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Post by phdamage on May 29, 2021 21:01:22 GMT -6
So, maybe I need to read the instructions again but this wasn’t saving me much time after messing with it for an hour.
Is there really no way to just click on the hits?
This was on busy, loud and fast playing.
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Post by Guitar on May 30, 2021 6:14:06 GMT -6
Has anyone A/B'd with FabFilter Pro-G? I'm wondering what's the "best gate." In terms of sound, and CPU hit. I heard an endorsement from Eric Valentine on Pro-G that got my attention. Says he doesn't edit toms any more. I've just been using SSL channel gates, sure something else could be better.
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Post by mcirish on May 30, 2021 7:38:13 GMT -6
For just a plain single channel gate, I do like DMG TrackGate. Simple, has a lookahead function, you can set a range as well as a ratio. Most importantly, it usually does a very good job. For drums, I did like Oxford Drum Gate, but the CPU hit is too much to put on 6-8 drum mics. I like Cymbal Killer quite a bit too for drums but it has bugs. The developer has been trying to sort it out but no idea when it will function correctly.
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Post by svart on May 30, 2021 10:11:29 GMT -6
The install left something to be desired. First time was fine but I got an error when I pulled the plug in and then nothing. It wouldn't show back up in the lists no matter how I scanned for plugs. I tried moving the file to another folder and still wouldn't scan. I reinstalled and it wouldn't scan. I finally uninstalled and reinstalled to another directory and it'll see the 32 but vst but not the 64 bit one.
At least it works great.
As others have said, it's a bear in resources though. 5000+ dpc. Ouch. Only 0.3% CPU though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2021 16:05:19 GMT -6
So, maybe I need to read the instructions again but this wasn’t saving me much time after messing with it for an hour. Is there really no way to just click on the hits? This was on busy, loud and fast playing. I just tested this out on some blast beasts. It can't take the cymbals off the snare and dampens the beats. This is for slower, steady playing. Same with drum leveler. Trying to set it to catch the ghost notes causes all hell to break loose. That being said, less of a sucking sound than ReaGate, which is free and still works. PSP Infinistrip gate weakened the hits yet kept the snare wires the most intact.
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Post by drumrec on Jun 8, 2021 18:20:07 GMT -6
Have that plugin and it's great. But the funny thing is that I bought Steven Slate Trigger just to use as a Gate functions. There is no one (my opinion) that works as smoothly and well as trigger, love it!
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Post by allbuttonmode on Jun 9, 2021 5:32:44 GMT -6
I can highly recommend using Soyuz 013s as tom mics, to avoid ugly cymbal bleed. I stopped using 421s for the exact same reason as the OP. For me, they've more or less made gating toms unnecessary.
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Post by mcirish on Nov 2, 2021 13:28:12 GMT -6
For just a plain single channel gate, I do like DMG TrackGate. Simple, has a lookahead function, you can set a range as well as a ratio. Most importantly, it usually does a very good job. For drums, I did like Oxford Drum Gate, but the CPU hit is too much to put on 6-8 drum mics. I like Cymbal Killer quite a bit too for drums but it has bugs. The developer has been trying to sort it out but no idea when it will function correctly. Here I am.. quoting myself. Ha! Low Wave did send me a fixed Cymbal Killer drum gate plugin. I used it on the last few projects and it works well. Worth checking out for sure. Cymbal Killer
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Post by EmRR on Nov 2, 2021 14:24:57 GMT -6
Oktava MK-102's have proven good for toms here, designed for good off axis response.
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Post by javamad on Nov 4, 2021 4:14:22 GMT -6
I have been demoing the Oxford Drum Gate … its very good and is on sale now .. I will be picking it up.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2022 23:03:12 GMT -6
This is the best gate I've ever used. I finally am warming up to it. It's the best Sonnox plug. Indispensable now.
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Post by sean on Aug 15, 2022 6:58:05 GMT -6
This is the best gate I've ever used. I finally am warming up to it. It's the best Sonnox plug. Indispensable now. Was there a setting/tweak that made it all come together for you? Have you compared the Leveler section to say Sound Radix Drum Leveler?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 14:33:59 GMT -6
This is the best gate I've ever used. I finally am warming up to it. It's the best Sonnox plug. Indispensable now. Was there a setting/tweak that made it all come together for you? Have you compared the Leveler section to say Sound Radix Drum Leveler? I haven’t had to deal with players that bad who weren’t in something that couldn’t be just sample replaced so I’ve never used it yet. drum leveler worked best when I demoed it on steady beats or for guys who don’t have any groove and you can add it in better than with parallel compression or pumping. You really have to eq the side chain to come close to what drum gate can do at isolating drums. I’ll buy it eventually when I need auto-align for multi miced sources i can’t deal with manually quickly because it comes in a bundle. to get drum gate working well, select what you’re gating, tune the loudest transient to the drum to capture the spectral profile, then lower the threshold to dig in to catch all the ghost notes. It will still sound like shit like a standard gate but not clicky and awful. So go over to the decay tab, turn down the softness whatever meter to like 10% so the ghost notes don’t sound like crap, and then turn down the damping to turn it into a drastic expander rather than a hard gate. It sounds very natural but you still lose a some of the body. So just use some shelves, tubes/iron, or slightly compress 1-2 db with something legit good after. Sounds really good. This kills Expurgate, Pro-G, and the Oxford Dynamics gate which sucks except as an literal noise gate to strip “silence” and cut off tape noise.
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Post by javamad on Aug 16, 2022 0:29:59 GMT -6
I got it during that November sale and it has replaced Pro-G for drums for me.
I also use the leveler instead of SoundRadix Drum Leveler cos the Radix plugin does not play nice with LUNA (cpu on fire :-) )
I do a lot of recordings with my studio kit and have a preset for each drum in the standard tuning in my template … such a time saver.
There was a cpu usage comment in the thread but I have not noticed anything …
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