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Post by johneppstein on Sept 28, 2020 13:45:41 GMT -6
In many ways I think "the old boss" was actually better. You can't really make a living being in a band anymore unless you're already famous - and a lot of them are struggling. Songwriters - really good songwriters - are starving.
Ask JohnKenn what his royalty payments are like.
I had a deal for 15 years. Had No. 2, No. 15 and No. 20 songs (and many album cuts) and I can’t make a living as a songwriter anymore. That being said, I’m happier now writing (for no one), producing, mixing and make more than I did at the end of my publishing deals. The only negative with the songwriting is that if you’re not with a publisher, you’re not really in the game. ...so I started to look for another deal earlier this year, but there’s no point with all that’s going on right now. Publishers are on the brink of going under. I’ve had on-going conversations with a few publishers that I think can move the needle...and I can tell I’m not what they’re looking for...by that I mean, I’m not a sure-fire return on their investment. And THIS is the result of what’s happening in the industry and the article above. When there was a sure-fire way to make money - mechanical royalties - publishers could take chances. But now they need singles. It’s the only way to make money. So it’s absolutely less about the music than it’s ever been. If you are the artist’s cousin and co-writer and couldn’t write your way out of a paper sack, you’re most likely going to get a publishing deal. Because you’re in the camp. You have access. Because there’s so little money to go around in the pub/songwriting world, there ARE NO outside cuts. Ok, maybe the biggest artists have a song they love and cut it, but 98% of the time - even if the artist didn’t write it, follow the money. Usually the same publisher. This all happened because of streaming. Because of democratization making the the pond of music into the entire seven seas. Unless you have a million dollar marketing budget, you Will. Not. Get. Heard. Are there rarities that blow up? Sure. Maybe what - 5 a year? How many millions of artist are added to Spotify every year? It’s sad. Well said.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 28, 2020 14:57:19 GMT -6
I should add - it's different now than it used to be when melody and lyrics were considered more "important." It's easier now to get a good "production" - by that I mean, it's easier than ever for someone to sound "professional" just plinking away in their bedroom with Logic and a bunch of loops. Listen to a lot of pop and pop country. I'm totally generalizing, but a lot of songs start off with a little simplistic guitar riff (if there's any guitar at all) that any beginner could play and that's the theme. Then snaps/a beat come in and then the top line melody goes up an octave in the chorus. Done. Now - I'm not saying it's that simplistic or that easy...hell, I've heard songs done like that and thought they were pretty good...but there is a homogeny that is happening for a multitude of reasons.
I'm trying to remember the last song I heard a major 7 or 6/8 etc...Imagine someone writing "Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" or "Julia" or "Blackbird" or "Painted Black" or "One Of These Nights" or "Scenes from an Italian Restaurant" or someone that sounds like Neil Young or Michael Stipe or Annie Lennox or Sade or whatever...I'm not saying that I want things to go backwards, but some melody would be killer.
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Post by Michael O. on Sept 28, 2020 16:19:43 GMT -6
We’re all in the same boat here and for the most part facing the same sorts of problems, which is extremely disheartening because that boat is quickly sinking if not already sunk. But that’s the cost/risk of us working in what is ultimately a non-essential and monetarily shrinking industry. That isn’t to say my life would be half as rich, or even all the enjoyable at all, without listening to and creating music, but we’re not exactly providing sustenance, shelter, or healthcare. And in lean times such as the world is now facing, we’re some of the first on the chopping block.
As a studio owner operating in the United States in 2020 these are the main issues causing this problem, some directly observed (I do my own books and assist some colleagues with theirs), and some inferred, that I can identify:
1. Lack of affordable healthcare— This isn’t solely relegated to our industry, but is eating more Americans alive than perhaps anything else. This has always been the case for creatives in particular, but things have reached a fever-pitch. It’s hard enough as the owner of a small business to keep up with my own health care costs, and I truly don’t envy those who have to do the same for employees.
2. An out of control commercial real estate bubble— I’m one of the lucky ones that whoopsed into a space I own, but so many of my colleagues are having their lunch eaten by exorbitant rent prices. With covid, amongst other factors, there are more vacant commercial properties than ever, and yet prices don’t seem to be budging anytime soon because the land owners themselves have leveraged so much that they essentially must charge these prices to keep up with their own mortgage obligations. This is particularly true in more heavily-populated urban areas.
3. The economy in general— this is perhaps the biggest, and least surmountable issue. In particular, young people (18-35, and the below 18 crowd) are in an incredibly precarious and untenable situation, and unfortunately for us, those same young people historically account for the majority of revenue that our industry takes in. Less money for the artists means less money for the audio engineers, and so on.
4. Lack of demand— some may, as in the article, chalk this up to democratization of production means, but I think more accurately this is simply due to shifting, evolving tastes toward music styles that have different production requirements than past popular styles. Film scores, anachronistic big band and brass band music (of which, luckily, there is still quite a lot here in New Orleans), non-chamber or soloist classical musics, and proper drum productions will never be able to be recorded in someone’s garage or living room, but these things are largely not in vogue and do not account for the majority of recorded musics, even in my relatively unique market.
5. Inequitable distribution of revenue — this may be the other big one. The money is out there; I have friends who started streaming companies when such a thing was in its infancy, and they are doing undeniably well. Records may not sell as well as they once did, and live music may be sorely hurting, but these people are taking in boat loads of cash via subscriptions and advertisements. All of which is of course built upon the backs of the hard-working and (sometimes literally) starving artist.
These issues are nearly universally affecting all studio owners, audio engineers, musicians, and their support, and I’d argue are the main causes of the dire lack of opportunity with which we are now faced. Of course, I have a few significantly older friends and mentors that are still making a killing doing big budget, major label productions not unlike back in the day, but they established their careers and won their Grammies and whatnot before I was even born, and these people are in the extreme minority these days.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 28, 2020 18:21:28 GMT -6
My premiums went up 300% when the “Affordable” Healthcare thing passed. Praying that gets changed and we have some competition and choice.
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Post by johneppstein on Sept 28, 2020 20:44:15 GMT -6
That was an interesting read, but oh man, it gives off a real Parisian gallery old guard deriding the upstart impressionist painters kind of vibe. All of the logical fallacies aside, I think their premise that any half-rational professional is looking to the industry in 2020 for a stable, sustainable career, let alone to make it big, is patently flawed. Anyone who’s getting into this business with money as a main impetus has been ignoring the writing on the wall, though maybe it has dulled given it’s been scrawled there for a good thirty-odd years now. Speaking strictly from a recording/mixing engineer perspective, fewer a&r or manager-types in the control isn’t exactly an unappealing prospect... edit: I want to add that I think they’re spot on with it being a top down sort of issue at its root. While I don’t see the democratization on the production and publishing sides as an evil, I do believe how royalties are distributed (or really, not distributed) is nearly-criminally unjust, and is what’s causing the industry to be in a state of flux, thus creating the career vacuums that we’re now faced with. Intellectual property rights in general are being badly mishandled these days, at the cost of the artists and those with whom they work. I wish I had some sort of at all tenable solution to add, though. The old guard IS the record labels. They’re still raking in the money. Not exactly, I think. When I was young the biz was run primarily by MUSIC PEOPLE. Maybe they didn't play or engineer, but they LOVED MUSIC. Those people are mostly gone. Also many companies were run and owned by one or two people. These days most are owned by larger corporations and run by people who are interested in primarily money. Music - not so much.
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Post by johneppstein on Sept 28, 2020 21:00:14 GMT -6
4. Lack of demand— some may, as in the article, chalk this up to democratization of production means, but I think more accurately this is simply due to shifting, evolving tastes toward music styles that have different production requirements than past popular styles. Film scores, anachronistic big band and brass band music (of which, luckily, there is still quite a lot here in New Orleans), non-chamber or soloist classical musics, and proper drum productions will never be able to be recorded in someone’s garage or living room, but these things are largely not in vogue and do not account for the majority of recorded musics, even in my relatively unique market. I don't believe that for a minute. I think that the problem is ratherr lack of anything worth buying - and a lack of places to buy it if there was.
When was the last time you heard a new song that had you humming it as you walked down the street?
And the streaming behemoth has killed off the record shop in most places. It used to be that you could even buy records at the local supermarket. I remember buying Lightnin' Hopkins and Leadbelly there, on little off label companies. And although I haven't had the records for decades (Thanks a lot, Mom!*), the songs are still in my head.
If those people are truly your friends, why don't you talk to them about kicking down to the creators of their wealth? And to giving some people who aren't the commercial "names" a slice of the pie?
Yeah, I'm dreaming....
Yeah.
We've been lied to and robbed blind.
* - some of those records would be worth hundreds and hundreds of dollars now.
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Post by christopher on Sept 29, 2020 13:35:19 GMT -6
Thanks for sharing this John. It gives the reader a lot to think about. I had a sit down talk with myself in 2005 and tried to talk myself out of making any sort of devotion to music. Something inside just told me the industry would be in ruins and continue to pump out stuff that’s not my style until around the 2030’s to 2040’s. So my long term plan has been slowly get the tape machines, experience, and gear list going because in about 15 years I’ll be ready.
In the mean time, well I learned in 2010 I’d rather record demos than work warehouses. And what about the home recordist? They need as much help as they can get, so there was some usefulness there, and gave me a ton of experience. Now the top guys are filling that need for the home user with video subscriptions, as they too don’t want to work in warehouses. Apple is promoting their own software Logic as the one stop shop to fame and fortune. So it seems to be getting more and more bigger hands reaching for the last bits of fruit. What’s the end goal? Probably just use the phone mic and it samples your voice tone... then you sing and it auto tunes it all, totally synthetic voice but it sounds like 14 layers. After that, the whole music production will be 100% faked, totally disposable and a million times overdone.
The next chapter will be a return to human elements. Less fakeness, more reality. And we know that reality can sound terrible! Or it can sound magical.. and the gear REALLY matters when you need ugly reality to sound a little better. That’s my hope, the realism will make a strong comeback in the next 20 years. I always strive to keep as much imperfection as I can. It’s tough because I know it turns people off. I still like to hear Hendrix early stuff, and honestly it sounds brutally honest like a home recording at times. Anyway.. thats kind of the place I look towards.
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Post by drbill on Sept 30, 2020 9:23:59 GMT -6
The next chapter will be a return to human elements. Less fakeness, more reality. Actually, I think the next step is Artificial Intelligence. It's already making in-roads. The step AFTER AI will be the step you describe. Who knows how long it will take AI to burn out. It's cheap, disposable, and can be done in minutes instead of months. Kind of like a culmination of all that's popular right now. 2020 on Steroids. I hope you make it long enough for the human elements factor to kick back in. for sure I'll be long gone.
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Post by 79sg on Sept 30, 2020 10:41:57 GMT -6
I'd posit the step after AI is the end of humanity.
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Post by christopher on Sept 30, 2020 14:58:05 GMT -6
The next chapter will be a return to human elements. Less fakeness, more reality. Actually, I think the next step is Artificial Intelligence. It's already making in-roads. The step AFTER AI will be the step you describe. Who knows how long it will take AI to burn out. It's cheap, disposable, and can be done in minutes instead of months. Kind of like a culmination of all that's popular right now. 2020 on Steroids. I hope you make it long enough for the human elements factor to kick back in. for sure I'll be long gone. So true! I thought about it a little after posting and realized there’s a spot between, where AI is coming. It shouldn’t be be long until my kids hum a melody, choose a genre and the whole production will be there on a tic toc post. Then after that, since the EQ matching, drum maps and samples are all there, how long until you choose your backing musicians, and which album tone? Keith Moon, Miles Davis, Liberace, all supporting your hummed melody and lyrics about homework. After that., yeah I don’t know where the hell we will go. Hopefully it will finally be done..
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