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Post by phdamage on Mar 17, 2021 18:55:10 GMT -6
I’ll second the fab filter pro-q3. Though I sometimes use the brainworx v3 in its place (I like the auto solo functionality sometimes) Have a look at Plugin Alliance bx Cleansweep Pro. If you're a filter aficionado, this is a good one. Filters only, high pass, low pass. But there's an impressive array of different models to mess with. Just started using it. I needed something to take the nasty top end off my Torpedo Captor load box/DI and this one seems to do it pretty well. Haven't tested the HPF in depth yet but the LPF has a nice sound. Funny, I bought this for nothing with sales and coupons. I have yet to install it
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Post by Quint on Mar 17, 2021 20:11:43 GMT -6
Yes, the filters, high and low, are a single circuit. When engaged, with the LPF knob fully clockwise, its low passing at whatever that frequency IS....someone on the mixbus forums got forensic with it if you want to know what the exact frequency is....I just know my HD suddenly sounded like SD. The HF loss of tape was fought MUCH lower than that. I know I never even considered the range up there....until 44.1 started audibly crimping it....and I didnt KNOW thats what I was hearing....I just knew the CDs never sounded like the analog OR 48khz digital tapes we turned in. It wouldnt be until years later Id spend much time experimenting with “why”. If you can hear HF loss with it turned all the way clockwise to 20kHz, there must be some inherent HF loss specifically intrinsic to the filter circuit, regaress of where the lpf knob is turned. That's the point I was trying to make. My point with tape was that, as you said, if HF loss was being fought at much lower frequencies than the AES cutoff of 15kHz, then it wouldn't seem to be a high priority to worry about those AES lpf standards in instances where you're having trouble fighting HF loss at frequencies much lower than 15 kHz. By the way, do you know how steep the filters are on the Harrison? This conversation has also sort of reignited my interest in trying Harrison Mixbus one of these days. Maybe I'll pick it during the next black friday.
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Post by 80hz on Mar 17, 2021 21:07:03 GMT -6
I liked the filters (and the EQ in general) on the UAD Harrison so much that I bought a pair of the Great River hardware units. My favorite filters, particularly the HPF. Too funny as this has 100% been my experience with the UAD plugin so far. I use the harrison on everything!!!
How are you finding the hardware? Did you feel it has more depth and mojo than the plugin or did UA crush it on the emulation?
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Post by ragan on Mar 17, 2021 22:11:49 GMT -6
I liked the filters (and the EQ in general) on the UAD Harrison so much that I bought a pair of the Great River hardware units. My favorite filters, particularly the HPF. Too funny as this has 100% been my experience with the UAD plugin so far. I use the harrison on everything!!!
How are you finding the hardware? Did you feel it has more depth and mojo than the plugin or did UA crush it on the emulation?
It's been years now since I got out of UAD land but when I originally got the GR Harrison EQs, I found them to exhibit the usual advantage over the plugin...a little more solidity to the sound and a bit more kind of 'front to back depth'. Like if you run several tracks through the hardware and then compare it to using the plugin on those tracks, the soundstage where everything needs to fit together takes on a bit more reality to the image with the HW. All wildly subjective of course but I've done so much HW vs SW comparing by now that I'm pretty used to the typical differences, hard as they are to describe. The long and the short of it is that yeah, I liked the hardware better.
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Post by popmann on Mar 17, 2021 23:38:01 GMT -6
Ive never looked up the steepness of the Harrison filters.
I did just now for you:
Filter Frequencies: LPF 12 dB/octave, frequency range (approx) 160 to 20,000 Hz HPF 12 dB/octave, frequency range (approx) 20 to 3,100 Hz
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Post by Martin John Butler on Mar 18, 2021 8:59:02 GMT -6
In Logic, I just use the channel EQ and use my ears. It does offer only a slope though. I should check all my plugs to see if one has a hard cutoff. That could be useful occasionally I guess.
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Post by Guitar on Mar 18, 2021 9:46:53 GMT -6
The Softube Weiss EQ MP has a 96 dB cutoff filter slope option, really cleaned up one of my bassy tracks recently, actually made it louder, I was impressed.
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Post by jpanderson80 on Mar 18, 2021 11:24:11 GMT -6
Here's an interesting one not yet mentioned. www.airwindows.com/hermepass/I use TDR Slick too. Britson is great and if I'm mixing, I use that right off the bat. Baxter (AA Coral version) gets action too.
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Post by jpanderson80 on Mar 18, 2021 11:25:22 GMT -6
The Softube Weiss EQ MP has a 96 dB cutoff filter slope option, really cleaned up one of my bassy tracks recently, actually made it louder, I was impressed. It's so weird to me sometimes how filters interact with the material. I always like experimenting to find the one that works the best. In my experience, it's not always what I guess would sound best.
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Post by Guitar on Mar 18, 2021 13:14:34 GMT -6
The Softube Weiss EQ MP has a 96 dB cutoff filter slope option, really cleaned up one of my bassy tracks recently, actually made it louder, I was impressed. It's so weird to me sometimes how filters interact with the material. I always like experimenting to find the one that works the best. In my experience, it's not always what I guess would sound best. I agree, I was caught a bit off guard too. I'm relatively aware that a filter like that is totally going to screw your phase from that high of a Q, but it completely worked within the track, so I went with it. Sounded good so I can't complain about technical sophistry at that point.
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Post by ab101 on Mar 18, 2021 13:35:53 GMT -6
The Softube Weiss EQ MP has a 96 dB cutoff filter slope option, really cleaned up one of my bassy tracks recently, actually made it louder, I was impressed. Hi - are you speaking about this softube Weiss eq? www.softube.com/weiss-eq1It is expensive - but I will check it out! Thank you!
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Post by Guitar on Mar 18, 2021 14:24:27 GMT -6
The Softube Weiss EQ MP has a 96 dB cutoff filter slope option, really cleaned up one of my bassy tracks recently, actually made it louder, I was impressed. Hi - are you speaking about this softube Weiss eq? www.softube.com/weiss-eq1It is expensive - but I will check it out! Thank you! Hi, ab101, I was referring to the Weiss EQ MP product from Softube. It is, in fact, included in that bundle. But that is the "big daddy" bundle with the "main" EQ1 plugin. The EQ1 will do dynamic EQ, linear phase EQ, and regular minimum phase EQ. This second product, the EQ MP is derived from the minimum phase mode of the EQ1, hence the "MP." It doesn't have the other modes. But it does have steeper filters, like I was referring to. It is also more CPU efficient and lower latency than the EQ1. It also has a friendly graphic style interface that I prefer for most types of work. You could buy it separately, if you wanted to. It's about 200 but I got it half price in a recent sale. It's a top notch plugin, sounds better than most EQ's, absolutely. You'll just have to hear it but I'm totally sold on it now. Been mixing with it and getting good results.
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Post by 80hz on Mar 19, 2021 10:06:29 GMT -6
Too funny as this has 100% been my experience with the UAD plugin so far. I use the harrison on everything!!!
How are you finding the hardware? Did you feel it has more depth and mojo than the plugin or did UA crush it on the emulation?
It's been years now since I got out of UAD land but when I originally got the GR Harrison EQs, I found them to exhibit the usual advantage over the plugin...a little more solidity to the sound and a bit more kind of 'front to back depth'. Like if you run several tracks through the hardware and then compare it to using the plugin on those tracks, the soundstage where everything needs to fit together takes on a bit more reality to the image with the HW. All wildly subjective of course but I've done so much HW vs SW comparing by now that I'm pretty used to the typical differences, hard as they are to describe. The long and the short of it is that yeah, I liked the hardware better. Awesome thanks for that feedback! Wouldn't mind a couple of the 500 series for busses etc.
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Post by Guitar on Mar 29, 2021 15:11:45 GMT -6
It's so weird to me sometimes how filters interact with the material. I always like experimenting to find the one that works the best. In my experience, it's not always what I guess would sound best. I agree, I was caught a bit off guard too. I'm relatively aware that a filter like that is totally going to screw your phase from that high of a Q, but it completely worked within the track, so I went with it. Sounded good so I can't complain about technical sophistry at that point. This sort of happened again today, I was dealing with an uninspiring early morning headphone mix, testing TDR Nova and Slick EQ M. They are super clean, no color, almost boring if that's what you're looking for. Anyway, I scooched up the HPF on the bass guitar from 20 Hz up to about 40 Hz and the whole track got louder and sounded better. Must have been some sub crap coming off that P bass that was eating up all the headroom in my limiter. You just hear it as mud or rumble, or don't hear it much at all. So yeah, the clean and tidy TDR filters are nice too. Nova GE has one of the steepest HPF I've ever seen, although I haven't listened to it yet. Slick EQ M is more gentle, and that's the one I was using.
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Post by mrholmes on Mar 29, 2021 19:09:39 GMT -6
In Logic, I just use the channel EQ and use my ears. It does offer only a slope though. I should check all my plugs to see if one has a hard cutoff. That could be useful occasionally I guess. TDR Nova cuts out @ 72db and is freeware.
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Post by mrholmes on Mar 29, 2021 19:19:40 GMT -6
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