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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 13, 2021 12:37:36 GMT -6
A very well done show and tell examining how to max cpu performance in a real world logic session test case.
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Post by svart on Jan 13, 2021 12:54:09 GMT -6
What's interesting is that Apple seems to be up to their old tricks again with benchmark reporting. Their marketing is making claims against much older versions of Intel and AMD mobility processors and only reporting specific benchmarks where they have advantages, but the Cinebench tests are starting to show that 3-4 generation old Intel and AMD mobile chips are still dominating the M1 in most performance metrics.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 13, 2021 12:57:16 GMT -6
Interesting cus this video references sort of the contrary as in his previous video he showed his intel machine giving up the ghost long before the m1? The issue really becomes the thermal impact and noise from the fans under heavy cpu load?
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 14, 2021 11:04:27 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 14, 2021 11:04:53 GMT -6
What's interesting is that Apple seems to be up to their old tricks again with benchmark reporting. Their marketing is making claims against much older versions of Intel and AMD mobility processors and only reporting specific benchmarks where they have advantages, but the Cinebench tests are starting to show that 3-4 generation old Intel and AMD mobile chips are still dominating the M1 in most performance metrics. I’m beginning to think Apple stole your girlfriend  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2021 11:45:08 GMT -6
What's interesting is that Apple seems to be up to their old tricks again with benchmark reporting. Their marketing is making claims against much older versions of Intel and AMD mobility processors and only reporting specific benchmarks where they have advantages, but the Cinebench tests are starting to show that 3-4 generation old Intel and AMD mobile chips are still dominating the M1 in most performance metrics. Nobody has shown a very intensive workflow yet. I want to see tons of VSTis, maxed out analog emulations like the Lindell 50 and 80 and The Glue at 16x oversampling, crazy reverbs like Seventh Heaven and Kush GoldPlate, something like U-he Satin on every track, brand new the plugs, the neural amp sims, U-he Diva, Acoustica plugs, etc. Everybody is fanboying and nobody wants to try push it over the edge. Instead we get videos showing that Logic can run 500 stock plugins. Well it and Reaper already could. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Jan 14, 2021 12:30:29 GMT -6
What's interesting is that Apple seems to be up to their old tricks again with benchmark reporting. Their marketing is making claims against much older versions of Intel and AMD mobility processors and only reporting specific benchmarks where they have advantages, but the Cinebench tests are starting to show that 3-4 generation old Intel and AMD mobile chips are still dominating the M1 in most performance metrics. This was certainly true when they first annouced the M1. But now people have actually had it and using it, it's actually not untrue. There are countless YT videos and reviews out there now of people using a mac mini M1 up against their 10-20k Mac Pro's they just bought and the 1000 buck a roo mac mini...keeps up. Or beats it even. If the way it handles video is an indication, it'll never break a sweat doing audio production. Plus they are already planning the release of the M1x which will be even more powerful. It's game changing either way. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 14, 2021 13:03:21 GMT -6
What's interesting is that Apple seems to be up to their old tricks again with benchmark reporting. Their marketing is making claims against much older versions of Intel and AMD mobility processors and only reporting specific benchmarks where they have advantages, but the Cinebench tests are starting to show that 3-4 generation old Intel and AMD mobile chips are still dominating the M1 in most performance metrics. Nobody has shown a very intensive workflow yet. I want to see tons of VSTis, maxed out analog emulations like the Lindell 50 and 80 and The Glue at 16x oversampling, crazy reverbs like Seventh Heaven and Kush GoldPlate, something like U-he Satin on every track, brand new the plugs, the neural amp sims, U-he Diva, Acoustica plugs, etc. Everybody is fanboying and nobody wants to try push it over the edge. Instead we get videos showing that Logic can run 500 stock plugins. Well it and Reaper already could. not certain this is true? There was a comparison between a logic session in a intel mini and the mi. He loaded up his session with logic’s most intensive verbs and vi’s and the doubled the session, up to approximately 1,000 plug ins, the m1 didn’t flinch has still had left over processing capacity, no thermal issues or fan noise. I understand still early days in the field for m1, but it’s actual performance does seem impressive. |
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Post by ericn on Jan 15, 2021 10:29:41 GMT -6
What's interesting is that Apple seems to be up to their old tricks again with benchmark reporting. Their marketing is making claims against much older versions of Intel and AMD mobility processors and only reporting specific benchmarks where they have advantages, but the Cinebench tests are starting to show that 3-4 generation old Intel and AMD mobile chips are still dominating the M1 in most performance metrics. This was certainly true when they first annouced the M1. But now people have actually had it and using it, it's actually not untrue. There are countless YT videos and reviews out there now of people using a mac mini M1 up against their 10-20k Mac Pro's they just bought and the 1000 buck a roo mac mini...keeps up. Or beats it even. If the way it handles video is an indication, it'll never break a sweat doing audio production. Plus they are already planning the release of the M1x which will be even more powerful. It's game changing either way. So much of this is about what software your running, Rosetta definitely slows things down. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 15, 2021 11:11:26 GMT -6
Well, the videos I have seen said the first time you are aware of running Rosetta, but afterwards , people seem to say it doesn’t seem to slow things down a lot , but certainly, once plugs are big Sur and m1 certified that will minimize inefficiencies.
I run smaller sessions not a lot of vi, and now run UA again, so once it’s m1 certified, I think an m1 mini would seriously outperform my 2012 mbp:)
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Post by cyrano on Jan 15, 2021 12:57:20 GMT -6
What's interesting is that Apple seems to be up to their old tricks again with benchmark reporting. Their marketing is making claims against much older versions of Intel and AMD mobility processors and only reporting specific benchmarks where they have advantages, but the Cinebench tests are starting to show that 3-4 generation old Intel and AMD mobile chips are still dominating the M1 in most performance metrics. I've seen dozens of benchmarks that show at the very least very good performance for the M1. None of these from Apple. In fact, AFAIK, Apple doesn't even do benchmarks, but keeps it very simple with very general statements like "four times as fast..." Intel is dead in the water. They've been promising things they can't realise for decades now. They've also suffered a serious brain drain the last years. Performance wise, the only one that can keep up, is AMD's many core Ryzen. But that's ignoring power. What AMD's Ryzen at highest speed needs is 50 to 75 W. The M1 only needs 5 to 15W. In desktops AMD Ryzen maybe king still. For a while. For anything portable and servers, the X86 platform is finished. For those interested, here's an independent and unbiased benchmark for SQL (postgresql) database use: info.crunchydata.com/blog/postgresql-benchmarks-apple-arm-m1-macbook-pro-2020The cloud is already running on ARM processors. It'll take years before most servers have been replaced, but it is happening. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 15, 2021 14:50:40 GMT -6
The watt consumption is telling as experienced users marvel at the m1 battery life and thermal performance.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Jan 16, 2021 9:06:11 GMT -6
Here are some vids w/ real world testing & comparisons!!
video work comparison M1 vs Ryzen
rendering 4K video
150 + Instrument Track Test M1 LPX.
How many Serum tracks w/ M1 in LPX?
M1 Mac Mini plugin test
M1 MBP vs i9 MBP
M1 MBA Ableton Live Omnisphere VST test
M1 MBP vs Mac Pro Trashcan for Music Production
M1 MBA after one month for music production
M1 MBA to mix a feature film in PT?
M1 MBA performance w/ Studio one 4 & 5
Ableton 10 on M1 MBA vs 2020 Intel MBP
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Post by lando on Jan 16, 2021 12:30:09 GMT -6
In the rendering video it beat the top MBP i9 that costs twice the money by a huge margin while using much less fan. And the i9 was a huge leap forward when it came a few years ago, before that generation the progress had been stagnant for some time. This new processor is revolutionary. The even faster version for 14” and 16” MBP is going to be something to behold, hope they come this year.
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Post by the other mark williams on Jan 16, 2021 12:54:29 GMT -6
In the rendering video it beat the top MBP i9 that costs twice the money by a huge margin while using much less fan. And the i9 was a huge leap forward when it came a few years ago, before that generation the progress had been stagnant for some time. This new processor is revolutionary. The even faster version for 14” and 16” MBP is going to be something to behold, hope they come this year. I don't often have sympathy for Apple, but I imagine it's been driving them crazy for years that Intel was making such comparatively miniscule gains year-over-year. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 29, 2021 18:10:25 GMT -6
an m1 UA and waves set up video
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 29, 2021 21:35:05 GMT -6
Strange. I guess UAD will figure this out and fix it.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 30, 2021 13:10:21 GMT -6
UA is Big Sur certified not m1, people run ua uncertified on their m1 by modifying security settings.
Waves, had, I think fixed now, a Big Sur bug.
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Post by Drew @ UA on Jan 30, 2021 13:38:55 GMT -6
Strange. I guess UAD will figure this out and fix it. We've not released any M1 qualified software yet. However, anyone that is "off roading" and having fun with their M1 (the basic is compiled and is on 9.13.1), please do report any bugs to support. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 31, 2021 18:55:16 GMT -6
Here’s my friend Colt Capperrune’s opinion on it.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 31, 2021 19:33:21 GMT -6
Cool, you can reduce the security settings and run UA in the m1, if you want to! |
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