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Post by EmRR on Oct 2, 2020 8:20:50 GMT -6
Very detailed breakdown, worth a look. I didn’t spot any errors on first glance. Maybe one omission I’m not entirely sure about.
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Post by Ward on Oct 2, 2020 11:22:13 GMT -6
Mix have always been the top of the heap when it comes to journalism in our industry. Not surprised at finding a good article! I'll have a look, shortly.
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Post by chessparov on Oct 2, 2020 18:36:45 GMT -6
I'll take a look tonight. Ya know, afterward. Chris
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Post by Ward on Oct 2, 2020 19:08:34 GMT -6
I'll take a look tonight. Ya know, afterward. Chris That was rather forward of you
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 11:48:54 GMT -6
Will someone please link it?
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Post by EmRR on Oct 3, 2020 12:49:57 GMT -6
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Post by hadaja on Oct 3, 2020 14:10:45 GMT -6
Thats a really interesting article. I will have to take a look inside my vca comps and see what chips are inside. Thanks for this.
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Post by johneppstein on Oct 3, 2020 14:48:05 GMT -6
Mix have always been the top of the heap when it comes to journalism in our industry. Not surprised at finding a good article! I'll have a look, shortly. Er, Uh, the late, lamented Recording Engineer/Producer beat the pants off the more commerciaslly influenced Mix.
I used to (casually) know the guy behind Mix - same guy who did BAM (Bay Area Musician). I don't remember his name at the moment, but he used to visit all the music stores I worked in, drumming up business and schmoozing. Nice guy.
Miss BAM a lot - an early internet casualty. They did a lot for Bay Area bands....
EDIT: I see it remains in a online version, but it's not the same. And the publisher was Dennis Erokan.....
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Post by Ward on Oct 16, 2020 5:56:42 GMT -6
Works ferpectly. Pages 24-27. Many thanks.
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Post by timcampbell on Oct 16, 2020 7:17:43 GMT -6
I knew David Blackmer and worked with him a bit. Earthwork's hydroelectric company headquarters were a hoot. He used to personally clear debris from the turbine filters with a rake. Very sharp, interesting character.
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Post by Ward on Oct 16, 2020 9:25:30 GMT -6
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Post by ericn on Oct 16, 2020 9:32:24 GMT -6
Give the guys at Clair a shout I’ll bet they can cut a deal on a used one.
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Post by mrholmes on Oct 16, 2020 9:35:58 GMT -6
YOU MADE ME LAUGH... THANKS...
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Post by Guitar on Oct 16, 2020 9:55:20 GMT -6
I knew David Blackmer and worked with him a bit. Earthwork's hydroelectric company headquarters were a hoot. He used to personally clear debris from the turbine filters with a rake. Very sharp, interesting character. That's fascinating. I had always assumed those were two separate companies with the same name by chance. Really makes me pique to know it's the same mind behind them.
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Post by timcampbell on Oct 16, 2020 10:36:28 GMT -6
Yes David was fascinating. He didn't suffer fools lightly. If you wanted a conversation with him you'd better have something interesting to say. His interest in the Earthworks/microphone area was really all about his ideas about time domain.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 16, 2020 18:03:10 GMT -6
I looked at the article briefly. So, which DBX compressor is considered the Holy Grail, I'm confused about that.
Made me realize I miss my SOS subscription..
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Post by Michael O. on Oct 16, 2020 19:34:45 GMT -6
I looked at the article briefly. So, which DBX compressor is considered the Holy Grail, I'm confused about that. Made me realize I miss my SOS subscription.. The 160. Though I’d argue a few of their models are useful and worthy classics (161 is nearly the same but with different input/output circuitry, 165/a has its uses, 160x/xt are certainly usable, etc.), the 160 is probably the true “holy grail” of the dbx lineup.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 6:23:45 GMT -6
I’ve found out the hard way that the 266 and 166 aren’t good. The 160a is still cool but may have been discontinued by Samsung.
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Post by geoff738 on Oct 17, 2020 13:23:25 GMT -6
My 266 makes a nice doorstop. I’m not sure how much of the dbx lineage it shares though. I’ve never used their pro stuff.
It was my first compressor. Certainly didn’t get me excited about compression.
Cheers, Geoff
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Post by EmRR on Oct 17, 2020 14:14:40 GMT -6
YEah, any of the '66' models can be skipped.
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Post by Guitar on Oct 17, 2020 14:27:32 GMT -6
I had a 166A and I got kind of bored about it, didn't really stand out. Not bad, though, could be usable. I guess that's not a ringing endorsement, I sold it.
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Post by ericn on Oct 18, 2020 1:29:15 GMT -6
YEah, any of the '66' models can be skipped. I would completely agree if it wasn’t the first real “full featured “ comp that I really got to use. The 166 was the thing you looked for in a live rack for years, while not say an LA3, it was such a relief to fine one rather than a 3630. I think that was the thing about the old 166, they weren’t wow, or Yuch, it was ah. In your heart you new it would work, it just wasn’t sexy. Now the 266, if Harmons take on the 166 was how to do it cheap, the 266 was how to be cheaper than Behringer. They tookah and Mead it blah.
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Post by Ward on Oct 18, 2020 10:40:46 GMT -6
I often find that some gear that seemed good in the 90s has turned into doorstops and find it difficult to even give away to others,
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Post by sean on Oct 18, 2020 11:10:06 GMT -6
I’ll take all your Alesia MidiVerbs, SPX90’s, Rev 5’s, and Roland reverbs and delays
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Post by Michael O. on Oct 18, 2020 12:06:13 GMT -6
YEah, any of the '66' models can be skipped. I would completely agree if it wasn’t the first real “full featured “ comp that I really got to use. The 166 was the thing you looked for in a live rack for years, while not say an LA3, it was such a relief to fine one rather than a 3630. I think that was the thing about the old 166, they weren’t wow, or Yuch, it was ah. In your heart you new it would work, it just wasn’t sexy. Now the 266, if Harmons take on the 166 was how to do it cheap, the 266 was how to be cheaper than Behringer. They tookah and Mead it blah. This is an interesting insight. Was Symetrix gear common in venues’ rigs, or was that stuff relegated more to industrial installs? I ask because the Symetrix compressors are comparable to some of the ones in the dbx lineup, but are imo generally better sounding units than many of the lesser dbx units (especially the Symetrix comps with the Valley People/Allison vca fitted).
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