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Post by ragan on Dec 12, 2020 14:28:48 GMT -6
Yeah I grabbed those too. Very nice.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Dec 12, 2020 15:45:56 GMT -6
I'm still going back and forth with Inspired Acoustics trying validate the Inspirata reverb. I think their concept is brilliant so I'm trying to be patient and helpful, but clearly it wasn't ready for people to download yet, at least not for Mac users.
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Post by Guitar on Dec 12, 2020 16:56:29 GMT -6
I'm still going back and forth with Inspired Acoustics trying validate the Inspirata reverb. I think their concept is brilliant so I'm trying to be patient and helpful, but clearly it wasn't ready for people to download yet, at least not for Mac users. I just read their software, even if you download it, is having problems with Logic and Mac, so caveat emptor I guess.
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Post by the other mark williams on Dec 12, 2020 17:02:00 GMT -6
Wish these came in 96kHz versions. The demos sound great.
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Post by superwack on Dec 12, 2020 17:31:15 GMT -6
I'm still going back and forth with Inspired Acoustics trying validate the Inspirata reverb. I think their concept is brilliant so I'm trying to be patient and helpful, but clearly it wasn't ready for people to download yet, at least not for Mac users. I saw this product announced on Pro Tools expert a few days ago and even the initial announcement said they knew of Mac issues, 0% downloads, lack of validating, etc. and asked us to hold tight and they were working on it. I tried a few times with no luck so I’m just waiting til they publicly announce it’s been figured out
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Post by Guitar on Dec 12, 2020 17:37:33 GMT -6
I got it working on PC, Cubase, Windows 10. It's a nice reverb very much inspired by Altiverb. I restarted my download after it finally failed, at the 5 hour point.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Dec 12, 2020 18:35:38 GMT -6
Guess I'll just let it go and wait until it's ready. I get the jitters when it involves iLok. I've had disasters before with one plug (Slate) shutting me out of Logic completely for two days.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2020 18:44:35 GMT -6
Guess I'll just let it go and wait until it's ready. I get the jitters when it involves iLok. I've had disasters before with one plug (Slate) shutting me out of Logic completely for two days. Avoid Slate. They're buggy and do weird stuff like constantly call the usb stick to verify that you don't own or have installed certain plugs. the Pace services are usually 0.0% cpu use. I have no problems at all with PSP, Kush, and Eventide. Always use a physical ilok and when it's failing, get a backup to transfer your licenses or buy the "anti-theft"
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Post by Martin John Butler on Dec 12, 2020 19:14:53 GMT -6
I haven't bought a Slate product since and it's unlikely I ever will. That nearly crushed my brains dealing Slate and iLok and Apple. One kept referring me to the other for days.
Stephen Slate is a good guy, we've met briefly a few times and he's genuine in person. That said, I bought FG-X over six years ago based on the promise an important major remake/upgrade was coming and previous owners would get a free upgrade. After two years passed I stoped asking for it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2020 12:15:28 GMT -6
Damn and I’ve been lusting after everything. Including the old school Ultrachannel and ultrareverb ported from the pro tools tdm days Those were my first two Eventide plugins I think, a few years back. They're more conventional than some of their other ones they make, but you hear the Eventide "quality" in there, for sure. They are so good at effects, I guess it's what they do. Ultrachannel is cool. I’ve been playing with it and the dual compressors are useful and the built in delay and pitch shifting are easy mode. Cramped highs in the eq. Very digital. Also weirdly, the output transformer emulation keeps aliasing out of the midrange so it sounds less boxy with it on. It still has that “old dsp” sound to it like waves, metric halo, and psp (probably the best at it) but it’s unique
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Post by Martin John Butler on Dec 13, 2020 13:00:20 GMT -6
Funny, I have the Eventide Ultra Channel,I tried it years ago and left it in the digital closet to gather digital dust. I'd forgotten about it.
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Post by Guitar on Dec 13, 2020 13:03:39 GMT -6
I like UltraChannel for the widening thing, vocals or any central center panned instrument. Haven't used it in a while, either. The GUI is too small for 2020.
The UltraReverb was the one that sort of mesmerized me for a while. Not really sure why. Some fascination with the H9000 hardware it was ported from, and a connection to Squarepusher who I listen to as a fan.
The latest one I used on an actual mix was the Instant Flanger. I automated the big knob to do some "manual flanging" on a drum machine. Pretty cool. The phaser one of those is good too.
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Post by chessparov on Dec 13, 2020 22:13:42 GMT -6
Favorite FREE/non-Stock DAW reverb(s)? Great thread. Thanks everyone, Chris
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2020 4:27:05 GMT -6
Thanks guys. I’m going to check out the Eventide SP2016 and the Goodhertz Protoverb. The Eventide is on sale so that helps. Anyone ever use the Relab LX480? It looks cool but is 100 more dollars than the Eventide. It does more though but the Eventide looks easier to use and that matters a lot for me. Fabfilter reverb looks cool too. I’m guessing it’s a bit boring and dry sounding? Everything I’ve heard about the Bricasti is awesome. I want one but cannot afford it now and need to get a new PC and more reliable monitors for my next big audio purchases. Definitely check out the SP2016. Personally I think it's great, one of my favorites for sure. Have you demo'd Relab Sonsig Rev-A? It's got a streamlined interface but it is deep and it's got a 224 and Quantec output stage (also a clean one). I got the freebie CLA Echothing on BF and, frankly, thought the Plate sounded terrible so I was sniffing around (because I need more reverbs??!!?) and impulse bought the new-ish Denise Audio Perfect Plate on a whim. Haven't used it much but I really, really like it and it's got ducking and can do reverse plate. There is an "XL" version and you can update from the normal one - I didn't think I needed those features though. I’ll warn you there website is not too easy but if you go to the perfect plate XL and scroll down there is a good demo video where they go through both Thanks for the Songsig Rev-A recommendation. I dig it more than the LX480 already. Bought. This is awesome. This is like Valhalla Vintage if it didn't suck.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2020 4:38:51 GMT -6
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Post by viciousbliss on Dec 14, 2020 11:17:09 GMT -6
Transatlantic and Capitol are the most impressive on their own, but sometimes they just aren't fast enough to keep up with fast-moving, dense rock and metal stuff. I've been using the UAD 224 a lot more lately. Seems that I can get a lot of what I liked about TAP and CC out of it now that I'm a bit more familiar with it. The UAD 480 sounds a lot better than the Relab and has the Effects algorithm, which I love the In The Past reverse reverb preset of. The 480 sounds a lot more thin than the 224, plus it's so much more complex. So I find it harder to work with. Don't use most of the Eventide stuff much lately but the SP2016 is pretty awesome. T-verb is great for vocals and I include it on my mixes now. Never got into Valhalla, just sounded like a worse take on the stuff it is inspired by. Ocean Way is still being used by me with pre-fader sends as it really makes recordings sound much more lively. Helps to alleviate that kinda flat and static ITB sound. I've thought the Exponential stuff was good, just not preferable to the classics. Seventh Heaven Pro gets in there here and there, usually in place of some other modulation effect. I'd get the UAD BX20 if I had enough coupons to get it down to around $40. It doesn't seem that essential considering what I have already. Tsar-1 is great and a bit overlooked. But I don't use it much. Mostly I just stick to my UAD staples and T-verb. How does Eventide black hole work for speed? I need something huge for black metal. I never liked Valhalla. I used to use Variety of Sound epicverb and when you eqed the trash can out of that, Valhalla Vintage sounded terrible compared to it. Those plugs were 32 bit and windows only so they flew by a lot of people. If you don't have UAD, I'd probably try something from Relab like Sonsig or VSRS24. The latter still finds its way into my mixes. Never been a big fan of their 480. It might work for you though. I think it's been updated since I last messed around with it. Transatlantic Plate would be the first thing I'd try outside of UAD. See if you can get that to work for you, I've used it on some Metal stuff. Blackhole is something that sounds really cool in its promo videos but not something I've ended up using a lot. Another one to look at is Oxford Reverb. I'd buy it if Sonnox would drop their prices. Seems silly to me to be paying $165 or whatever for it nowadays. Seventh Heaven Pro could also do the job, I just don't think it's ideal for Metal. The 224 does something more than speed and sticking to the source, it adds a sort of liveliness and excitement. Sonsig and the NI attempt at the 224 sound didn't really live up to the UAD.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 6:35:25 GMT -6
How does Eventide black hole work for speed? I need something huge for black metal. I never liked Valhalla. I used to use Variety of Sound epicverb and when you eqed the trash can out of that, Valhalla Vintage sounded terrible compared to it. Those plugs were 32 bit and windows only so they flew by a lot of people. If you don't have UAD, I'd probably try something from Relab like Sonsig or VSRS24. The latter still finds its way into my mixes. Never been a big fan of their 480. It might work for you though. I think it's been updated since I last messed around with it. Transatlantic Plate would be the first thing I'd try outside of UAD. See if you can get that to work for you, I've used it on some Metal stuff. Blackhole is something that sounds really cool in its promo videos but not something I've ended up using a lot. Another one to look at is Oxford Reverb. I'd buy it if Sonnox would drop their prices. Seems silly to me to be paying $165 or whatever for it nowadays. Seventh Heaven Pro could also do the job, I just don't think it's ideal for Metal. The 224 does something more than speed and sticking to the source, it adds a sort of liveliness and excitement. Sonsig and the NI attempt at the 224 sound didn't really live up to the UAD. I bought the Sonsig Rev-A. It was the best sounding algorithmic plugin reverb I've heard. It kicks the LX480's ass. The LX480 gui is convoluted and the sound reminds me too much of bad late 80s and 90s records. It's pretty subtle when not full blown wet. Sonsig can do subtle better and sounds much better wet. So does the Eventide SP2016. Something about that is magic. It does subtle and "good bright" rather than subtle and grainy or full blown wash. The LX480 almost sounds pre-gated. I'm going to buy the SP2016 and wait on the LX480. For the late 80s and early 90s recordings that sounded cool, the stuff that didn't sound like what was on the radio, I have the Goodhertz Megaverb. I'll probably need to get the LX480 eventually when a client wants that sound but whatever.
I wasn't huge on the Transatlantic plate. It doesn't blend well. It got pretty metallic like a special effect. The IRs need to be encased in an algorithm of some sort with some well thought out modulation to be more usable. Kush/Relab Goldplate blended better and sounds like it is covered in cigarette and reefer smoke. drbill seems to be onto something about these algorithmic verbs being easier to use.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 17:27:13 GMT -6
viciousbliss there seems to be sort of disconnectedness in reverb algorithms not ported the original developer. The Relab Lexicon and UAD Lexicons and AMS have this tail disconnect, the relab to the point where a lot of setting variance beyond the algorithm doesn’t even matter that much soundwise to me, but the Eventide SP2016 and PSP 2445 do not have this “pre-gatedness.” Neither do other reverbs that might even sound bad like EpicVerb, bx_rooms, and FreeVerb. Relab’s own Sonsig Rev-A lacks it entirely too. It’s like sort of a vision mistake where they try to port it exactly to a different chipset and lose what made it work so well in the first place despite the primitive hardware. It’s the same with convolutions of old hardware units. They never work right and my noisy midiverb II integrates tails better despite it being a piece of shit.
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Post by viciousbliss on Dec 20, 2020 12:58:17 GMT -6
viciousbliss there seems to be sort of disconnectedness in reverb algorithms not ported the original developer. The Relab Lexicon and UAD Lexicons and AMS have this tail disconnect, the relab to the point where a lot of setting variance beyond the algorithm doesn’t even matter that much soundwise to me, but the Eventide SP2016 and PSP 2445 do not have this “pre-gatedness.” Neither do other reverbs that might even sound bad like EpicVerb, bx_rooms, and FreeVerb. Relab’s own Sonsig Rev-A lacks it entirely too. It’s like sort of a vision mistake where they try to port it exactly to a different chipset and lose what made it work so well in the first place despite the primitive hardware. It’s the same with convolutions of old hardware units. They never work right and my noisy midiverb II integrates tails better despite it being a piece of shit. Hey Dan, I was playing with the UAD 480 again some and wanted to finish that before writing again. I'm running these FX before Tapedesk without the console emu on and at 30 IPS with other settings at default followed by either BX SSL E or BX Focusrite after that at default settings almost all the time. So I'm already gating these a little bit. Sometimes I run these FX auxes into a vocal or instrument buss that also has a PA Lindell 80 channel on it. Lately I've been using Hornet Tape in default as the last thing on the master fader before rendering a mix too. What I was doing with the 480 on vocals last night was leaving the frequency cut off at FULL. A lot of times it felt like my vocal tracks were hitting a wall and didn't extend in the highs as much as I'd like. Setting the 224's bass slider higher up a few notches from the mid also made things a little better. I've still yet to check these mixes on speakers, but, I think these new 480 settings are gonna beat my previous ideas with other stuff. The mixes have the sort of ambience I was going for but with the 480 sticking to the sound much more than the other stuff. Occasionally I use the UAD RMX 16 to compliment my main stuff but I never use it as a main reverb. I've never had too much trouble integrating Transatlantic as long as I kept the volume down. It is a beast that has to be tamed for sure though. Maybe all the console gates and saturation are eating up the excess stuff. Too bad I don't have Sonsig on me. One of these days I'll get it. Have you tried VSR 24? I've got that Midiverb II plugin, I forget who makes it. I'm gonna try using the SP2016 some more and see what I come up with.
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Post by mitchkricun on Dec 21, 2020 6:14:11 GMT -6
If you don't have UAD, I'd probably try something from Relab like Sonsig or VSRS24. The latter still finds its way into my mixes. Never been a big fan of their 480. It might work for you though. I think it's been updated since I last messed around with it. Transatlantic Plate would be the first thing I'd try outside of UAD. See if you can get that to work for you, I've used it on some Metal stuff. Blackhole is something that sounds really cool in its promo videos but not something I've ended up using a lot. Another one to look at is Oxford Reverb. I'd buy it if Sonnox would drop their prices. Seems silly to me to be paying $165 or whatever for it nowadays. Seventh Heaven Pro could also do the job, I just don't think it's ideal for Metal. The 224 does something more than speed and sticking to the source, it adds a sort of liveliness and excitement. Sonsig and the NI attempt at the 224 sound didn't really live up to the UAD. I bought the Sonsig Rev-A. It was the best sounding algorithmic plugin reverb I've heard. It kicks the LX480's ass. The LX480 gui is convoluted and the sound reminds me too much of bad late 80s and 90s records. It's pretty subtle when not full blown wet. Sonsig can do subtle better and sounds much better wet. So does the Eventide SP2016. Something about that is magic. It does subtle and "good bright" rather than subtle and grainy or full blown wash. The LX480 almost sounds pre-gated. I'm going to buy the SP2016 and wait on the LX480. For the late 80s and early 90s recordings that sounded cool, the stuff that didn't sound like what was on the radio, I have the Goodhertz Megaverb. I'll probably need to get the LX480 eventually when a client wants that sound but whatever.
I wasn't huge on the Transatlantic plate. It doesn't blend well. It got pretty metallic like a special effect. The IRs need to be encased in an algorithm of some sort with some well thought out modulation to be more usable. Kush/Relab Goldplate blended better and sounds like it is covered in cigarette and reefer smoke. drbill seems to be onto something about these algorithmic verbs being easier to use. You and I must hear things similarly, because Relab Sonsig has become my go to and try as I may, I just can’t seem to connect with Transatlantic.
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