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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 13, 2021 0:32:10 GMT -6
It’s not that it doesn’t speak to me - it sounds fantastic. I find myself gravitating to the j45 because it’s just easier to play. But the Martin is the nicer guitar. The authentics are highly sought after - especially the pre vts ones - so I’d probably be a dumb Ass to sell. Just need to start playing it more.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 13, 2021 0:34:48 GMT -6
I think I just have to occasionally talk myself out of it.
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Post by ab101 on Apr 13, 2021 0:40:04 GMT -6
Feel free to ignore all this. But I was thinking along these lines. DrBill is very wise and may be correct. But it just so happens that I was speaking to a friend in the last week who was in a situation with a guitar that he could no longer afford due to a change in economic circumstances. And I am no expert or wonderful guitar player by any means. But there are great $2000 guitars out there. I love my breedlove myrtlewood, even though I have a Collings OM1a that cost twice as much. I also played an old breedlove just before Covid at an acoustic shop, and I was amazed how rich it was! And it was under $2000. And in regard to the recent conversation with a guitarist friend of mine who plays an acoustic every day, he just bought a Zager and loves it. He sold his expensive Martin. No sense in suffering financially. And as you said, you find yourself reaching for a different guitar. You expensive Martin deserves to be a first reach for someone else! if the new strings is changing this, then drag an anchor for a bit and see if you feel the same way.
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Post by rowmat on Apr 13, 2021 0:49:18 GMT -6
My Lowden I paid $1300 AUD for about 35 years ago is probably worth between $5k to $8k today and is likely to keep appreciating although in reality it’s probably just matching inflation. Apart from that if I sold it I would unlikely find anything else that would match it specifically for acoustic finger style playing even at those prices and if I waited a few years and then decided I wanted something equivalent I think I would be priced out of the market by then. I did consider selling it about five years ago but after pulling it out of storage and playing it I couldn’t let it go. I should cull some of my acoustics but I like each of them too much for their particular characteristics. Deciding whether or not to part with instruments is often a dilemma ain’t it!? So don’t ask me! 😕
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 13, 2021 4:29:24 GMT -6
If the guitar feels and sounds special to you, I think you will regret selling it: money is only money.
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Post by gwlee7 on Apr 13, 2021 5:15:13 GMT -6
It’s not that it doesn’t speak to me - it sounds fantastic. I find myself gravitating to the j45 because it’s just easier to play. But the Martin is the nicer guitar. The authentics are highly sought after - especially the pre vts ones - so I’d probably be a dumb Ass to sell. Just need to start playing it more. “Nicer” isn’t always “better”. But new strings and playing it some will probably remind you of why you got it to begin with. It’s complicated.
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Post by levon on Apr 13, 2021 5:19:31 GMT -6
If you're desperate enough to ask a bunch of addicts here, I'd say keep it. I've sold a bunch of gear that I later came to regret. I even bought back some gear for more than I sold it for. I learned my lesson.
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Post by Ward on Apr 13, 2021 7:19:44 GMT -6
There are a few things in life worth holding onto: A V-Comp/Sta-Level A Helios Type 69 preamp A Martin D28 that has that sound or playability that inspires That great microphone like a 47, 48, 67, 251 or 87 that just inspires you
And a good woman, great car, and a great bourbon
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 13, 2021 7:24:14 GMT -6
Or scotch: ya’ll get my point !
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Post by drbill on Apr 13, 2021 10:16:29 GMT -6
I think I just have to occasionally talk myself out of it. The other thing is,,,,,we change over time. Our taste, the type of music we're working on, the room we are in, who is playing. All these things change over time, and what seemed like a good decision at the time (I'm not playing it much, might as well sell it) will come back to haunt in your next (or second or third) iteration of change. A special instrument is always a special instrument. Not as easy to successfully swap out as a.....say........StaLevel.
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Post by Omicron9 on Apr 13, 2021 10:26:51 GMT -6
Understood, Johnkenn. I get weird about instruments that I no longer play. I start to feel guilty, like I'm preventing them from fulfilling their destiny of being played. IMO, instruments were born to be played, not collected. I've sold some amazing instruments with tones that were jaw-dropping because I just no longer used them. I don't regret selling any of them. I have fond memories of them, and am glad I had the experience, but I don't miss them. If I'm not using an instrument, it's time to find it a new home. But that's just me.
The rare exception is an original Steinberger GL-2, one of the batch of the first 30 ever made. I bought it when it was new; great instrument. It was my main guitar for years. However, I've not played it in many years and likely never will again, but it has a ton of personal history and sentimental value attached. I toy with the idea of selling it, but it feels like I'd be selling off some of my history and memories.
-09
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Post by ab101 on Apr 13, 2021 10:52:16 GMT -6
I think I just have to occasionally talk myself out of it. The other thing is,,,,,we change over time. Our taste, the type of music we're working on, the room we are in, who is playing. All these things change over time, and what seemed like a good decision at the time (I'm not playing it much, might as well sell it) will come back to haunt in your next (or second or third) iteration of change. A special instrument is always a special instrument. Not as easy to successfully swap out as a.....say........StaLevel. I must say that I agree with this. I was thinking about this some more this morning. The general pro audio market includes products that can be bought and sold. Maybe some mistakes are made, but a replacement can usually be found. But a well-made acoustic guitar is a unique item. Sometimes one guitar is better than an identical model. Sometimes in the same run, one just comes out different, because there is something very special about the particular wood. And if a guitar is older, how that wood has changed, may be better than trying to get a new one or trying to find an older one with the same magic. I had a Collings Mandolin MT - simple model from about the year 2001. It had a special sound. I sold it thinking I would just get another MT. I never found another MT that sounded like that one. Even though Collings is known for a lot of consistency, everyone once in a while a particular instrument just stands out.
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Post by Guitar on Apr 13, 2021 11:17:39 GMT -6
I have a D-28 Standard, it's the best guitar I've ever owned, but there's nothing special about it. It's comfortable, you can play anything on it, but it's just a D-28 and it sounds really good. Those are the sort of guitars that speak to me. I don't really need some passion about it at this age/stage, just something that works and gets results. If your guitar is even better than that, I can't imagine how good it must be to play on and listen to.
The price of that instrument is the thing that would really tempt me to disinvest. I have a hard time holding onto expensive gear when there's something else that works, like another good acoustic guitar in your...case.
So I have no advice one way or the other, just someone that appreciates a good D28 when it's needed. Sell it if you don't need it, keep it if you do, like some others have said. If you're having fun with it and responding to it maybe hang on for a while. Nothing wrong with that!
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Post by drbill on Apr 13, 2021 13:39:40 GMT -6
I never found another MT that sounded like that one. Even though Collings is known for a lot of consistency, everyone once in a while a particular instrument just stands out. I have had 4 VERY much loved 000-18's that I've recorded over the years. One is like crystal - almost bell like, another just solid and round and full - wonderful sounding, another is dry and woody and unique - like the salt of the earth, and the fourth - a great all rounder. I own the dry woody and all rounder. Bought the all-rounder hoping for crystal, but it never really achieved that. They are ALL different, and all are 50+ years old - late 60's guitars. Every one unique, and I'd kill to own any of them. I do own two of them. Guitars are more unique than say compressors, although even those can really be unique. Capitol's m249 is the mic I'd do anything to own. Yeah, instruments are unique. If you sell it you'd better be OK with never having it's unique tone / playability / magic again. At least that's my perspective.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 13, 2021 16:40:16 GMT -6
Well - one thing is for sure - it won't get better sounding than this guitar...
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Post by chessparov on Apr 13, 2021 17:32:40 GMT -6
I just hope you write/co-write a Hit with it! You really have a wonderful voice. And "ya never know", with that combo. Chris
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Post by dmo on Apr 13, 2021 17:35:06 GMT -6
John, If you now feel nothing will sound better I'd say that's a keeper (even if not played as often).
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Post by the other mark williams on Apr 13, 2021 17:55:17 GMT -6
John, If you now feel nothing will sound better I'd say that's a keeper (even if not played as often).
I agree with Bill on this.
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Post by ab101 on Apr 13, 2021 18:13:10 GMT -6
Well - one thing is for sure - it won't get better sounding than this guitar... Please do not sell it. You are now on my prosperity prayer list. It is perfectly fine to prayer for prosperity! You will have all you need. In fact, it is obvious that you already are very prosperous in terms of friends. (I know it sounds corny but it is true!)
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Post by jcoutu1 on Apr 13, 2021 19:01:05 GMT -6
Well - one thing is for sure - it won't get better sounding than this guitar... If that's the case, maybe a good setup would bring it to the next level of playability.
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Post by gwlee7 on Apr 13, 2021 20:12:10 GMT -6
John maybe this guitar has few more more songs left in it since you are waffling on selling it. See if you can pull a couple more out of it and then decide.
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Post by jedhrmc on Apr 14, 2021 4:20:30 GMT -6
Here’s an oblique idea: since you’re ruminating so much over letting go of the Martin, sell the Gibson and renew your love and appreciation for the D-28!
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Post by nobtwiddler on Apr 14, 2021 8:54:11 GMT -6
John, Look if you're NOT using it much, and have some other gear that would help you in your pursuit of getting to the next level of Mixing / Production, then sell it. If you don't have any immediate equipment purchases in mind, then keep it for now, as you can sell it whenever, and it will most likely go up in value.
Since having to move last summer, I have sold 47 x Vintage tube amps from my collection, 17 x of my personal guitars, my Ferrari 512TR, my 2017 Miata Club, tons outboard gear, and much, much more. It just accumulates, and there really isn't enough time to use it all, so off it went.
Getting back to the guitars, I'm of the mind set that if you don't use an instrument for 6 months to a year, then it's time to sell it. The only exception to that rule...is if it's a specific instrument, that does one thing, but does it great, such as my 12 string Ric's, Zematis, & Harptones. Very specific sounds that are only used once in a while. Nothing I own is precious!
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Post by ab101 on Apr 14, 2021 11:22:42 GMT -6
As I stated, I had a Collings MT that was made in about 2001. I sold it some years later. Lately, I have a need for it and there is no other mandolin that had the special sound of that one. This includes mandolins that cost three times as much. It was truly unique. What one may think one year, is not what one may think in years to come. We are alive. So, may John be blessed with lots of money, no need to sell anything, that he will have every tool needed for his special deployment, and that he will be a vessel for all the beautiful music that this world so desperately needs. I have said my peace.
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Post by geoff738 on Apr 14, 2021 14:05:19 GMT -6
I’d keep it.
Cheers, Geoff
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