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Post by mcirish on Jul 29, 2021 6:10:24 GMT -6
Not to give too much away, but I finished building two of the Banzai KM84 clones. One of them is in the SDC tests I did. There are four mics in that test. Now that you know what one of them is, anyone care to guess the other three? They are all well known.
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Post by mrholmes on Aug 6, 2021 7:11:28 GMT -6
Not to give too much away, but I finished building two of the Banzai KM84 clones. One of them is in the SDC tests I did. There are four mics in that test. Now that you know what one of them is, anyone care to guess the other three? They are all well known.
What's your personal opinion? How do they compare to the original 84s?
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Post by mcirish on Aug 6, 2021 9:01:12 GMT -6
Four SDC Mics ComparedYou can listen for yourself and get a general idea of the differences. There is no processing on any of the multiple clips. Personally, the jury is still out on the Banzai KM84. It sounds good but I don't know that it sounds like my particular KM84 in the low end. The real KM84 has a lighter bottom end. The Banzai sounds bigger, which may work out better for some sources. In the schematic, Banzai went with a later revision that has C4 as a 4.7uf cap. It couples the FET to the transformer. I will be swapping that out for a 1uf cap. That may decrease the low end a bit. I hope to test that this weekend if I get time. The Banzai is not a bad mic in any way. It's just a bit different. Funny, but I still prefer my Oktava MC-012 mic to all of my others on certain acoustic instruments. To my ears, it may be the closest to the real KM84. Have a listen to the clips with good headphones or monitors and let me know what you think. There is no right or wrong answer. It's all just personal preference.
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Post by craigmorris74 on Aug 8, 2021 18:30:47 GMT -6
I roll off the low end with a shelf at about 250Hz when using my Banzai 84, so I'd love to hear some feedback about the capacitor change.
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Post by mcirish on Aug 8, 2021 19:07:44 GMT -6
I roll off the low end with a shelf at about 250Hz when using my Banzai 84, so I'd love to hear some feedback about the capacitor change. I made the change on one of my two today. I used a film capacitor instead of a tantalum. Had to extend the leads so it could lay down. Otherwise it wouldn't fit. I hope to run some tests soon. |
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Post by marylin on Aug 10, 2021 0:18:02 GMT -6
Try 470nF or even 220nF capacitor on output too... Make it switchable and you will hear the difference immediately. Pleas let us know.
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Post by craigmorris74 on Aug 31, 2021 19:08:35 GMT -6
I bought a Warm WA-84 omni capsule to try with my Banzai mic. I recorded a couple of takes of acoustic guitar, the Banzai capsule then the Warm on the same body. Attachments:banzai.mp3 (254.69 KB)
warm omni.mp3 (348.57 KB)
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Post by ragan on Aug 31, 2021 23:31:36 GMT -6
I bought a Warm WA-84 omni capsule to try with my Banzai mic. I recorded a couple of takes of acoustic guitar, the Banzai capsule then the Warm on the same body. Cool! I prefere the Banzai capsule, but the Warm omni is nice too. The Warm sounds quieter. I like that guitar a lot, sounds very early Beck-ish. What is it? |
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Post by craigmorris74 on Sept 1, 2021 9:59:23 GMT -6
I bought a Warm WA-84 omni capsule to try with my Banzai mic. I recorded a couple of takes of acoustic guitar, the Banzai capsule then the Warm on the same body. Cool! I prefere the Banzai capsule, but the Warm omni is nice too. The Warm sounds quieter. I like that guitar a lot, sounds very early Beck-ish. What is it? I like the sound of the Banzai, too. I usually roll a little of the bottom off when using it. The Warm has a more balanced low end to me. I'm super interested to know if they use a more accurate backplate in their capsules, but no enough to take the capsule apart to see. The guitar is a Dixon DG-4. It's my least expensive (by far), yet my favorite sounding acoustic! |
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Post by svart on Sept 20, 2021 7:22:27 GMT -6
Cool! I prefere the Banzai capsule, but the Warm omni is nice too. The Warm sounds quieter. I like that guitar a lot, sounds very early Beck-ish. What is it? I like the sound of the Banzai, too. I usually roll a little of the bottom off when using it. The Warm has a more balanced low end to me. I'm super interested to know if they use a more accurate backplate in their capsules, but no enough to take the capsule apart to see. The guitar is a Dixon DG-4. It's my least expensive (by far), yet my favorite sounding acoustic! I'd almost guarantee it's just the same chinese SDC we see in all the other mics. |
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Post by craigmorris74 on Sept 20, 2021 14:44:46 GMT -6
I like the sound of the Banzai, too. I usually roll a little of the bottom off when using it. The Warm has a more balanced low end to me. I'm super interested to know if they use a more accurate backplate in their capsules, but no enough to take the capsule apart to see. The guitar is a Dixon DG-4. It's my least expensive (by far), yet my favorite sounding acoustic! I'd almost guarantee it's just the same chinese SDC we see in all the other mics. I haven't seen another Chinese capsule that looks like it. I have the omni, and it looks very close to the kk85. No other Chinese company uses this capsule, I've looked hard. I'drake the Omni capsule apart to see if the backplate was the Neumann design, but I'm too cheap to ruin it. |
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