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Post by Martin John Butler on Sept 14, 2020 17:15:09 GMT -6
Definitely works for me too. Slow Burn was magic. What a great band and arrangement on that song.
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Post by Ward on Sept 15, 2020 5:57:23 GMT -6
I kinda wonder if lordalvin might borrow/rent @jstieger's Dolly for the next Kacey Musgraves' record. Everything about Kacey is amazing, especially that voice. OMG, that voice . . . just melts me. There's a few things besides Kacey's voice that melts me. She sure aint hard to look at. But she can sang, too. And just like that, all I can think of is hayride. Never heard this before... |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 15, 2020 17:19:01 GMT -6
That's actually a pretty amazing recording...
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Post by Martin John Butler on Sept 15, 2020 18:31:50 GMT -6
You're right John. The bass part bugs me, but the arrangement and the sound staging of the vocals sounds fantastic. No auto-tune either..
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Post by hadaja on Jun 11, 2022 19:52:23 GMT -6
Are we getting an updated shootout or a new one with the new H251?
Just wishful thinking maybe?
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Post by Ward on Jun 13, 2022 5:56:59 GMT -6
Are we getting an updated shootout or a new one with the new H251? Just wishful thinking maybe? The only mics I trust as much as my Neumanns come from Heiserman. I have incredibly confidence in wave tskguy and mdmitch2 to deliver a microphone as good as the best of what rolled off the AKG assembly line in ~1960 |
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Post by Vincent R. on Oct 16, 2022 6:19:18 GMT -6
Just stumbled across this nice shootout.
Upton 251 vs Telefunken ELA M 251 with AC701K
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Post by crillemannen on Oct 16, 2022 7:53:49 GMT -6
I'm not a fan of the lowmids of the Upton that's my biggest complaint also when I demoed it myself. I also had the opportunity to try out an original E and the airy quality neither Bock or Upton nailed. It feels most clones either accentuate the original quality or thinns them out. I'm thinking like Upton=bloated and WA=thinner. A good original 251 really is something special. Wish I could find one cheap 🤣
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Post by Chad on Oct 16, 2022 8:21:21 GMT -6
Just stumbled across this nice shootout. Upton 251 vs Telefunken ELA M 251 with AC701K Vincent, thanks. I found this myself a couple of weeks ago. I felt like the differences between the two were far too subtle to care, while casually listening in my car and AirPods. |
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Post by tkaitkai on Oct 16, 2022 9:11:26 GMT -6
Just stumbled across this nice shootout. Upton 251 vs Telefunken ELA M 251 with AC701K That's actually a really cool video. I'm a sucker for the Tele 251 (and 47) — I do think it sounds better here, but not by much. The Upton is still excellent and sounds exactly as I would expect it to.
I wonder how much of it boils down to tube choice. Putting a 12AT7 in my Upton made a noticeable improvement over the stock tube, which already sounded great.
Anyone want to lend me an AC701K?  |
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Post by wiz on Oct 16, 2022 17:43:31 GMT -6
Just stumbled across this nice shootout. Upton 251 vs Telefunken ELA M 251 with AC701K Why would you have so much background noise going on? |
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Post by ab101 on Oct 16, 2022 20:36:24 GMT -6
Just stumbled across this nice shootout. Upton 251 vs Telefunken ELA M 251 with AC701K That's actually a really cool video. I'm a sucker for the Tele 251 (and 47) — I do think it sounds better here, but not by much. The Upton is still excellent and sounds exactly as I would expect it to.
I wonder how much of it boils down to tube choice. Putting a 12AT7 in my Upton made a noticeable improvement over the stock tube, which already sounded great.
Anyone want to lend me an AC701K? Yes - tube choices make a difference. Odds are the Upton in the video had Upton's - Electro-Harmonix tube. I like Dallas a lot and he is a genius to make this mic, but I honestly do not like that tube. So, I tried various AT7s (I really like the NOS Mullards) and various GE five star 6072s, including the 6072 and 6072a. I have settled on the 1950s 6072. Tubes do make a difference in the 251, which frankly makes them more fun. And as I have said, Dallas does tune the capsule to taste, so it is hard to compare. The fact that it is this close to the original, is a good thing for the Upton. |
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Post by spindrift on Oct 17, 2022 5:45:22 GMT -6
That's actually a really cool video. I'm a sucker for the Tele 251 (and 47) — I do think it sounds better here, but not by much. The Upton is still excellent and sounds exactly as I would expect it to.
I wonder how much of it boils down to tube choice. Putting a 12AT7 in my Upton made a noticeable improvement over the stock tube, which already sounded great.
Anyone want to lend me an AC701K? Yes - tube choices make a difference. Odds are the Upton in the video had Upton's - Electro-Harmonix tube. I like Dallas a lot and he is a genius to make this mic, but I honestly do not like that tube. So, I tried various AT7s (I really like the NOS Mullards) and various GE five star 6072s, including the 6072 and 6072a. I have settled on the 1950s 6072. Tubes do make a difference in the 251, which frankly makes them more fun. And as I have said, Dallas does tune the capsule to taste, so it is hard to compare. The fact that it is this close to the original, is a good thing for the Upton. I wish people would be more specific about what exact mic they’re demo’ing. Is this an original vintage Telefunken 251 or the copy mic made by the Telefunken USA company who bought the name? |
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Post by tkaitkai on Oct 17, 2022 10:11:42 GMT -6
spindriftMy guess is it’s the Tele USA. The PSU doesn’t look like the original, and in the close-up shots, it looks maybe just a tad too pristine to be a vintage mic. To me, anyway. I also vaguely recall reading about Tele USA having a brief run of 251s outfitted with AC701s? I could be wrong though.
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Post by Vincent R. on Oct 17, 2022 12:15:40 GMT -6
spindrift My guess is it’s the Tele USA. The PSU doesn’t look like the original, and in the close-up shots, it looks maybe just a tad too pristine to be a vintage mic. To me, anyway. I also vaguely recall reading about Tele USA having a brief run of 251s outfitted with AC701s? I could be wrong though. That was my thought as well. I asked on YouTube which it is. I'll let everyone know if someone answers. |
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Post by teejay on Oct 17, 2022 14:44:39 GMT -6
Just stumbled across this nice shootout. Upton 251 vs Telefunken ELA M 251 with AC701K Why would you have so much background noise going on? My thoughts exactly. Reminds me of the person sitting behind me in the movie theatre eating what they brought from home...bag crackling in my ear through half the movie...totally distracting me from being able to concentrate and enjoy. Which, incidently, is why I refuse to go to movie theatres anymore. I'm a magnet for those people. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 17, 2022 18:21:19 GMT -6
spindriftMy guess is it’s the Tele USA. The PSU doesn’t look like the original, and in the close-up shots, it looks maybe just a tad too pristine to be a vintage mic. To me, anyway. I also vaguely recall reading about Tele USA having a brief run of 251s outfitted with AC701s? I could be wrong though. They did. But they also had the vintage CK-12 capsule too. That was over a decade ago though. |
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Post by wiz on Oct 17, 2022 20:01:58 GMT -6
Great... now I am jonesing for a 251
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