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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2021 10:51:44 GMT -6
When I listen to Maiden, realism is one of the last things I want. I'm looking to be transported to the place on the album cover, not thinking about the studio. Somewhere in Time might be the best they ever did for atmosphere. Greatest Maiden record EVER, IMHO. Love everything about it! At the age of nineteen, he became the Macedon king, and swore to rule all of Asia Minor…
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Post by viciousbliss on Nov 13, 2021 15:10:26 GMT -6
So, today I tried some stuff since my masters sounded a little dull with too much stereo linking when playing them back on speakers. I moved Unisum to the track and set it to about 45% linked. Tried Azure and Erin in mid-side. I find it sounds much better on this Acustica stuff. Then I put Satin after that while cranking the 102 15ips preset into the red. Much better.
I tried using more eq on Claro and the HPF in the mix window. It’s easy to make it sound good, but at the end of the day it’s still a basic digital eq. To me, Azure2 is still the best of the mastering eqs I’ve tried. It seems to provide everything good about tubes without weird plugin artifacts. Maybe one could use PA Black Box or Pretube or some other plugin like that for character and pair it with Claro.
I think Azure uses the longest samples of any Acustica plugin. Or at least it did at one time.
On the master fader all that’s left now is TDR Limiter 6 and the Good Dither.
That’s another thing with limiters, they just don’t seem to allow any unlinking of the stereo image.
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Post by viciousbliss on Nov 15, 2021 11:27:20 GMT -6
I got much better results further unlinking Unisum and turning its HPF sidechain up around 250hz. Then running Pretube-Satin-Azure2. Azure beat Claro every time. I'm using it in MS very effectively. If this plugin sounds this good, I wonder how great the Knif Soma hardware is. The newest Pretube update is a big improvement. My mixes really benefit from having tubes added in mastering apparently.
Satin's crosstalk really does a great job at making everything sound whole. Just up it to -65 from -75 on the 102 preset. For my original recordings all done in the same room, turning up the cross talk was horrific. So, this is a good tip if your tracks don't already blend well together.
So, the only thing linked for compression or limiting here is the TDR Limiter 6.
I've done more comparisons with Oxford Reverb vs UAD Lexicon 224, UAD Lexicon 480, SP2016, Capitol Chambers, and Transatlantic Plate.
The big difference is that the Oxford sticks to the source like glue, even more than the Lexicon. It enables vocals to blend much better.
More transparent as well while not sounding dull or flat.
I mastered mixes where I used other verbs for instruments and Oxford for vocals, as well as all Oxford and all other verb mixes.
Every time the ones with all Oxford won. All the benefits of the others, but much more tidy.
These are dense rock and metal mixes.
Deactivating Molot GE from the instrument busses seemed to help the mixes too. It's easy to go overboard with that one.
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Post by ab101 on Nov 16, 2021 13:36:42 GMT -6
Thanks for mentioning the Oxford reverb. I really did not need another reverb. But I began with the demo and then I had to buy it. And talk about a ton of presets to start with the tweaks!
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Post by viciousbliss on Nov 16, 2021 15:47:07 GMT -6
Thanks for mentioning the Oxford reverb. I really did not need another reverb. But I began with the demo and then I had to buy it. And talk about a ton of presets to start with the tweaks! Those presets are among the most usable there are. Guess I should also note that I'm using Ocean Way as a regular reverb. I tried removing it to see if that made anything better and it just really messed up my work. I often use Ocean Way, Seventh Heaven Pro or SP2016, 480 with the In The Past preset, and some FX all on their own aux tracks. Sonnox-Widen, H-Delay, Fuse Bucket, EC-300, CLAEffects for the throw, etc. The Oxford just does a tremendous job at fitting between all this stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2021 16:02:27 GMT -6
I got much better results further unlinking Unisum and turning its HPF sidechain up around 250hz. Then running Pretube-Satin-Azure2. Azure beat Claro every time. I'm using it in MS very effectively. If this plugin sounds this good, I wonder how great the Knif Soma hardware is. The newest Pretube update is a big improvement. My mixes really benefit from having tubes added in mastering apparently. Satin's crosstalk really does a great job at making everything sound whole. Just up it to -65 from -75 on the 102 preset. For my original recordings all done in the same room, turning up the cross talk was horrific. So, this is a good tip if your tracks don't already blend well together. So, the only thing linked for compression or limiting here is the TDR Limiter 6. I've done more comparisons with Oxford Reverb vs UAD Lexicon 224, UAD Lexicon 480, SP2016, Capitol Chambers, and Transatlantic Plate. The big difference is that the Oxford sticks to the source like glue, even more than the Lexicon. It enables vocals to blend much better. More transparent as well while not sounding dull or flat. I mastered mixes where I used other verbs for instruments and Oxford for vocals, as well as all Oxford and all other verb mixes. Every time the ones with all Oxford won. All the benefits of the others, but much more tidy. These are dense rock and metal mixes. Deactivating Molot GE from the instrument busses seemed to help the mixes too. It's easy to go overboard with that one. Lexicon is grain. I really like the relab sonsig for not there reverb. It’s so good. Way better than the lx480 special effect halls and plates that make snares sound like they’re on scrambled porn in the 80d
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Post by viciousbliss on Nov 17, 2021 10:56:16 GMT -6
I got much better results further unlinking Unisum and turning its HPF sidechain up around 250hz. Then running Pretube-Satin-Azure2. Azure beat Claro every time. I'm using it in MS very effectively. If this plugin sounds this good, I wonder how great the Knif Soma hardware is. The newest Pretube update is a big improvement. My mixes really benefit from having tubes added in mastering apparently. Satin's crosstalk really does a great job at making everything sound whole. Just up it to -65 from -75 on the 102 preset. For my original recordings all done in the same room, turning up the cross talk was horrific. So, this is a good tip if your tracks don't already blend well together. So, the only thing linked for compression or limiting here is the TDR Limiter 6. I've done more comparisons with Oxford Reverb vs UAD Lexicon 224, UAD Lexicon 480, SP2016, Capitol Chambers, and Transatlantic Plate. The big difference is that the Oxford sticks to the source like glue, even more than the Lexicon. It enables vocals to blend much better. More transparent as well while not sounding dull or flat. I mastered mixes where I used other verbs for instruments and Oxford for vocals, as well as all Oxford and all other verb mixes. Every time the ones with all Oxford won. All the benefits of the others, but much more tidy. These are dense rock and metal mixes. Deactivating Molot GE from the instrument busses seemed to help the mixes too. It's easy to go overboard with that one. Lexicon is grain. I really like the relab sonsig for not there reverb. It’s so good. Way better than the lx480 special effect halls and plates that make snares sound like they’re on scrambled porn in the 80d I've tried to love the Sonsig but have never really favored it. In doing more comparisons, the Oxford creates an urgency in the sound that I think is helpful with rock and metal. The computer monitor I've been stuck with is apparently also some kinda TV I found out after accidentally playing a track and having it come through its speakers. Real versions of covers I've recorded still sound good on it. So, I've been using that to kinda test whether my mastered tracks are any good. It's even less forgiving than those Bose speakers. My mastering chain is now down to Unisum-Satin-EQ. Had to put just about the least aggressive settings on Uni and run it in paralell and remove the Satin head bump while tweaking the UAD Massive Passive to get close to the result that I wanted. I'll have to try some other Eqs too. Tonight I'm going to try Magenta again. Removed the TDR Limiter from the master fader and left the Good Dither. With someone else's mixes, I imagine I may need a whole different set of tools.
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Post by jhsmastering on Nov 23, 2021 7:10:11 GMT -6
TDR Limiter 6 GE is on sale at AudioDeluxe for $10! Just sign up for a free account and the discount can be yours.
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Post by viciousbliss on Nov 24, 2021 9:05:47 GMT -6
I’m testing a lot out. Debating whether I should get a Slate VSX instead of more plugins. The best mastering chain I’m coming up with now is Magenta eq-Satin-color compressor-Unisum. Just set it up last night and I think that’s the order. UAD SSL bus comp was what I had for color, though I’ll be trying some other stuff out tonight.
One thing I had to do was decrease a lot of the Ocean Way in my mixes. I’m hoping if I got the VSX that I would have to do a lot less trial and error. Balancing reverb and color gets tricky with headphones.
That TDR stuff is a steal on Audiodeluxe.
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Post by woofhead on Nov 24, 2021 18:39:29 GMT -6
TDR Limiter 6 GE is on sale at AudioDeluxe for $10! Just sign up for a free account and the discount can be yours. Im seeing TDR Kotelnikov for 10 but not the limiter. Is it perhaps for new accounts only(i already have one) or am I missing something? Thanks
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Post by jhsmastering on Nov 25, 2021 7:18:37 GMT -6
TDR Limiter 6 GE is on sale at AudioDeluxe for $10! Just sign up for a free account and the discount can be yours. Im seeing TDR Kotelnikov for 10 but not the limiter. Is it perhaps for new accounts only(i already have one) or am I missing something? Thanks That one's on me...read too fast and didn't realize I was looking at a different plug. You are correct, Kotelnikov and Slick are $10 each, Limiter 6 is $29. My mistake!
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Post by bossanova on Apr 17, 2022 21:15:41 GMT -6
The TDR Limiter is actually $10 now, I just bought one
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Apr 17, 2022 23:19:50 GMT -6
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Post by tasteliketape on Apr 17, 2022 23:19:50 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2022 9:34:16 GMT -6
Tokyo Dawn sells tons of plugins. Making some of the best stuff, selling it for dirt cheap, and giving away free versions helps. Slick EQ GE is my most used plugin.
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Post by the other mark williams on Apr 18, 2022 9:40:22 GMT -6
The TDR Limiter is actually $10 now, I just bought one Thanks for the heads up! Just went and got it at that price.
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 18, 2022 10:03:18 GMT -6
You can get the entire tdr bundle for like sub $150, nutz fir such great plugs.
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Post by mcirish on Apr 18, 2022 11:19:54 GMT -6
I didn't need another limiter but it's hard to pass up any TDL stuff at that price. bought...
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Post by yewtreemagic on Apr 18, 2022 16:55:57 GMT -6
I keep returning to the transparency of PSP Xenon with its 'C' transient setting.
It also has a handy Auto button that adjusts the output level to match that of the input, so you can then toggle the Xenon Power button to hear your audio before/after the limiter at the same loudness.
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Post by the other mark williams on Apr 18, 2022 17:13:24 GMT -6
I keep returning to the transparency of PSP Xenon with its 'C' transient setting. It also has a handy Auto button that adjusts the output level to match that of the input, so you can then toggle the Xenon Power button to hear your audio before/after the limiter at the same loudness. I still like Xenon, too. It does a nice job. DMG Limitless is still my personal fave, though.
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