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Post by Ward on Oct 22, 2020 10:11:32 GMT -6
I spent hours with my new audioscape V3a last night and the night before. It's impossible to get a bad sound out of this unit! So, anyhow, I ran the Left and Right outs of my Digidesign 11 guitar preamp - I only use it for the Vox AC30 emulation which is spot-on (I have 5 vintage AC30s and all the right speakers). Left side went into a UA LA3a, right side went into the V3a. Set the same, it is virtually indistinguishable. There are slight differences but there are differences with each LA3a also. The treble bleed circuit is a little more effective on the V3a than the LA3a but release/recovery time might be a tiny bit slower. That happens depending on the T4 circuit or unit in optical compressor. I also ran it against my Mohog 76 - which is extremely LA3 like in behavior and tone. Again, impessed AF. It's on my long list of demo videos I must do some day! #ASAF you talking V3a or D3a here? cause you're saying D3a The D3a is based on the V3a (same thing only dual in a single rackspace), and I only have the audioscape V3a at the moment. Everything would apply the same. There isn't a V3a unique thread and it seemed silly to start one.
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Post by plinker on Jan 14, 2021 17:25:39 GMT -6
Does anyone know about the PSU for this? Is it external?? The image shows a multi-pin plug -- not what I was expecting given the Hyper Matter talk.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jan 14, 2021 18:38:44 GMT -6
Does anyone know about the PSU for this? Is it external?? The image shows a multi-pin plug -- not what I was expecting given the Hyper Matter talk. I believe it is external just like the Silver Bullet and the Chroma+. Filtering board inside the unit.
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Post by OtisGreying on Jan 14, 2021 23:19:37 GMT -6
Anyone with UREI LA3A experience/ owner of a real LA3A have any comments on this unit and how it sounds compared to the original?
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Post by Ward on Jan 15, 2021 8:48:17 GMT -6
Anyone with UREI LA3A experience/ owner of a real LA3A have any comments on this unit and how it sounds compared to the original? Yes. I have both and thought I already had done so. It is nearly impossible to tell the difference. Demo: I'll add it to my long list of things I have to do for this group.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jul 28, 2021 17:07:48 GMT -6
audioscape haven't seen this guy in a long time being built. Supply issues?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jul 29, 2021 9:18:30 GMT -6
Anyone with UREI LA3A experience/ owner of a real LA3A have any comments on this unit and how it sounds compared to the original? bgrotto sold his originals...
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Post by bgrotto on Jul 29, 2021 10:36:05 GMT -6
audioscape haven't seen this guy in a long time being built. Supply issues? I wrote a review and posted some a/b files. Check the reviews section here or do a search on gs.
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Post by audioscape on Jul 30, 2021 20:21:27 GMT -6
audioscape haven't seen this guy in a long time being built. Supply issues? ..not really! Just not QUITE as popular as the regular V3A; however, we can build them to order if you reach out to us on any platform you fancy 😍👌😎 As for the PSU - the D3A does use an external line unit that is plugged into the wall. It's easiest to think of the LTL HyperMatter™ PSU/Chassis as the BEST 500-series chassis currently being made; in terms of overall performance, noise, transient & frequency response, etc. Brad @ LTL has extensively tested MOST of the popular 500-chassis' out there; and with this knowledge; designed and developed the HyperMatter™ system ;-) To those who AREN'T into the 500 format yet and may be wondering which chassis to purchase out of the vast sea of options out there, - the top performers are (somewhat arguably - we're talking about subtleties here for the most part): Purple, BAE, API and the 11-slot CAPI DIY Chassis. Of course there are exceptions to every "rule" and with all due respect - we're certainly not knocking ANY company who makes a 500 chassis! At the end of the day, get what works for YOU and YOUR personal budget/needs! All of them will allow you to make music, have fun and let the positive vibes ROLLLLLL - and THIS should be the takeaway here !!! ✌ Thanks as always, for the LOVE y'all!!!! 😎
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Post by Blackdawg on Jul 30, 2021 22:12:55 GMT -6
audioscape haven't seen this guy in a long time being built. Supply issues? ..not really! Just not QUITE as popular as the regular V3A; however, we can build them to order if you reach out to us on any platform you fancy 😍👌😎 As for the PSU - the D3A does use an external line unit that is plugged into the wall. It's easiest to think of the LTL HyperMatter™ PSU/Chassis as the BEST 500-series chassis currently being made; in terms of overall performance, noise, transient & frequency response, etc. Brad @ LTL has extensively tested MOST of the popular 500-chassis' out there; and with this knowledge; designed and developed the HyperMatter™ system ;-) To those who AREN'T into the 500 format yet and may be wondering which chassis to purchase out of the vast sea of options out there, - the top performers are (somewhat arguably - we're talking about subtleties here for the most part): Purple, BAE, API and the 11-slot CAPI DIY Chassis. Of course there are exceptions to every "rule" and with all due respect - we're certainly not knocking ANY company who makes a 500 chassis! At the end of the day, get what works for YOU and YOUR personal budget/needs! All of them will allow you to make music, have fun and let the positive vibes ROLLLLLL - and THIS should be the takeaway here !!! ✌ Thanks as always, for the LOVE y'all!!!! 😎 That's fair. I have a vague recollection of them even staying in stock for a while. But good to know I could just order one. I'll keep that in mind!
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Post by locrain on Oct 14, 2021 10:58:56 GMT -6
..not really! Just not QUITE as popular as the regular V3A; however, we can build them to order if you reach out to us on any platform you fancy 😍👌😎 As for the PSU - the D3A does use an external line unit that is plugged into the wall. It's easiest to think of the LTL HyperMatter™ PSU/Chassis as the BEST 500-series chassis currently being made; in terms of overall performance, noise, transient & frequency response, etc. Brad @ LTL has extensively tested MOST of the popular 500-chassis' out there; and with this knowledge; designed and developed the HyperMatter™ system ;-) To those who AREN'T into the 500 format yet and may be wondering which chassis to purchase out of the vast sea of options out there, - the top performers are (somewhat arguably - we're talking about subtleties here for the most part): Purple, BAE, API and the 11-slot CAPI DIY Chassis. Of course there are exceptions to every "rule" and with all due respect - we're certainly not knocking ANY company who makes a 500 chassis! At the end of the day, get what works for YOU and YOUR personal budget/needs! All of them will allow you to make music, have fun and let the positive vibes ROLLLLLL - and THIS should be the takeaway here !!! ✌ Thanks as always, for the LOVE y'all!!!! 😎 That's fair. I have a vague recollection of them even staying in stock for a while. But good to know I could just order one. I'll keep that in mind! If you are having trouble getting an AS product, definitely reach out to Chris, he is a super nice guy, and went out of his way for me. He might not be able to help, but it is worth a shot, for sure. I was asking about 2 different products, and for one of them (EQP-A), he just said hopefully soon, but it is what it is right now, nothing he could do, but he was kind enough to reserve me a D3A out of the next batch, so I am pretty pumped, to say the least. Really glad I held off on getting the individual 500 series versions, I know this is that x2, but I am a fan of Brad as well, and think the PSU looks awesome. Anyway, Chris is the man, could not be nicer. AS rules.
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 14, 2021 11:05:06 GMT -6
Ah, the D is single 500 and the V dual19 inch rack ?
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Post by Ward on Oct 14, 2021 11:33:05 GMT -6
That's fair. I have a vague recollection of them even staying in stock for a while. But good to know I could just order one. I'll keep that in mind! If you are having trouble getting an AS product, definitely reach out to Chris, he is a super nice guy, and went out of his way for me. He might not be able to help, but it is worth a shot, for sure. I was asking about 2 different products, and for one of them (EQP-A), he just said hopefully soon, but it is what it is right now, nothing he could do, but he was kind enough to reserve me a D3A out of the next batch, so I am pretty pumped, to say the least. Really glad I held off on getting the individual 500 series versions, I know this is that x2, but I am a fan of Brad as well, and think the PSU looks awesome. Anyway, Chris is the man, could not be nicer. AS rules. V3a = single unit. V means 5 in roman numerals, so V for 500 series. 3a is from LA3s D3a = dual unit. Twin matched 3a's with a dedicated power supply and XLR connectors as opposed to those functions being handled by the 500 series chassis.
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Post by recordingengineer on Oct 14, 2021 16:43:18 GMT -6
Any sound differences?
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Post by notneeson on Oct 14, 2021 16:48:49 GMT -6
Almost certainly, since the 500 series will work off whatever PSU is on your lunchbox and the rack unit has LTL’s superlative PSU. What kind of differences matter is down to taste and expectations.
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Post by Blackdawg on Oct 14, 2021 17:06:00 GMT -6
And you get the super mono mode in the D3A, not that you can do that on some 500 chassis, mine have feed switches to build signal chains but not very convenient being on the back.
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Post by Ward on Oct 17, 2021 9:32:57 GMT -6
My V3a sounds almost identical to my vintage LA3a. Accommodations were made for it to work flawlessly in a properly powered API 500 series chassis. Using a weaker chassis might not deliver enough juice to ensure proper performance. That is the biggest issue I have had with the 500 architecture for a long time. I'm delighted with how everything works in the API8. I hear the same comments about jsteiger's 500 series chassis also.
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Post by drbill on Oct 17, 2021 10:16:42 GMT -6
Does anyone know about the PSU for this? Is it external?? The image shows a multi-pin plug -- not what I was expecting given the Hyper Matter talk. I don't have the D3a's, but I can comment in regards to the Hypermatter™ supply vs. normal 500 rack PSU's (Heritage, Radial, API, Purple, CAPI) supplies that I have owned. Of note, all my 500 supplies are PACKED full - this no doubt is a contributing factor in my observation(s). This is a power related observation only - and a bit of an OT aside.... When comparing Chroma + (Hypermatter™) vs Chroma's in 500 racks (Other than the power supplies, they have 100% identical boards, Opamps, transformers, components, etc.), the differences were not subtle to me. Power supplies matter. Great power supplies will open up your eyes (and ears). They are the essence of what our gear sounds like. From what Ward mentioned, it sounds like AS did something to bolster the 3a 500 series versions vs the dual units. Someday, when I get time, and the inclination, I'll get a HUUUUUuuuuuge console power supply and rig it to power all my 500 racks. I'm always happy with them "as is", and they all sound perfectly fine - until you put a modded or high end PS powering your units. Then....watch out. I've experienced exactly the same thing with many different LFAC's, tape machines, amplifiers, and other audio gear that have had their power supplies modded or replaced with high end units. Ralph Skelton @ Pacific Innovative is the guru for modded power supplies IME. YMMV - and it is my biased $0.02.
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Post by christophert on Oct 17, 2021 15:27:21 GMT -6
Not a tech here, but I have had past experience with my techs upgrading power supply's on console center sections, and various console power upgrades and the difference was major. Neve and QuadEights consoles - vast sonic improvements. I am just about to purchase 2 Neve R10's for my new studio build. Do the Neve PS's rate? Or should I go for the Purple Sweet 10's? Or Capi's - but unsure about the never ending shortage of parts
Any advice on these?
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Post by drbill on Oct 17, 2021 17:23:03 GMT -6
Purple or API 8 space. Or if DIY, or if needing max density of modules - the CAPI is great. I've got 4 of em. Wait....I've got 5 of em.
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 17, 2021 17:32:09 GMT -6
Seriously Dr. , you’ e got to post some studio gear porn shots!
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Post by Blackdawg on Oct 17, 2021 18:37:23 GMT -6
Seriously Dr. , you’ e got to post some studio gear porn shots! go to his instagram, some good ones there.
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Post by Blackdawg on Oct 17, 2021 18:38:43 GMT -6
Purple or API 8 space. Or if DIY, or if needing max density of modules - the CAPI is great. I've got 4 of em. Wait....I've got 5 of em. I've had bad experiences with the API racks actually. Oddly some modules(including API's own modules) won't seat all the way and cut in and out. Found that out the hard way when we realized there was no Kick mic in the last take..just pushed on the mic pre a bit and it was fine. But it was torqued all the way down, odd it won't seat right..
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Post by drbill on Oct 17, 2021 20:17:31 GMT -6
Seriously Dr. , you’ e got to post some studio gear porn shots! OK. I'll try to remember when I get a chance. Or like BD said - instagram.
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Post by christophert on Oct 17, 2021 23:32:37 GMT -6
Thanks DrBill - Capi rack it is ! Cheers
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