50 GMT -6
For me, I think it's hearing past what I send to clients. I always want the client to listen to Mix 1 and just say "great do the next one."
they almost never do
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Post by Tbone81 on Jul 1, 2021 11:20:00 GMT -6
Getting harmonics right on kick for translation to smaller systems. Someone please help! Ive had that same problem, what works for me is listening on a full range system, for me Adam a7’s with subwoofer. I dial in my low end (bass and kick), and then switch to small monitors that have no bass. I’m using NHT SuperOne’s. Then I tweak the rest of my mix. If the kick cuts through on those I know I’m good.
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Post by Guitar on Jul 4, 2021 5:36:25 GMT -6
Editing, self-editing. Terrible at it because I don't care.
I'm learning how to comp, edit drums, etc. I have realized I love a sound something like Beefheart or the White Stripes, some original blues guitar and voice recordings, shambolic, wild, all over the place. It's not that I can't play it's just that I like how that sounds. I think in reality I have a pretty good ear for time, etc, I just ignore more than someone else would.
The problem is the "general population" ie, everybody else, doesn't hear my music this way so I have to find some middle way between the two. Currently working with this idea. The "work in progress" thread was a step in the right direction, I think.
My next full release will be re-recorded or at least heavily worked on with this in mind, before I release it. If I was going to stick with my old method, it would have been out by now. But I want it to be more popular, by putting in "the work" of making things line up and etc.
This will be my "covid record" and there's a second one after that, fully written as well, some of my best songs to date on the second one. Hard to say when the real effort will start but at least I know what needs to be done and roughly how to accomplish it.
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Post by robschnapf on Jul 9, 2021 9:26:40 GMT -6
I can’t make Lasagna when I’m tracking
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Post by RealNoob on Jul 10, 2021 18:25:57 GMT -6
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Post by jamiesego on Jul 10, 2021 21:40:00 GMT -6
Half the time I feel like I’m bad at most things audio related. I’m not very good at taking mediocre artists and pulling better performances out of them.
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Post by mrholmes on Jul 12, 2021 5:05:43 GMT -6
Self production. I find it extremely impossible to split my brain in two halves.
TRUE.... Depends on the song, but most often I strictly do one part after the next. Writing / Arranging / Mixing.
We all can write songs, but his philosophy is a bit ZEN alike and really inspired me to overthink my beliefs. I think many of us are stuck in the "it must be perfect" mindset and this kills everything.
How many world hits writes have no clue about what they do. I know two of em, and they both think their non-educated music minds are an important part of the process.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jul 12, 2021 6:11:37 GMT -6
Self production. I find it extremely impossible to split my brain in two halves.
TRUE.... Depends on the song, but most often I strictly do one part after the next. Writing / Arranging / Mixing.
We all can write songs, but his philosophy is a bit ZEN alike and really inspired me to overthink my beliefs. I think many of us are stuck in the "it must be perfect" mindset and this kills everything.
How many world hits writes have no clue about what they do. I know two of em, and they both think their non-educated music minds are an important part of the process.
Great book.
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Post by Ward on Jul 12, 2021 7:20:45 GMT -6
Honestly, these days I'm never happy with the amount of high end I have on drums in general, and overheads in particular. I never add any. Always subtracting. It still hurts my ears sometimes.
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Post by mrholmes on Jul 12, 2021 7:50:59 GMT -6
Honestly, these days I'm never happy with the amount of high end I have on drums in general, and overheads in particular. I never add any. Always subtracting. It still hurts my ears sometimes.
My guesswork, someone added highs. The same is true for sample libraries, something sounds strange about the hits on metal.
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Post by Guitar on Jul 12, 2021 8:19:32 GMT -6
Honestly, these days I'm never happy with the amount of high end I have on drums in general, and overheads in particular. I never add any. Always subtracting. It still hurts my ears sometimes. I'm starting to be a broken record, but I'll say it again with more detail. Try the TDR Molot GE and/or the PSP Oldtimer ME either/or or in series, on too-bright drums or drum samples. Both will darken them right up, add weight in the lows and mids. I use them on drum bus but I assume they would apply on overheads as well, as long as a little compresson on your overheads is desired. Or you could run them with no GR and just use the saturation that each have. If you're not allergic to good plugins, haha! These two don't seem to get mentioned as much as I think they should/could.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2021 11:20:31 GMT -6
Molot GE is godlike. You just have to learn what the knobs do. The Gentleman’s Edition replaced the original as my favorite digital compressor ever. I just wish they kept a Soviet radio gui. Guys were more impressed by that than the casework on most newer rackmount hardware.
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Post by jmoose on Jul 12, 2021 13:51:13 GMT -6
Self production. I find it extremely impossible to split my brain in two halves.
TRUE.... Depends on the song, but most often I strictly do one part after the next. Writing / Arranging / Mixing.
We all can write songs, but his philosophy is a bit ZEN alike and really inspired me to overthink my beliefs. I think many of us are stuck in the "it must be perfect" mindset and this kills everything.
How many world hits writes have no clue about what they do. I know two of em, and they both think their non-educated music minds are an important part of the process.
I'm not talking about songwriting. That's a different process. So is pre-production. What I'm referring to is keeping the session moving and working. Reading a book won't help when I just cut five takes with the band and failed to notice that the snare drum didn't record because I fat fingered it... or the guitar futzed out halfway through take 1 because of a funky patch cable or whatever. Forgetting to save as, session backups all that stuff. Someone asking to hear the second half of the 3rd take again & trying to locate it on the timeline... Interferes with my musical brain. I'd rather go to a studio, let someone else worry about all that stuff and just play my instrument.
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Post by gwlee7 on Jul 12, 2021 16:27:56 GMT -6
Molot GE is godlike. You just have to learn what the knobs do. The Gentleman’s Edition replaced the original as my favorite digital compressor ever. I just wish they kept a Soviet radio gui. Guys were more impressed by that than the casework on most newer rackmount hardware. I am so glad I followed up on your recommendations re all the TDR stuff. It’s pretty hard to mess up using it even for someone like me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2021 17:37:12 GMT -6
Molot GE is godlike. You just have to learn what the knobs do. The Gentleman’s Edition replaced the original as my favorite digital compressor ever. I just wish they kept a Soviet radio gui. Guys were more impressed by that than the casework on most newer rackmount hardware. I am so glad I followed up on your recommendations re all the TDR stuff. It’s pretty hard to mess up using it even for someone like me. Just read the manual and keep it on insane for cranking input, saturation, and under 10ms attack rate. slick eq Ge is my fave though. Just the auto volume match makes it worth it to me.
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Post by ericn on Jul 12, 2021 20:25:04 GMT -6
Self production. I find it extremely impossible to split my brain in two halves. Find I'm either concentrating on music... playing my instrument and musical communication... or the nuts and bolts of running a session. Can't figure out how to do both without one suffering greatly. Have had that conversation with many bandmates.... but Moose you make records why can't you record this? I'd much rather go to a studio & let someone else worry about levels & making sure tape is actually rolling... mics crapping out in the middle of a take. Pre covid my band planned on releasing an EP. Had a shop picked to cut basics... I'd handle overdubs and depending on the amount of arguments we had, at least attempt to mix but probably send it out. Production by traffic control vs actual knob turning? That I can do!! With the regular old producer engineer hat on not much scares me anymore. Though I'll say that the hardest lesson to learn was that we're always mixing. Everything is mixing. Hanging microphones, picking snare drums acoustic guitars or distortion pedals? That's where mixing starts. J the honestly here is amazing. I as a non musician don’t know how you guys can even try to self produce! I know on projects where I have earned a song writing credit or even contributed enough ohms and ahhhs to even get a background vocals credit I find myself blinded by ego.
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Post by theshea on Jul 13, 2021 7:14:42 GMT -6
I am so glad I followed up on your recommendations re all the TDR stuff. It’s pretty hard to mess up using it even for someone like me. Just read the manual and keep it on insane for cranking input, saturation, and under 10ms attack rate. slick eq Ge is my fave though. Just the auto volume match makes it worth it to me. i only have the free molot version. do i miss a lot vs the GE?
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