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Post by jcoutu1 on Apr 26, 2014 22:56:23 GMT -6
All the sta talk in the other thread is giving me a boner for the sta. Maybe I'll sell my doublewide and grab a sta and wa76. Anything besides the76/la2a or sta combo killing it?
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Post by scumbum on Apr 27, 2014 10:03:34 GMT -6
I always use the Bones Howe setting with an 1176 plugin .
Attack 6 Release 7 Ratio 12:1 -15 dbs of compression .
Sometimes I put the attack at 9 o'clock . Its a set it and forget it setting .
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Post by kevinnyc on Apr 27, 2014 12:56:30 GMT -6
Current chain is an 87 into an ISA215 and/or vp28 into an elop, sometimes one channel into another...
I have a Sound Skulptor 5176 on the way which I am looking forward to inserting into that chain...
But I loves me some elop.....took me a minute to appreciate what a time saver it is further down the line but I'll never part with that bad boy.
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Post by crash on May 1, 2014 13:22:26 GMT -6
If you can find one of these, they are worth it. Finnicky, but WOW on a vocal.
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Post by wiz on May 1, 2014 15:23:03 GMT -6
If you can find one of these, they are worth it. Finnicky, but WOW on a vocal. If you have time, if you could run the vocal of mine from the STA thread through it it would be great! cheers Wiz
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Post by cowboycoalminer on May 1, 2014 17:29:43 GMT -6
I think a lot of guys around Nashville will have three or four tracks of the vocal...One uncompressed, one 1176, one opto, etc...then blend to taste...I'm too lazy I used to send to several different auxes and eq and compress/blend. Seems one about has to if mixing ITB to get a good result. But when I picked up the Sta, I quit doing all that. Really not needed. I get the same result now by simply flipping a switch. So I guess I'm lazy now too, ha.
But I still run a couple of comps in series and most times, use a limiter on the end of the strip and barely tap it to add a touch more control. Try that JK. L1 usually for me. Guarantee you'll like it and it's easy as can be.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on May 1, 2014 17:32:12 GMT -6
All the sta talk in the other thread is giving me a boner for the sta. Maybe I'll sell my doublewide and grab a sta and wa76. Anything besides the76/la2a or sta combo killing it? CL1b always kills it, J. Probably the number 1 used vocal comp in Nashville. I saw that Randy was using one from an earlier post.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 1, 2014 19:52:06 GMT -6
I think a lot of guys around Nashville will have three or four tracks of the vocal...One uncompressed, one 1176, one opto, etc...then blend to taste...I'm too lazy I used to send to several different auxes and eq and compress/blend. Seems one about has to if mixing ITB to get a good result. But when I picked up the Sta, I quit doing all that. Really not needed. I get the same result now by simply flipping a switch. So I guess I'm lazy now too, ha.
But I still run a couple of comps in series and most times, use a limiter on the end of the strip and barely tap it to add a touch more control. Try that JK. L1 usually for me. Guarantee you'll like it and it's easy as can be. Interesting!
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Post by svart on May 1, 2014 21:37:42 GMT -6
I think a lot of guys around Nashville will have three or four tracks of the vocal...One uncompressed, one 1176, one opto, etc...then blend to taste...I'm too lazy What other stuff do they do to it? I've been experimenting with something similar but I don't have any tricks to thicken up a female voice yet.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 1, 2014 21:43:25 GMT -6
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Post by jeromemason on May 1, 2014 22:38:29 GMT -6
I think a lot of guys around Nashville will have three or four tracks of the vocal...One uncompressed, one 1176, one opto, etc...then blend to taste...I'm too lazy What other stuff do they do to it? I've been experimenting with something similar but I don't have any tricks to thicken up a female voice yet. You could roll everything thing off above 500-600hz, everything below 50hz on another track in addition to the other two processed tracks. Then compress the LP/HP track so that it's got more of a pumping to it rather than a squash and blend it in. That worked for me on a few occasions.
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Post by svart on May 2, 2014 6:50:32 GMT -6
What other stuff do they do to it? I've been experimenting with something similar but I don't have any tricks to thicken up a female voice yet. You could roll everything thing off above 500-600hz, everything below 50hz on another track in addition to the other two processed tracks. Then compress the LP/HP track so that it's got more of a pumping to it rather than a squash and blend it in. That worked for me on a few occasions. Heh. I do stuff like that on instruments.. I have no idea why it didn't occur to me to try that with vocals. Thanks! I'll try it tonight. I usually get great sounding vocals with the megacompression and doubling/tripling/etc trick, and I think the current project I'm recording sounds great and perfect, but for some reason the female vocalist is very much unhappy with the amount of "heft" in her voice. The rest of the band and I all agree it sounds fine and it sounds exactly like her (but polished a bit) yet she continuously resists. If I can add some weight to it without it becoming boomy, I think I can avoid the retracking this vocalist thinks she needs.
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Post by nico on May 5, 2014 3:50:09 GMT -6
Chandler Zener or Germanium Compressor here : do not feel the need of anything else right now for lead vocal compression. Although a Sta or an LA2A or a 176 or....damned monday morning gear lust... Ok about the Zener : versatile beast for vocals : can do very fast fairchild style in limit mode, can do slower gooey heaven in mode comp 1 or comp 2( faster release ). With comp1/2 often find myself compressing leadvocals between 5-15 dB compression : used on singer songwriter stuff, poprock, jazz. The sidechain hpf allows for deep compression without pumping or audible compression clampdown. Zener also very nice with smaller range of compression/peaklimiting. Also has THD mode to use saturation instead of compression : great in chain with another compressor. Germanium comp: the compression curves alone are worth it : in Clean setting with R soft/Germ Soft mode + hpf can do 1176/distressor insane amount of invisible compression ( used on singer/songwriter vocals that had extreme dynamic range, with up to 20dB compression, when listening singer thought we did manual rides while recording, couldn't hear compression ) Both these compressors are workhorses and extremely versatile, they require a bit more time to set up than LA2A or 1176, but sound wise oh me oh my! regards, Nico
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Post by Ward on May 5, 2014 6:59:58 GMT -6
Typically, I'm LDC-> Preamp I choose for vocal(Neve 1073, Grace M101 or Focusrite 428 Mark1) then . . .
CL1b into Bluestripe 1176. And the results are pure magic. I don't use very much compression on either though. I like going into an OPTO first, and sometimes use an LA2a instead of the CL1b. I like to smooth and then let the 1176 crush the big peaks and the results do not sound overcompressed nor do they interfere with performance.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on May 5, 2014 8:49:53 GMT -6
Typically, I'm LDC-> Preamp I choose for vocal(Neve 1073, Grace M101 or Focusrite 428 Mark1) then . . . CL1b into Bluestripe 1176. And the results are pure magic. I don't use very much compression on either though. I like going into an OPTO first, and sometimes use an LA2a instead of the CL1b. I like to smooth and then let the 1176 crush the big peaks and the results do not sound overcompressed nor do they interfere with performance. Hey Ward Never did hear back but I'm assuming from this post the Bliestrip is the good stuff? I remember you ordered one from oversees.
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Post by littlesicily on May 5, 2014 13:17:01 GMT -6
Chandler Zener or Germanium Compressor here : do not feel the need of anything else right now for lead vocal compression. Although a Sta or an LA2A or a 176 or....damned monday morning gear lust... Ok about the Zener : versatile beast for vocals : can do very fast fairchild style in limit mode, can do slower gooey heaven in mode comp 1 or comp 2( faster release ). With comp1/2 often find myself compressing leadvocals between 5-15 dB compression : used on singer songwriter stuff, poprock, jazz. The sidechain hpf allows for deep compression without pumping or audible compression clampdown. Zener also very nice with smaller range of compression/peaklimiting. Also has THD mode to use saturation instead of compression : great in chain with another compressor. Germanium comp: the compression curves alone are worth it : in Clean setting with R soft/Germ Soft mode + hpf can do 1176/distressor insane amount of invisible compression ( used on singer/songwriter vocals that had extreme dynamic range, with up to 20dB compression, when listening singer thought we did manual rides while recording, couldn't hear compression ) Both these compressors are workhorses and extremely versatile, they require a bit more time to set up than LA2A or 1176, but sound wise oh me oh my! regards, Nico I thought I was over comp lust until you reminded me of the Zener. Crap.
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Post by nico on May 5, 2014 17:21:35 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on May 5, 2014 17:47:39 GMT -6
Chickenhead knobs...I can barely stand it...
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